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All right, so as we always like

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to do, we start off with the sad
news.

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Actor Eric William Dane died
recently from ALS, which is a

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nerve destroying disease.
While Eric was in such films and

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TV shows as X-Men, The Last
Stand, Open Water, 2 Adrift,

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Marley and Me, Bad Boys, Ride or
Die, Gideon's Crossing, The

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Original Charm, The Last Ship
and Euphoria, just name it a

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few, was perhaps best known for
his portrayal of Doctor Mark

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Sloan in 139 episodes of Grey's
Anatomy from 2006 to 2012, a

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role which he reprised in 2021.
And for me personally, for the

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13 episodes of the series
Countdown, which he played

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Special Agent Nathan Blythe, who
was the guy in charge of the

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task force.
I was actually, I just saw that

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probably like a few months back.
It was a brand new show.

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The show took a break between
the first.

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It was one season, but it took a
break between the season.

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And what was weird is that if
you were paying attention,

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Eric's character stopped using
his arm.

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I think it was his right arm.
It was just if you if you watch

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it now, you can clearly see how
he was losing the ability to use

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his arm over the course of the
show.

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And towards the end, like they
tried their best to hide it.

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But you can tell that there was
something off.

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I noticed that there was
something off, but I couldn't

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tell what.
It was the little homework on

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and I found out that he had the
disease and now he's gone.

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It's a great show And it's, you
know, I'm sorry that he's he'll

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be he'll be missed.
He was 53 years old.

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So moving on.
So the next bit of sad news,

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Actor David James.
Actor James David van der Beek

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also died recently from cancer
while James was in a slew of

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movies and TV shows.
James is perhaps best known for

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his role of Dawson Leary on 122
episodes of the series Dawson

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Creek, which ran on a WB network
from 1998 to 2003.

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He was 48.
James is just one of those guys

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that's just been around.
I never actually watched

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Dawson's Creek, but I was aware
of him.

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He was extremely popular.
I hear is a very nice guy.

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I see him popping up all over in
TV shows and movies and just him

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being James Van Der Beek.
And it's crazy that he's younger

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than me.
So he was just 48 years old.

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So moving on for some more sad
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Actor Thomas Patrick Newman also
died recently.

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As of this recording, no cause
of death has been announced.

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While Thomas was in a handful of
movies and TV shows, he is

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perhaps best known for his roles
of Frankenstein's monster.

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In a 1987 film The Monster
Squad.

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It was Kane which was the bad
guy in RoboCop Part 2.

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Now he played referen Nathal
Nathaniel Cole in 17 episodes of

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the series Hell on Wheels and
The Pallid Man in 18 episodes of

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the 12 Monkey series, which ran
from 2015 to 2018.

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He was 74.
I don't think I've actually seen

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the Monster Squad.
I know I saw RoboCop, so I

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remember him from that, but I
can't think of anything else I

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remember seeing him in.
So moving on for the last bit of

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sad news, Actor and filmmaker
Robert Selden Duvall.

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No one professionally is just.
Robert Duvall also died

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recently.
Also, no cause of death has been

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announced.
Robert was in such films as To

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Kill a Mockingbird, True Grit,
Mash, the movie THX 1138, The

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Godfather and a sequel by
Godfather by Two, Apocalypse

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Now, True Confessions, Natural
Colors which I loved that movie.

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Musies, Falling Down, Geronimo,
an American Legend, The Paper

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Sling Blade, Deep Impact, Gone
in 60 Seconds, The 6th Day,

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Stalin and Wild Horses which he
also wrote and directed.

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Just name a few.
He was 95.

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Robert, once again, was one of
those guys.

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I was just always around.
I really didn't see much of his

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work.
I saw one or two of the, the

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movies I mentioned and of course
a few others.

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But he was just always there and
he was always around.

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And he was just like the, the,
the, the tough guy, you know, it

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was kind of weird, but he was
95.

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So that is it for the sad news.
We're going to take a quick

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break and we'll be right back
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So moving on for the United.
Sad news from the That's a lot

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The film Werthering Heights has
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domestic docs office, pulling in
$32.8 million in ticket sales

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and its first week of release,
beating out the new animated

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film Goat which came in a number
two spot making $27.2 million

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also in his first week of
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For those of you keeping track,
Avatar is still the highest

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grossing some of this year with
$397.2 million, followed by

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Utopia Part 2 with 400, $121
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Now as I've been mentioning,
because both of these movies

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came out last year, the numbers
are slightly Askew as this year

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Avatar has made $146.8 million
and Zootopia raked in $83.1

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million.
The first film that came out

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this year, 2026, and is that the
highest grossing film of this

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year that has come out this year
is at #3 with $69.4 million.

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And that movie is The Housemaid.
I still have yet to see Avatar.

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I saw Zootopia Part 2.
It was entertaining.

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I would say that it wasn't as
good as the first one, but you

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know, what do you got to do?
The chemistry of the two leads

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is there and I think maybe it
was a slightly bloated, but it

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was still a pretty fun movie to
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I saw The Housemaid, I think I
mentioned it before, but I liked

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the movie.
I enjoyed it.

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It's not well, I mean, I haven't
seen that much as of yet.

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So I would guess as of right
now, it's probably one of the

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best things I've seen this year,
but it's probably not going to

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hold up.
It wasn't like, Oh my God, it

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was amazing.
It just had a really good twist

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to it.
And I like the fact that, as I

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mentioned before, it feels like
the movie Barbarian where you

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think you're going to go watch
one movie and then you wind up

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seeing a completely different
movie.

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And maybe if I have time, I'll
watch it for a second time, but

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I'm very the backlog with all
the stuff that I need to see.

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But if I do go back and watch it
again, I will be able to see it

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through a different eye because
of the of the twist.

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It's actually funny.
It reminds me of the film The

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Orphan just off the top of my
head that was marketed as this

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movie has a big surprise twist,
super surprise twist, big twist,

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gonna be a big twist.
So going into the movie, I was

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looking for A twist and I
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pretty close.
But in this situation, I had no

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idea what I was getting into.
I just knew that it was a

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popular movie.
It had the two female leads of

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both, which I I like Amanda
Seyfried, and I hadn't really

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seen too much of Sidney Sweeney
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that's a whole other story.
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chance.
I wasn't a fan of Paul Feig

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because I didn't think the
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good, but I gave it a chance.
I figured I would watch it and I

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was pleasantly surprised.
So I'm wondering if I had known

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what the twist was, what I have
been able to predict it, or if I

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would have watched it at all.
But anyway, that is it for the

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news.
So with that, we're going to

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take another break and we'll be
back with more.

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It came from the.
Radio, Everybody is Todd

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McFarlane of the record setting
Spawn comic series, and if

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you're looking for any kind of
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creators, about entertainment,
about all that good stuff you go

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to, it came from the radio,
you're listening to the right

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spot.
Now back to our show.

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You are listening to a chamber
on the radio.

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I am with Scott Cranach now.
I interviewed Scott.

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I'm going to say it feels like 2
years ago, but I didn't look.

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So maybe it was one year ago.
Maybe it just feels like so long

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because I missed him.
I don't know.

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But we talked about his last
book.

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Well, last time we talked about
his book Amen, which was

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designed in the fashion of Man
magazine.

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It supposedly made my
stepbrother cry.

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So one of the villains is in.
It is called Honnold Dumpster.

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So whether you love or hate
Trump, that's pretty witty.

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It's pretty, pretty, pretty,
pretty witty.

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So welcome back, Scott.
And now he's producing.

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You're producing A satirical
book about bowling.

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So welcome back.
Thank you.

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It's good to be back.
Yeah.

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It's a fictional history of
women's bowling.

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Or is it fictional?
But it's going to be basically

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how bowling completely changed
the entire world that we live in

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and and shape the world that
we're in right now.

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Right, right.
Well, Sarge, been a crazy intro.

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It has been a wild day already.
It's not.

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It's like 1:20 PM.
Oh my God, it's like I've been

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put in a blender.
So this bowling thing now, why

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bowling?
Why not pickleball?

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Why not tennis?
Why not shuffleboard?

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Or why not checkers?
Bowling, because I grew up

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bowling.
I'm from Cleveland, as you know,

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and bowling is huge.
It's huge in New York too.

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But I grew up bowling out of a
league and, you know, it's just

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kind of cheesy.
It's just kind of a vintage

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sport.
It's kind of cheesy in a way.

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Like the movies Big Lebowski and
Kingpin.

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Like it's, I don't know, there's
something about bowling that I

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don't know.
I felt it would be a good

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subject and a good vehicle to,
you know, talk about just silly

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world history.
Also bring in current events,

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current issues.
You know how how bullying has

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helped change that.
But I mean, it really hasn't.

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But you can bring in these
issues and use bullying as a

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vehicle, but I don't know, it's
just going to be different.

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Yeah, yeah, Well, from what I've
seen, I thought was really fun

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and I'll be contributing a piece
about the health ramifications

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and side effects, but really the
benefits, the health benefits

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that bowling can bring you.
And maybe it'll be partially

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true, which it will, and maybe
it'll be part satire.

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We'll find out.
We'll see.

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I'm going to write soon.
I guess I got to April right.

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April first.
Well, also don't forget and you

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have another homework assignment
about how bowling helped women

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gain freedom in the Middle East.
Right.

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Because your friend shot for
this book.

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And so that's where, you know,
the fictional history of women's

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bowling.
Bowling didn't give women

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freedom in the Middle East.
Bowling didn't help the civil

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rights movement.
Bowling didn't help the LGBTQ

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community.
But maybe it did in this book.

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Maybe it did.
Maybe it did.

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Oh, I have.
I have a LGBTQ friend, I'm not

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going to mention who it is, and
I'd say bowling really did help

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him a lot and I bet you I could
even get a quote from him to say

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how bowling has helped his life.
I actually can guarantee it.

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You know what?
Well, maybe this could go in

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your essay as a doctor.
And we?

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Talked about this before.
Yeah, no.

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Well, you know, I'm full of it
for better, for worse, but.

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And then we have Maheen Lemon,
who did the photo shoot.

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So basically, you know, giving
women in Pakistan Stan basically

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giving them freedom, you know,
the feminization or helping them

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be feminists.
I bet she she has some real life

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quotes about how it's empowered
her for real.

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So even though it's the satire
book, there's a lot of truth to

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it.
Right, yeah, it's going to be an

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interesting mix and like the
other book, like Amen, it's

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going to be Mad magazine
inspired because I grew up

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reading maths.
So a lot of different comic

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artists, a lot of well known
comic artists.

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Well, I'm surprised or wanted to
be involved.

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Like people love this idea
because I just think I think

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it's so different and weird.
Yeah, Yeah.

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Well, I guess it's fun.
So, so Speaking of what's going

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to be in it, what's what's going
in this?

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Who's contributing to it?
What type of?

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Art forms.
A lot of comic art like Gary

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Dumb who did American Splendor
and is another fellow

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Clevelander, he's doing a story.
Gideon Kendall who is a actual

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artist for MAD and done a bunch
of books, he's doing a story.

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Bob Hall who is the Co creator
of West Coast Avengers, he's

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doing a story.
Dennis Kitchen is doing a page

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or two.
My photography, like weird kind

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of fake bowling ads with naked
women, like how in the history

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of women's bowling, you know,
men started trying to sexualize

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it.
And I took photos and put them

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in with these old ads.
So they look like very kind of

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not demeaning, but it's trying
to sexualize the sport.

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So there's going to be a section
on that.

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Essays like some Keith Lockhart
who did some horror films.

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He's writing a short story,
poetry, a screen, a play about

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bowling, like all this fictional
stuff.

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But it's like how bowling just
was so influential.

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Like, yeah, it's going to, it's,
there's going to be a lot in it.

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I hope I don't screw it up.
And I hope, I hope I arrange it

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well.
And it flows, flows good.

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I think you're going.
To do a good job.

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I, I have faith in you.
I think it's going to be great

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because sometimes I contribute
to things that I know are going

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to be horrible because to me
that's entertaining.

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It's great.
And then I, I contribute to

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things or part of things that I
know are going to be wonderful.

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So to me, I'm happy either way.
But I will say from my heart of

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hearts, as they say, I have a
good feeling.

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I think this is going to be
quality.

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And I think people who are
professionals are going to see

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this like, wow, this is a really
professional and funny

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production.
That's just what I predict.

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I think that's going to happen.
I think, I think so.

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I hope so because like, yeah,
you're involved.

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The people involved are so
incredibly talented and so

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diverse.
Like your articles will be some

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of the photos that were shot in
the dentist's office.

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I mean, it's just, it's going to
be.

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Yeah, it's.
I think it's something for

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everybody, to be honest.
I.

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Think so?
I think so.

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The true test will be to show my
mom who has the attention span

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of a family, so if she's
interested.

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Then you got her.
Because she says everything is

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boring.
That's boring, that's boring.

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If you don't hook her with in
like 3 seconds, you're out.

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So she's like my test to see if
something's interesting.

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However, however, she reads a
lot of really boring books, so

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there's also.
That run English.

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I couldn't believe that we were
in contact, but I interviewed

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him and it turns out he's a
really, really well known St.

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artist.
They call him the what is it the

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God, the godfather of street
art.

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He was in Banksy's film.
He has a studio in New York,

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does these worldwide exhibitions
books.

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Anyway, he let me interview him
and and one of his paintings,

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which is about bowling is going
to be the cover for this book.

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And he grew up bowling and
working at a bowling alley.

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So it's just like everything is
clicking.

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Like you said, everything's
clicking and and it should be a

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really, really interesting,
really interesting book.

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So this book is more of a
compilation.

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I wouldn't say an an anthology,
but it's a bunch of other people

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contributing.
Where's your past work?

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I don't think it's like that.
So as a producer, what are some

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of like the difficulties and
benefits of making this dealing

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with people like me in New York
on different time zones and, you

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know, different people who
communicate different ways and

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got to deal with different
personalities.

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Is is it or is it better than
writing your own book just by

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yourself?
Or is it annoying?

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Like, how's that been?
Well, I guess honestly, I think

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it's better because I don't
know, I'm, I'm a horrible self

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promoter.
I think when you have more

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people, you have so many, I
think more talented people than

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myself.
And you're getting all their

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work.
And the challenge is to blend it

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into one story to to blend all
this different stuff so it flows

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well.
Yeah.

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Most of my previous books, like
the two Cleveland books, Amen,

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were with a bunch of artists.
And it's like herding cats

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dealing with artists, as you
know.

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I mean, as we're both artists,
we could be royal pains in the

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right.
So that's difficult.

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And keeping everything straight
and dealing with people that are

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either just needy, needy people,
you know.

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Oh, OK.
And I think that's the challenge

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is like herding cats.
Yeah.

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But I think the end, I think
it's worth it at the end because

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you have such a diverse amount
of work.

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And so that's always been my
challenge, yeah.

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Now, what are some things about
bowling that you learned and you

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learn anything about bowling
while doing this I'm.

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Kind of a bowling nerd, so I
kind of knew a lot already.

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I knew, but I got at this
auction these old women's

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bowling magazines from the 50s
and 60s.

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And so I read them and it was,
it was like going back in time.

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It was really neat.
They had all the membership

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numbers from like, say, Chicago,
Cleveland, Pittsburgh, all over

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the United States.
And I guess I didn't realize how

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big bowling was because it said
how many members.

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Like Chicago had 2 million
bowling people registered in

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bowling leagues back in the 50s,
like 2.

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Like a lot.
Like it was huge.

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My God, that's a lot of balls.
That's a lot of balls.

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Yeah, yeah, it was.
So I guess I didn't know the

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scope of how big bowling once
was, I mean.

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Yeah, I had no idea.
So I'm sure I'll learn

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something.
But again, even though this is

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satire, I feel like there's
going to end up being a lot of

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truth because sometimes, a lot
of times when I make jokes, it's

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like, oh, no, that's actually
true.

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But I I meant it as a joke.
And it's like, I actually know

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that's actually the truth.
So, you know.

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Yeah.
And as far as you?

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Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
No, no, you go, you go.

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I did learn.
So one of the things towards the

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end of the book and of course me
because, you know, I do a lot of

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creepy dark art.
Of course there has to be a dark

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side to this book.
There were one of the writers

447
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,280
who maybe he was the one that
does the horror films.

448
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:32,040
He's writing a true story of
actual murders that were

449
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,640
committed by women using
bullying related items.

450
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,200
Oh wow.
And then another artist, Pat

451
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,120
Moriarty from Seattle, who's
done album covers, he's done all

452
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:50,480
kinds of amazing art.
He's doing the fake mug shots

453
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,600
for these murderers so I did not
know there are actual murders

454
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,760
committed.
Like three of them I think he

455
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,440
found.
Three, can you can you give us a

456
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,080
clue?
I don't, I don't know any more

457
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,960
than that.
I haven't, I haven't seen the

458
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,240
draft.
I can see like a pin knocking

459
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,200
some of the pin or like throwing
a ball because like one of my

460
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,240
fantasies which I fantasize
about doing this to like two

461
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,080
people.
Sorry, I have a violin mind

462
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,080
sometimes, but I haven't
actually murdered anyone.

463
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,440
But if I do the torture scene or
when I do the torture scene,

464
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,280
it's going to.
Either.

465
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,440
Or or both.
It'll be two separate or it'll

466
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560
be one of the other.
The middle of the street or

467
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,040
grocery aisle that's like lit
and fluorescent lights.

468
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,040
You have you cover someone in
food items.

469
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,960
So it's like a bunch of junk
food items or and you have a

470
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,680
bunch of people throw junk food
items at the person on the

471
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,000
floor.
This would be someone who really

472
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,720
deserved it.
Like I'm talking like they hurt

473
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,040
like 100 people.
You know, this is not like me

474
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,760
just being a violent weirdo.
I have some people in mind and

475
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,000
you throw the junk food items at
them, right?

476
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,760
And then one of them, I'd be
stomping on their face the Santa

477
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,920
Claus and saying don't F with
Christmas.

478
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,880
But there's also gonna be a
bunch of wild animals or just

479
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,480
cats and dogs released when
they're covered in like Maple

480
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,320
syrup and junk food.
So that would be fun.

481
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,680
But you gave me an idea.
I would take a giant bowling

482
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,120
ball and throw it at them right
before the Wildcats and dogs

483
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,240
come out and eat them alive
basically 'cause they'll be like

484
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,120
dipped in hot sauce and, you
know, all the stuff that cats

485
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,160
like.
Well, maybe syrup, chocolate

486
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,320
syrup.
I don't know if cats like hot

487
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:21,840
sauce.
I was.

488
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,560
I was dumb.
I'm a little tired.

489
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,360
Anyway, back to you.
I'm really.

490
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,120
Proud I could contribute to your
murder fantasy.

491
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,360
Oh yeah, no, now I'm going to
add a bowling ball.

492
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,760
It was straight up food and a
little mafia antics, but I like,

493
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,240
I like to throw in the bowling
ball.

494
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,440
That's really fun.
So anyway, now what?

495
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,760
What is it that you love about
satire?

496
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,680
I think, well, right now with
everything going on, I think we

497
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,920
need to laugh as much as
possible.

498
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,360
But growing up, I think mad, the
more I think about it, mad has

499
00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:01,640
had a huge influence on, I don't
know, just not my art or not

500
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,200
what I'd like to create, But me
personally, just kind of joking

501
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:11,120
around and I, just, me and my
buddy went to the, I did a

502
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:14,440
oddities convention 2 weekends
ago in Cincinnati and the

503
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,080
Cincinnati Art Museum had a
exhibit just about MAD.

504
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,720
So it was perfect because Matt
and I grew up reading MAD.

505
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,640
So he went.
And I mean, it's great art one,

506
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,440
but just just the talent and,
and what they were saying, what

507
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,240
they were conveying in the art,
like they were, you know, they

508
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,720
were ahead of the time in terms
of being political and fighting

509
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,680
for certain things that are
common now.

510
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,800
But back in the 50s, sixties,
70s, you know, they were, they

511
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,680
paved the way for a lot of
stuff.

512
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,280
Yeah.
Mad was in the 50s too.

513
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,720
I think that's when it started.
Yeah.

514
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:51,600
Wow.
OK.

515
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,080
I had no idea it.
Was that far back?

516
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,480
Wow, wow, you really know your
stuff.

517
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,160
So what's which years now?
Oh yeah, more mad.

518
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,440
No, no, no, that's it.
That's I mean, but I think

519
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,120
that's and that's a big
influence on why I like to kind

520
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,720
of create a stuff with a bunch
of different types of art,

521
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,720
different styles, because that's
reminds me of MAD.

522
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,960
Yeah, I like satire because I
just feel like there's so many

523
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,920
ridiculous things almost every
day.

524
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,800
I mean, just some of the last
text messages I got regarding a

525
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,200
shoot are just like, are you
joking me?

526
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,280
Are you joking me?
So it's like, if you're going to

527
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,800
act like clowns, then I'm going
to treat you like a joke.

528
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,200
And that's how I live my life.
I can't there's it only makes

529
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,120
sense to treat this world like a
joke, so.

530
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,320
Right, all right.
And it helps, you know, it's off

531
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,640
like, like, yeah.
Oh, it makes you so mad.

532
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Like, you see this, You see
that?

533
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,640
And instead of mad, you just
like, oh, my God, You just like,

534
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,120
I don't know.
OK.

535
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,200
Can I say two things that annoy
me, please?

536
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,800
Oh, my God.
Even though we we, we've known

537
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,120
each other enough that we
already know, we're kind of both

538
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,080
quirky.
Yeah, I don't know why this.

539
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,520
I don't know why this annoys me,
but everybody freaking wears

540
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,800
Under Armour.
Everybody.

541
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,960
Whenever I see Under Armour, I'm
like, it drives me nuts.

542
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,720
I know that.
Really.

543
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,080
Yeah.
But it's just like everybody's

544
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,920
decked out Under Armour,
everything.

545
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,480
It's just like, Oh my God.
What is that the thing in Ohio?

546
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,640
It's the thing in the world now
you're going to notice it.

547
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,000
Now you're going.
To notice he goes, Oh my God,

548
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,040
doesn't anybody?
So that annoys me.

549
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,200
And then, OK, I don't think this
is just an Ohio thing.

550
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,320
I think it's everywhere.
Uh huh.

551
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000
But the new trend?
If you have a Jeep, you'll put

552
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,560
all those stupid rubber ducks on
it.

553
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,360
What?
I don't see this either.

554
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,360
You're going to see that too.
Wait, what about Stanley cups?

555
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,720
My dad's girlfriend asked me
about Stanley Cups yesterday.

556
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,920
The only reason I had this is
because I left.

557
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,960
It's my big 711 thing that I had
for years that was peeling and a

558
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,440
mess.
I lost it somewhere.

559
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,120
So that's why I have a Stanley
Cup.

560
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,440
But that's a big trend.
Every girl at Equina has them.

561
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,480
Every girl that comes into the
dental office.

562
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,680
My dad's girlfriend says I don't
understand that.

563
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,600
She's not on social media.
She's like, what's with this

564
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,240
Stanley Cup?
I'm like, it's just a cup.

565
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,000
It holds a lot of liquid.
I like, I've been doing this my

566
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,200
whole, you know, forever.
I can't wait till the next time

567
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,080
you're out driving and you're
going to see AG and you're going

568
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,240
to be like, why do they have all
these stupid ducks on it?

569
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,480
Everybody does it.
And why?

570
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,960
I don't know.
I guess it's it's it's the sheet

571
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,960
mentality that annoys me so.
Yeah.

572
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,360
We went way off track, but
instead of getting mad about it,

573
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,120
why should I get mad?
It's so stupid.

574
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,440
But yeah, that's what satire is.
You know, you just kind of, yes,

575
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,560
whatever.
Whatever floats your boat, man.

576
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,280
You know what's fun?
Well, first of all, one of my

577
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,080
mottos in life, you know, is
basically like a lot of people

578
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,840
give you crappy, you know,
crappy offers and, and, and some

579
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,080
of the offers are great.
So you do it.

580
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,440
And then other things like Nah,
not I really want to do that,

581
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,920
but you can do a counter offer
and then a lot of people won't

582
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,360
give me material.
So I can get mad and I can block

583
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,680
someone or whatever, but I
don't, I don't really care.

584
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,560
So instead I have material.
So here's one from today.

585
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,320
I had a director offer offer to
send me a picture of his

586
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,240
testicles, which I don't want to
see.

587
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,920
I figure, oh, you know what, I
had this whole Hailey Weinstein,

588
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400
producer from Hell series, which
I'm going to do eventually,

589
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,600
which is all based on true
stories of someone being crazy

590
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160
on set casting.
You know, it's all, I have

591
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,520
enough true stories.
I don't really need to make

592
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,880
things up or things that we
wanted to do.

593
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,400
So I figured what I would do is
I'd have Hailey Weinstein, maybe

594
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,600
one of the actors would go.
Someone you know will say he.

595
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,000
Said he wanted to send me a.
Picture of this testicle this.

596
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Girl, you know, crying about it.
You know, maybe how this

597
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,600
director might think I'm have
responded.

598
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,760
I don't care.
I don't really my, my parents

599
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,840
see the messages and they laugh.
So like, I it's actually

600
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,560
providing entertainment for the
family, but whatever.

601
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,000
But so I could have the actress
be someone different than me.

602
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,560
Go, oh, I'm so offended.
Oh, what do I do?

603
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,920
What do I do?
And then Hailey Weinstein will

604
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,760
go just send it to his daughter,
which which I consider doing

605
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,400
because that would be, that
would be really.

606
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,880
Yeah, that would be really
messed up though.

607
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,480
You know, send it to their
family.

608
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,560
But but in satire, see, back to
satire and you take the material

609
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,240
and have a crazy producer go
just send the pictures to his

610
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,320
daughter.
Just honeypot him, you know.

611
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,120
So, you know, that's one reason
I like satire, because I got so

612
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,800
much material, man.
But anyway I.

613
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,560
Mean you probably you needed to
get through the day.

614
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,800
I can't imagine the douchebags
you work with on a daily basis.

615
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,200
I.
Can't imagine just trying to get

616
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,920
everyone paid from one shoot is
driving me insane.

617
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,320
It's just like I'm getting, I
think hostility.

618
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,360
It's like, but you know what,
There's a lot of great people

619
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,880
too, and you learn from
everybody.

620
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,240
And sometimes the great people
are going to send you pictures.

621
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Yeah, it looks like everyone,
the better and the worse.

622
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,240
You know, it's all the spectrum.
But anyway, we are at the end of

623
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,680
the interview.
I'm sorry I ate up your

624
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,440
interview giving crazy stories
for like 4 minutes.

625
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,400
But I would love to have you
back and talk about, you know,

626
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,160
the book after it comes out, you
know, maybe like, down the line.

627
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,400
So we're gonna have more clips.
And we did a very funny photo

628
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,159
shoot showing the creator,
Scott, the before and after of

629
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:14,360
what happens when he before he
tried bowling and then after.

630
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,719
And I love these photos and
videos.

631
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,159
I'm sitting on them.
I'm have them backed up and I

632
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,920
cannot wait to share them.
But we won't share them until

633
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,840
it's timed, you know, for the
crowdfunder.

634
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,080
So we're at the end.
Tell us where to find you any

635
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,719
websites and we'll put the link
to the crowdfunder in the under

636
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,880
the video.
Yeah, I'll work on that.

637
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,719
I'll get that done and then
support the book.

638
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,239
It's gonna be great.
I'm on Facebook Scott Cranack

639
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560
and Instagram Cranack.
Scott.

640
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:48,400
I think my website, it's too
long and I don't really update

641
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,080
it.
I post a lot on on social media,

642
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,080
so that's probably the best way
to find me and contact me.

643
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,200
But yeah, we're going to work on
this crowdfunder and post videos

644
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,160
and we'll try to get that going
soon.

645
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,280
It's gonna be cool.
It's gonna be really cool.

646
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,560
And the name of the book One
more time, just in case

647
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,640
listeners forgot.
Pin Fluence.

648
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,360
Pin Fluence.
Pin Fluence.

649
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,360
Alright.
A fictional history of women's

650
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,000
bowling?
Or I'm thinking of pin Fluence.

651
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,960
A fictional Or is it in
parentheses?

652
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
History of women's bowling?
I don't know, that may be too

653
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,400
much, but I'd like to.
Or maybe the real, or maybe the

654
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,600
real truth about bowling.
I like that.

655
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,240
Maybe.
But yeah, I.

656
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:33,960
Just titled it off like it's
real.

657
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,240
But anyway, it's not my book.
Alright, I gotta go.

658
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,160
I got someone waiting.
It's great to see your face.

659
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,200
You remind me of my mom's
brother.

660
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,920
You actually look like my uncle.
But yeah, you guys could.

661
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,680
You guys could be siblings.
It's really crazy.

662
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,080
Even the glass.
It's a good thing.

663
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,840
He's very creative.
Yeah, he he's very creative.

664
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,080
He's a big camera off in
Hollywood for years and did a

665
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,080
lot of creative stuff and really
cool camera stuff.

666
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,360
So, you know, he's a total
artist.

667
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,000
And so are you.
Cool, cool.

668
00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,480
So.
Yeah.

669
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Anyway, we'll be talking more
about the book us, your stuff

670
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,080
and.
I send you my drafts.

671
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,480
Yeah, and thank you for, you
know, taking the time that one

672
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,720
day we shot and that was great.
Oh yeah.

673
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,040
Thank you so much for having me
on and supporting my art in this

674
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,120
book.
It's going to be awesome.

675
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520
Of course it was a very crazy
day.

676
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Things have calmed down a little
since then, so hopefully when I

677
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,640
see you next in person it will
be much more Zen and not just a

678
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,160
rush that was.
Shane yeah, stay warm, stay

679
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,760
safe, because we're about to
nail.

680
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,280
Can't wait, can't wait.
I gotta see you later.

681
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,520
Bye.
And now back to the studio with

682
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,840
Mark Torres for more.
It came from the.

683
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,480
Hey, this is Billy West from
Show Business.

684
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,600
You're listening to It Came from
the radio.

685
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,120
Get out.
Get out.

686
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,400
Now back to our show.
You are listening to It came

687
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,480
from the radio and I just
watched a very interesting

688
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,200
movie.
I actually watched the last 30

689
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,520
minutes in the shower all
scrubbing my face and in the

690
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,320
sauna.
And I was quite entertained.

691
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,600
And well, let's let's just give
you a little synopsis.

692
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,720
This is this is not for me.
This is from the people who made

693
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,120
the movie.
So here we go.

694
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,400
The award-winning, wickedly good
revenge thriller Santosita, a

695
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,960
metal desanto production from
acclaimed Spanish filmmaker

696
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,040
Antono Antonio Munoz de Mesa, a
prolific director in film and

697
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,920
TV.
In the breakout section now.

698
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,680
Influencer by day.
This is the movie plot.

699
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,560
Vigilante by night.
Zoe Nocane Otola is a world

700
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,840
class travel influencer,
amassing millions of followers

701
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,760
by exploring the globe through
her vibrant channel Santa Zeta.

702
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,360
But when the vlogging ends, her
true mission begins.

703
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Uses her public persona as a
perfect cover to track and

704
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,440
eliminate child predators.
Fueled by the unsolved 12 murder

705
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,560
of her little sister, Zoe
embarks on a relentless hunt

706
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,160
across 3 continents, from the
underground neon of Korea to the

707
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,760
gritty sprawl of Los Angeles.
As she closes in on a global

708
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,440
network, the digital trail leads
her back to her own hometown in

709
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Spain, where she must confront a
nightmare far closer to home

710
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,800
than she ever imagined.
So hello, I really enjoyed this

711
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,840
welcome.
Thank you.

712
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,280
Thanks for having me here.
So lots of questions.

713
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,720
OK, so as you know, you're
probably have not been sleeping

714
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:26,480
under a rock.
You've probably seen that the

715
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,960
Epstein files and all this PDF
file child trafficking stuff is

716
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,600
all over the news, especially
this week and the last few days.

717
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,240
It's everywhere.
And this film is about, you

718
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,520
know, PDF files.
Or maybe maybe it is.

719
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,480
Maybe it's about insanity.
So is this a total coincidence

720
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,040
or?
Yeah, it's a total coincidence.

721
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Bad because it's a pandemic.
It's it's happening all the

722
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,000
time.
So I talked to a psychiatrist

723
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,520
that that said this is so many
cases around the world and all

724
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,200
the countries that that could be
like identified like a pandemic

725
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,200
because it has like the same
thing.

726
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,440
It's many, many cases in all the
countries and it's not, it's not

727
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,520
a virus per SE, but it's
something that happens all the

728
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,360
time.
OK, interesting.

729
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,000
So now really good question.
Is this at all inspired anything

730
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,160
or any parts of it?
Even the influencer parts

731
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,920
inspired by true events or parts
of your own life that you

732
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,760
experience directly?
Yeah, yeah.

733
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,720
I had a child abuse in my family
with a close relative.

734
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:42,920
So I lived it like, like the
reality breaks because we loved

735
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:48,360
him so much.
He was so charismatic and he was

736
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,200
someone that we loved, everyone
loved.

737
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,680
So for me, it's like the world
like breaks.

738
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,520
And I wanted to relate to that
fragmentation because in the

739
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,240
movie, she's fragmented.
She doesn't remember part of the

740
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,640
trauma.
And I was like always working

741
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,320
with word fragmentation because
when it connects, it's painful,

742
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,280
but at the same time it's, it's
a relief.

743
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,800
And, and the YouTube thing, the
YouTube thing is that like, I

744
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,440
lived in San Diego for three
years with my family with a visa

745
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,800
for artists and we opened a
channel about a, a Spanish

746
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,160
family living there.
So I I made like 3000 videos and

747
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,200
it was a very famous channel
from 2014 to 2017.

748
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:34,680
So I fell in love with that
language, with the YouTube

749
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,960
language.
Yeah, I really enjoyed the film

750
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,040
and there's some nice
architecture and there's a lot

751
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,320
of nice visuals and I love the
lighting of amber lighting in

752
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,800
the green and you know, the red
and blue a lot of people use.

753
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,000
But it's always nice to look at.
So OK, so now I'm going to move

754
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,120
on to the star of this who's
called the God of War by one of

755
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,760
the characters.
So she's kind of a hero, I

756
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,680
guess, an anti hero.
She's flawed.

757
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,000
She she does bad things, she
does good things.

758
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,280
What characters did you have in
mind for references or what

759
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,880
already existing Gods of War
were inspirations for this

760
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,640
character?
Yeah, I, I didn't have any

761
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,840
inspiration.
I was because I'm in love with

762
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,920
anime and manga.
I love these kind of characters

763
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:29,200
that has like many angles and
that for me I wanted to balance

764
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:35,440
this revenge vigilante superhero
like cartoonish theme with an

765
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,320
ordinary daughter that lives in
the north of Spain and with the

766
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,800
vulnerable child that has been
abused.

767
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:52,000
So I want to have a dialogue
between those 3 layers and an

768
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,920
anime and manga does it very
well because it's, it's not

769
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,200
linear.
You then you, you stop the

770
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,320
narration and and you go back
and then you have the story of

771
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,040
the villain.
Like we have them black and

772
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,880
white sequences with a little
girl.

773
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:11,200
And then you met the villain
before the so you had an idea of

774
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,880
the villain, but then you'd have
another idea because you heard

775
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,040
the story.
So for me it was like I don't

776
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,760
know, I had an attack on Titan,
demon Slayer, even free Ren,

777
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,400
different mangas and animas in
my head.

778
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,840
And before I think any character
did anything a little evil, or

779
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,040
maybe afterwards, there was a
kiss on the cheek that occurred.

780
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,840
So in my real life, you know,
one thing I kind of live by is

781
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,160
anyone who's overly throwing
out, I love you.

782
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,120
Oh my God, I love you, you're so
great, I love you.

783
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,960
Those are the people to watch
out for.

784
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,400
And also in my life, the people
said trust you can trust me are

785
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,040
the main people not to trust me
and the only people that owe me

786
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,240
money.
So I always kind of watch out

787
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,400
when people are like a little
too sweet.

788
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,640
So is there a reason why you had
like, sweet kisses on the cheeks

789
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,520
associated with the characters
right before or after they did

790
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,600
something a little villainous or
destructive?

791
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,720
Yeah, because I think affection
I love is the main reason why

792
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:16,360
the predators justify themselves
and the victims and survivors

793
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:20,920
feel that affection.
So they feel it, they feel

794
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,600
loved.
That's why it's so

795
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,600
contradiction.
It's like I'm a kid and I feel

796
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,640
loved, but at the same time,
this shouldn't be happening.

797
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,360
So for me, it's like a kind of
perverse affection.

798
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,640
Right.
Interesting.

799
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Now I'm going to say, you know,
in my life, and this is I, I

800
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,640
don't know if you ever saw a
Caddyshack, but the people in

801
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,280
Caddyshack, they're all uptight
and they're well dressed and

802
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,680
they don't do really bad things.
But, you know, I, I just have a

803
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,200
thing for uptight people.
And I find that the people who

804
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,720
are often like Bill Cosby, the
Bill Cosby effect, they're well

805
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,480
dressed, they say the right
things, they're polite, they

806
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,560
don't curse, but yet they're the
one who are either contributing

807
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,600
nothing or doing something
dangerous.

808
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,640
Whereas with someone like my dad
who will wear, you know, hiking

809
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,320
boots to dinner, he's actually
really, you know, helping.

810
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,840
But no, but he might say the
wrong thing and, you know, you

811
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,480
know, he might wear sweatpants
or whatever.

812
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,440
So in this film, you know, the
whole time, a little spoiler

813
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,600
alert, you think that the main
character, the God of wars, I

814
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,360
know, the good guy getting
revenge or justice against all

815
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,560
these really bad guys because of
the bad guys are made to look

816
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,480
really, really bad.
You know, at least from the

817
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,040
point of view or the viewer.
So but then at the end.

818
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,560
We kind of find out her parents
are maybe the bad guys and they

819
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,080
seem all buttoned up and they
say the right thing and they do

820
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,280
the right thing and they're
respected by the community, but

821
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,440
she's stealing outwardly.
So that's my long way of asking

822
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,880
who's the good guy?
Who's the bad guy in this film?

823
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:58,760
Yeah, I didn't because I wanted
to to play to disguise this

824
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:05,400
drama with genre, revenge genre,
like speed on the I Will Speed

825
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,880
on Your Grave and this mini Kill
Bill parody.

826
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,760
Like I have a list and I have to
kill people.

827
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:17,320
It's like just a cliche to make
the audience comfortable with

828
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,640
the language.
But for me, it wasn't about bad

829
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,760
guys or it was a bad way to look
at love.

830
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,000
It's like, how do you look at
love in a bad way?

831
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,280
So that's why I have the little
black and white stories because

832
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,240
they have all their
justifications.

833
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,960
Joe Kim in South Korea has their
own justification, Tavius Ginger

834
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:43,560
that has this illness and the
nameless monster too.

835
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,920
So for me, it's you're not good
or bad.

836
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:52,800
You're looking at love in a, in
a very dangerous way because

837
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,000
because I've lived in myself and
I and I and I see that they,

838
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,560
they think they love the people
that they abuse.

839
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,840
Right.
I think most people, I'm trying

840
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,920
to, you know, I am thinking of 1
abuser because I do have a bit

841
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,840
of a justice story and I do want
to make a documentary about this

842
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,000
person.
And this person has broken at

843
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,560
least three people's bones and
driven vehicle and so at least

844
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,240
two groups of people and is a
really bad person.

845
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,880
But I don't know, I don't think
there's love behind it.

846
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920
I think it's straight up sadism.
So that exists too, I guess.

847
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,360
You know, sometimes there's love
and it's a mix, and then

848
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,360
sometimes we just have people
that really enjoy destroying

849
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,000
other people.
And I don't know if there's love

850
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,800
to her.
Yeah, that's crazy to me.

851
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,760
Yeah.
It's like, because for me it has

852
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:43,680
to be some kind of something
that holds that thing that you

853
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,880
want to destroy some, some
other.

854
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,480
For me this is very interesting
because in the north of Spain,

855
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,240
it's a very closed community,
the best country.

856
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,560
So if you marry something, a
black woman or black woman or

857
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,760
from Venezuela in this case, or
you're letting into the

858
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,800
community some alien stuff.
So if you have a daughter that

859
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,800
is a mix, you're like a
colonist.

860
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,840
You can colonize your own
daughter because it's from

861
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,640
another.
You wouldn't do it with a real

862
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,080
Spanish, not the Spain Basque
girl.

863
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,000
So we talked a lot about this
thing that you have the right to

864
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,480
be like a Christopher Columbus
over your daughter.

865
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,640
I know it sounds crazy, but it's
a logic that sometimes happens

866
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:38,480
when when you're like the you
are in your land and you have

867
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,920
invited something in in your
land.

868
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,240
It's all the time that you're a
slave.

869
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Interesting, very interesting.
My mom lived in Madrid for a

870
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,280
little while so I I always enjoy
the Spanish language and it was

871
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,280
very interesting to listen to it
on a slave.

872
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,240
Rather listen to that than
English anytime.

873
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,000
So what else inspired you to
make this film?

874
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,000
Like making a film for, well,
first of all, my first question

875
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,200
is how long did it take?
And then why go through all the

876
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,000
suffering and the sacrifice?
Because there's always some bit

877
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,280
of suffering and sacrifice or at
least losing sleep, you know?

878
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,120
You know, there's always some
type of sacrifice.

879
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:19,920
Yeah, for me, for me was like
the adventure of discovering the

880
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,120
movie while filming because we
didn't have much pre production

881
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,880
and the main character didn't
travel outside of Spain.

882
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:33,720
I told her you're going to
discover these places, Seoul in

883
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:37,080
South Korea, Los Angeles, United
States, everything for the first

884
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,280
time as a person and I would
like you to play that as a

885
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,000
character.
So, and we are, we only were

886
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,600
seven people filming, so it was
like a family, a run and gun

887
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,960
style discovering the movie
because I didn't write the

888
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,080
script before I was writing the
scenes.

889
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,200
I told them what was going to
happen, but now how?

890
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,560
And it was right like 2 days in
advance.

891
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,280
So we were discovering the the
film.

892
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,440
It it was really fun, yeah.
Two days in advance.

893
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,840
I mean, what if you got sick
those two days?

894
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,280
Or food poisoning, you know,
which might have happened in the

895
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,920
movie at some point.
You know I mean 'cause then you

896
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,200
lose those.
Two days and you're going to

897
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,040
have to cancel the shoot.
That would give me some major

898
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,880
anxiety.
Major.

899
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,920
Anxiety.
I mean, yesterday my whole day

900
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,680
was shot.
I was supposed to do all this

901
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,520
stuff.
I was shot.

902
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,760
I did interviews those two
times.

903
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,640
So yeah, wow.
That's that's.

904
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:31,080
Pretty ambitious.
We were lucky, we were lucky.

905
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,800
I didn't think about that.
I thought it was going to be OK.

906
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,200
We were 4-4 days shooting in
Seoul, five days in Los Angeles

907
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,800
and then they see in the past
country in the north of Spain.

908
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,280
It was 18 days shooting in 3D
friend in September, October and

909
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,320
January.
Well, this might be too personal

910
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,120
the question, so feel free to
answer this however, but I work

911
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,760
with all different types of film
makers.

912
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,200
We're shooting 2 features and
two shorts in this house, right?

913
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,640
You know, in the next two
months.

914
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,960
And a common topic is investment
and money and who provides the

915
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,680
money, how you get the money,
how you get the location.

916
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,880
So if you could give us any
insights on how you got these

917
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,000
awesome locations and the great
actress or you know, what type

918
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,560
of funding you needed, you know,
any details on that?

919
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,560
Yeah, we we were lucky because
we had some investors that are

920
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:26,000
friends of of my partner that
wanted to support the production

921
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,600
company and gave us three
$300,000.

922
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:35,600
So I wrote a script that when I
finished writing it, they loved

923
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,080
it, but it was like 2 million so
we couldn't shoot it.

924
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,080
So I said I have a story in the
back of my mind of a traveler.

925
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:47,200
YouTube that it could add
production value like 3

926
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,560
different continents and and I
know these places because I've

927
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,000
been to Seoul and I know the
places and I lived in San Diego.

928
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,960
So I think we can do this pretty
quick and I have a great

929
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,640
actress.
So they said yes, and we did it

930
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,640
with just three cameras at the
same time because they're

931
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:13,000
vlogging camera and 22 cameras
that they have a Steadicam, the

932
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,160
out of focus and everything in
the same place as running 4D,

933
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,440
the same cameras that they did
Civil War or adolescence, the TV

934
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,080
show.
They're great cameras for this

935
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,400
kind of shooting.
Looks beautiful.

936
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,280
I really like the visuals.
I'm very sensitive.

937
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,960
There's certain visuals, it
looks ugly.

938
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,960
I just I just don't want to
watch it.

939
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,720
It was so pretty.
I was like, oh, this kind of

940
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,240
transports you.
I mean, it's nothing like white,

941
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:39,960
like White Lotus, but White
Lotus is so beautiful and

942
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,640
there's parts of this that are
so beautiful.

943
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,480
I'm like, oh wow, I just want to
watch it again.

944
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,840
So pretty.
All right, so totally different.

945
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,000
Switching gears, the main
actress, she has to get pretty

946
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,400
violent and she has to have some
anger in her, I would say, and

947
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,920
some aggression.
So how did the director get this

948
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,040
out of her?
Did she just have it naturally?

949
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Were there any guidelines or
methods to get her to that

950
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,080
place?
Well, because I knew her so

951
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,520
well, I taught her for three
years in in school in Madrid.

952
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:17,360
I knew, I knew that she could do
these three layers and I don't

953
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,080
because I'm an actor myself.
I have theater company and I've

954
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,320
been touring with and I'm a
playwright.

955
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,960
I know that we have just to work
on the here and now the presence

956
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,760
and and and Nikani is very, very
focused.

957
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:38,040
Also, she's in the spectrum of
of autism and she's really

958
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:43,000
functional, but she she has to
be careful with the stimuli, the

959
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,760
sounds, everything.
So at the same time that gives

960
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:52,480
her like a very focused here and
now thing that when I was

961
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,520
watching her, even the way she
thinks it's like, wow, it's very

962
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,600
powerful.
It's very powerful.

963
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,600
And and she was very she
thanked, thanked us because we

964
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,800
were taking care of of these.
She had to be with some

965
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:14,600
headphones for the sounds and
whatever and, and she felt, she

966
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,000
felt very good because we were
with her all the time, not

967
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,160
saying, oh, this is an
inconvenience.

968
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,920
No, it's something that gives
power to to your character.

969
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,560
And we were working that here
and now that's it.

970
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,520
Oh, wow, that's very cool.
It's nice to see.

971
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,320
And I take care of each other.
I worked on a film and I cast

972
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,960
the lead actress and I don't
think we've put her through

973
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,880
hell, but like, we've had some
scenes where she was scantily

974
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,720
clad and she was in the cold and
this girl could just do anything

975
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,560
and a lot of actors would just
crumble.

976
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,360
So it, it's nice to see when
people look out.

977
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,040
I, I, I, you know, as a makeup
artist and exec producer, I was

978
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,400
basically her slave running
around and just hoping so make

979
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,120
Sabrina comfortable.
That was my whole job.

980
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,640
Please, you know, it's always
what I try to do if you're

981
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,720
working with anyone.
All right, so we're at the very

982
00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:02,840
end of the interview.
So anything that you just want

983
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,600
us to know about the film,
anything on your mind?

984
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,280
Well, you know.
Something, something very

985
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,680
magical happened because we were
shooting in this space where the

986
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,400
Basque people, men gather to
cook and women cannot go into

987
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,640
just once a year and whatever.
And, and the main actress said,

988
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:31,080
said I, I dreamt as my character
last night.

989
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:39,680
And I dreamt I had a scene, I
had a scene with my father and,

990
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:46,320
and, and that scene in that
scene I, I was questioning

991
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,200
because I don't know in the
script something that I, I, I

992
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,200
questioned my father.
So, so I said, what you dreamt

993
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,080
that as a character?
So I wrote it.

994
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,400
I wrote it there.
And I, and I asked the actor,

995
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,640
can you go to, back to Madrid in
the next train so we can shoot

996
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,880
the dream that the actress had.
So it was a beautiful scene.

997
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,520
It's a scene when he is in a
very green situation, smoking

998
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,800
and with a laptop and she's
asking, something happened to

999
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,680
me.
Can you tell me what happened?

1000
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,040
And he keeps saying just take
your pill, take your pill.

1001
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,120
So that comes from a dream.
So I like it.

1002
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,000
I like when when we we can do
that.

1003
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,480
Yeah, it was great.
So OK, I said we're at the end,

1004
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,240
but one final question.
Do you think that you get real

1005
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:36,520
life messages through dreams and
then also give us your socials

1006
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:37,840
and where to find you in the
film?

1007
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,400
What can you say the question
again so.

1008
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,520
Do you think you get like
premonitions or messages or from

1009
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:50,920
God or spirit or the future
dimensions or just truth through

1010
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,400
dreams?
Do you think that actually

1011
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,160
happens to future?
Yeah, yeah, I think yeah.

1012
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,280
For me, since I was a kid, I
know that this is real.

1013
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:04,520
So if you disagree, I say OK, I
know because I feel it.

1014
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,280
For me, what what is happening
is everything is happening at

1015
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,720
the same time, the future, the
present and the past.

1016
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,920
And because it is happening at
the same time, if you are alert,

1017
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,160
you can just go and take a
little from the future, a little

1018
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,560
from the past, and you can make
your own decisions, discover or

1019
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,480
sculpt the reality because it's
happening and I know it's true.

1020
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:33,040
So, So for me, filming is like,
I know that this movie is gonna,

1021
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:38,240
it's gonna be OK because it's
already shot and I know it went

1022
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:39,160
well.
So.

1023
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,960
So I feel that way.
Yeah, no, it was so awesome.

1024
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,200
I'm so glad that I made the time
for this.

1025
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,200
And where can people find you?
Websites, socials, Any

1026
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:53,600
premieres, screenings.
Yeah, in Santa theta.com we have

1027
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,840
a link screen with all the
socials, and we're going to be

1028
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,120
also in the San Diego Latino
Film Festival now in March.

1029
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,000
So from the slanders, we go to
San Diego.

1030
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,360
Well, that's the end of the
interview and thank you for

1031
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,240
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Radio.

1032
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:12,080
And now we're going to go back
to the studio for more with Mark

1033
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,360
Torres.
Thank you.

1034
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,440
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1035
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:32,480
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1036
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,840
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1037
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,800
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1040
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1045
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1046
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,600
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1047
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,800
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1048
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,640
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