May 18, 2026
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at our 104th live show (courtesy of the East Meadow Public Library), Comic distributer Phil Russertt joins Mark and Jenny Feldy as our guest
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And now it came from the radio.
Yeah, and welcome once again to
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It came from the radio, the
official show, the Big Apple.
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Khan, this is your host, Mark
Torres speaking.
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I'm here live in front of it
live to the audience.
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East Meadow Public Library for
our 104th live show.
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I am joined by my Co host and
Jenny Feldman.
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Thank you for having me.
Hello everyone.
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And we have our special guest
who is directed right now.
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We're going to be talking to
with and about him, which is
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awesome because he's here.
He is comic book creator and
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comic book distributor Phil
Russert.
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Hello, thanks for having me.
So as I mentioned, we're going
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to be talking to with and about
Phil in just a few minutes.
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radio website is my book
Designated a book about two
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warring alien races fighting
over a newly discovered power
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Earth and as a result some
humans gain abilities.
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Issue 1 and issue 2 is on sale
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All right, so as always, we
always start off with the sad
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news.
Let's see what we have here.
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One of the original creators of
the he Man toy designer Roger
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Sweet, died recently after he
was moved to A to a memory care
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facility earlier this year.
He was 91.
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Roger Sweet, you're a fan of he
Man Jen, you know, do you know
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of he Man?
You should know him.
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So the guy who created the toy
he man was turned into the
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manager franchise.
He was the one that made it and
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he passed away.
Do you have any other words on
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your experience with He Man?
Did you play with He Man Shira?
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Maybe you just knew it existed.
I know it existed fast.
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Lifeline.
Lifeline.
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So I was a big fan of the comic
books that came the first
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storyline that came out with the
figures before the cartoon.
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So the Barbarians.
Yeah.
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It's it's funny, I do remember I
was a human fan.
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I still am, I guess occasional
he man.
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I am concerned about the movie.
I have not seen a trailer yet.
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The live action movie.
A little worried about it, but
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we'll just wait and see what.
Concerns you?
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Well, I mean the last live
action He man was a really bad
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movie.
Oh, really?
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So I'm worried that this is
going to be the same way.
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I I I have not seen any
trailers, but I'm just concerned
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that they're not going to have
enough of eternity and he man
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stuff.
And as as you may not know, the
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villain is played by Jared Leto.
And Jared Leto is box office
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poison because the last couple
movies he's been in has.
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Tanked for his own.
You know what?
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Though I like his stuff.
That's that's the thing.
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That's where I don't care what
society thinks because I saw him
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in the Gucci movie.
He was the best part.
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He I think he won't like a
Razzie for worst actor.
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The.
Best part of the entire thing?
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Requiem.
He was a phenomenal.
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I saw a little of this Joker
thing with Harley Quinn.
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He was great.
What's the problem?
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So what, he has a cult?
Well, the problem, like I said,
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the problem is that his his
movies that he decides to work
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on make no money so.
That was.
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Usually the voice of Skeletor,
at least.
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Even I am, like I said, I'm
concerned.
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But I remember when I was a kid
and the He Man toy came out of
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the the animated series, the
filmation series, and I was
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like, what the hell is this?
Because I was a fan of the
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barbarian.
It was a roaming barbarian.
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It had a different sorceress.
Yeah.
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It had a different mythology
than what the cartoon was.
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And I'm watching this and I'm
like, well, this is some crap.
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But I gave it some chance.
And as a kid, it won me over.
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And I and I became a fan of both
versions of He Man ever since.
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Well, you know, Dark Horse did
an omnibus of those original
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comics, so that's pretty cool.
So he was 91.
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So moving on more sad news,
actor Donald Richard Gibb also
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died recently after quote a long
illness.
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While Donald was in a handful of
movies and TV shows, he is
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perhaps best remembered for his
role as Ray Jackson in the Van
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Damme film Blood Sport and his
sequel Blood Sport Part 2, as
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well as Ogre, whose real name in
this show was Frederick and
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Luwasis Palawski and three of
the four Revenge of the Nerd
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films.
He was 71.
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Did you ever watch Revenge and
Nerds?
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Yeah.
Do you remember Ogre?
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The big guy?
The big bad guy.
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You know what I I forgot
everything.
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I forget a lot of things like
you know, listen, you want to
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talk health or psychology or
something on the show, I'm your
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girl.
If you want me to talk about, I
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never know like you know the.
Movie revenge and nerds.
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Yeah, I forgot, though.
I saw it like 30 years ago, you
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know?
I mean, like, you know, I forgot
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how I clipped my toenails 30
years ago.
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I don't remember.
I don't know.
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So you a fan of a resident?
I remember well, yes.
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Well, thank God someone does.
You know, I maybe I should be in
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the memory care unit.
You know how was men?
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How was of the generation where
you were too young to see your
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parents showed it to you anyway
so.
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I do remember just the fact that
he was over and that's just who
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he became.
And so I always whenever I see
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him in any other TV show or
movie or anything like, hey,
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it's over.
I was like seeing people get
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jobs.
And when he did the Van Damme
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movie Bloodsport, he was the big
burly guy who was Van Damme's
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friend in the movie.
He was like hey Ogre is is moved
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on and in the in the course of
the nerds world, it actually
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turns out that he was a closet
nerd.
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And in part 4 he came out as a
nerd and he was part of the
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group.
So they won him over from the
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the the the villain in the 1st.
Movie.
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Yeah, I didn't make it to four.
I got through the 1st 2:00.
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And that was it.
You didn't see 3. 9.
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So he was 71.
So then we move on to the last
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bit of sad news writer Gerald
Francis Conroy Conway.
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Sorry.
The letter known as just Jerry
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Conway also died recently from
pancreatic cancer.
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Jerry was a comic writer and Co
created such characters as The
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Punisher, Ben Riley, Firestorm,
Power Girl and Jason Todd just
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named a few.
Jerry also wrote such films as
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Fire and Ice which I love that
movie Conan the Destroyer which
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I did not know.
He wrote and worked on such TV
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shows as GI Joe, Real American
Hero, the original Transformers
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cartoon, the Centurions, My
Little Pony, dinosaurs, Dino
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writers follow darling
mysteries.
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I was with Tom Bosley, Batman
the Animated Series, Spider Man,
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the Animated Series, Hercule
Legendary Journeys and Law and
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Order, Criminal Intent, just to
name a few.
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He was 73.
I I knew he was a comic by I had
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no idea he did all this other
stuff.
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You're a fan of any?
Of those things, yeah, plenty of
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them.
What was your you remember fire
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and hifi I used to love?
That's one of my favorite
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animated stories, so absolutely.
I would like to see him do a
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mash up of the My Little Pony
with Law and Order, say
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combining those crossovers.
That would be really cool.
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It's funny you mentioned that
because there is a movie out
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now.
I think it's out now that Hugh
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Jackman is in it, and he plays a
sheep herder, an animal herder,
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and all the animals are talking
sheep, detective.
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Yeah.
And they're trying to solve his
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murder.
So they.
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That's close enough, right?
Yeah.
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Something like that.
So he was 73.
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So that's it for the sad news.
So moving on to the not as sad
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news from the department.
The new Devil Wears Prada sequel
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has taken the number one spot in
the domestic box office, pulling
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in an additional $41.6 million
in ticket sales in its second
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weekly release, beating out the
new Mortal Kombat sequel which
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came in the number two spot,
making $38.5 million in its
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first release.
So those of you keeping track,
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the Super Mario Brothers Movie
is the highest grossing film of
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this year with 412 point $6
million, followed by Project
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Hail Mary with $328.9 million.
Phil Devil Wears Prada Yes No.
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Couldn't careless.
Hail Mary.
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Prada.
Kale, Mary.
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I didn't see it yet.
I heard it was really good
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though.
And Super Mario, did you see
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that?
No, I didn't.
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Jen.
I want to see My dad wants to
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see Devil Wears Prada in
theaters.
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Your dad wants?
Yeah, my dad.
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Yeah, my dad's funny.
But I, I wonder if with the
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Devil Wears Prada or the hell
would be too hot, maybe the
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clothes would burn off, you
know, like, like does Zevil wear
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clothing?
You know, I'm just letting you
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go.
Would they wear Prada?
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Gucci.
Maybe they would shop at
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Marshalls, get a deal.
Maybe they would steal clothing.
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Maybe they would steal Prada.
Maybe.
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Maybe, definitely, there's a
fashion diva in disguise.
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Did you see the 1st?
Movie I did.
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Yeah, I did.
Do you?
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Like the first.
Yeah, I like that this.
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One, did you think it needed a
sequel?
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Do you know what happens to
these characters?
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You know what?
I forget every movie, so I don't
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really know what the hell
happened.
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I kind of remember you.
Know.
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I just like put on movie and
it's an experience.
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It's like eating, you know?
It's like, OK, I kind of, you
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know, disassociated.
Enjoyed it for the moment and
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then.
Yeah, unless I have to interview
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someone, I kind of just space
out, get into the vibe.
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But I couldn't tell you what
happened at 4 minutes in or
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unless it's my job and then I'll
really pay attention.
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I got enough scripts to pay
attention.
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If I put a movie on it, it's
like, alright, isn't my free.
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Let's like space out and July,
you know?
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Yeah.
It.
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Makes sense?
Yeah.
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Yeah, it makes.
Sense.
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Placement.
Moving on from the there's
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literally a video of him saying
IT department.
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Well, none other than Disney and
James Cameron are being sued by
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actress Oh boy Curia, Oh Boy
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quote unauthorized use of her
likeness and foundation in
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Natiri in the film Avatar.
According to the documents, she
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alleges that when she was 14 and
she had recently appeared in
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Pocahontas in the film The New
World, James extracted her
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facial features from a published
photograph and directed his team
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to use it as foundation for the
character.
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In the cheery and Avatar Cheery
would be the main lead, which is
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Zoe Saldan lawyer says
Curianca's likeness.
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I'm sorry I'm messing up your
name was replaced in production
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sketches was replicated in
production sketches, sculpted
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into 3 dimensional marquettes,
laser scan into high resolution
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digital models and distributed
across multiple visual effects
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vendors forms to characters
image.
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The image was later seen in
theatres, on posters, in
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merchandise, across sequels and
re releases without her
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knowledge or consent.
What Cameron did was not
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inspirational, it was
extraction.
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He took the unique biometric
facial features of a 14 year old
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and indigenous girl, ran through
an industrial production process
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and generated billions of
dollars in profit with however
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once asking her permission.
This is not filmmaking, this is
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death.
Now here's the thing.
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Apparently before the film was
ever made, James met or, or oh
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boy yes met Q at an event.
He then personally invited her
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to visit his office.
One week later, Cameron was out
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and a member of his staff
presented her with a framed
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print of a sketch James had
made.
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Attached to the print was a
handwritten note from James
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reading quote.
Your beauty was my early
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inspiration from Naturi.
Too bad you were shooting
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another movie.
Next time, Now there's a video
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online right now you can go and
see James Cameron talking about
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behind the scenes that he
clearly points out that that
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girl and that picture that he
used is the use for the basis
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for the movie.
He's like, that's my character,
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Go make her this, Priyanka says.
You want to read that?
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When I received Cameron's
sketch, I believed it was a
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personal gesture at most, the
loose inspiration tied to
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casting and my activism.
Millions of people opened their
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hearts to Avatar because they
believed in its message, and I
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was one of them.
I never imagined that someone I
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trusted was systematically used
my as part of an elaborate
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design process and integrated
into a product pipeline without
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my knowledge of her consent.
That crosses a major line.
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This act is deeply wrong.
It is deeply disturbing to learn
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that my face as a 14 year old
girl was taken and used without
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my knowledge or consent to help
create a commercial asset that
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has generated enormous value for
Disney and Cameron.
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So she seeks compensatory and
punitive damages, profits
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available to the use of her
likeness, including injunctive
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relief and corrective public
disclosure.
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Now, I find this to be a very
interesting topic because I can
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actually see both sides of the
argument.
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This is because, as you know,
Jen, we have you as a cover in
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my book, right?
And when I created my
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characters, when I originally
told the artist way back when,
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30 years ago, I told the artist
my lead is going to be like a
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Britney Spears type.
So I envisioned Britney Spears,
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if I had the money at the time
to hire Britney Spears, she
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would have been back then.
So the artist took his to, oh,
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Britney Spears and he do, it
doesn't look anything like
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Britney Spears.
But that was always my idea.
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And so anytime any other artist
was to draw my character, I
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always said she was my
envisioner for Britney Spears.
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So then, as you were very well
aware, we talked about you
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cosplaying as my character.
You had the outfit, you had a
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wig.
You took pictures of the outfit
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and the wig.
I then took those pictures of
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you and the outfit and the wig
and sent it to the cover artist
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Russ Braun, who works on the
Boys, and said, hey, Russ, this
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is what the Krautfit looks like.
I invented her to look like
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Britney Spears.
And I also sent her a picture.
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I sent him a picture of Elijah
Cuthbert from 24 and a specific
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pose.
And I said this is the idea I
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have for a pose, this is what I
want, and I sent it to Russ.
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All that without giving consent
to Britney Spears, without
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giving consent to Elijah
Cuthbert, without any of that.
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And then he drew.
Well, luckily it looks like me,
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but that's the thing, so.
Thank God, so we actually got.
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Nothing like Britney Spears.
I actually had talked to Russ
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about the cover for issue 1 and
a lot of people have said that
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you look like this on the cover.
I was like, well, that wasn't
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the intent.
However, he did use the pitcher
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as reference.
My question is, I don't know the
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law, but they turned her into a
blue alien, so they're not
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actually using her exact
likeness.
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And there's Oma, there's like
homage, there's parody laws,
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there's a lot of laws.
So I don't know the law, but
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it's one thing if like the AI
digitally made it her, it's
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another if they used her as a
reference and made an alien.
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So I don't know if they have a
case or.
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Not because it's not her, but
the problem is it is her,
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according to James Cannon's
video.
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That.
As a as a reference.
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He said that she.
Wasn't, but her face is not the
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final rendition because it's an
alien.
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Right, but his exact words was
this is Najiri, he said.
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But what I mean, I mean, I don't
know the law, but I don't know
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if he did anything illegal as my
I don't know if he needed her
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legal permission and she's just
a reference.
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I don't know.
And that's the question, how
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much, how far do you go from the
reference or how far do you go
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like, oh, I want to make, I'm
going to make.
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There was a movie that you did
when you're a radio person, the
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movie.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That they said that they wrote
the script specifically for you.
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Oh.
Yeah, right.
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Yeah.
What?
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Was the name of the movie.
Ed the airwaves.
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Next month, yeah.
OK.
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So they said that specifically
for you.
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They said it was written for
you, and let's say they got
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somebody else.
Yeah, well, that's.
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In the movie, but they're
saying, oh, it was you.
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So you have the ability to be
like, hey, you said it was for
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me.
You specifically said this is
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me.
Yeah.
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Do you have grounds for or what
are your thoughts on that whole?
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Well, that would be different
because that would be the whole
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script is written based on me
and then you give it to someone
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else, which actually, if
someone, you know who sent me a
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message after I watched the
petty Lamar documentary, I'm
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like this.
I'm afraid of people stealing my
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ideas.
And two people told me, watch
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out for someone, you know this
guy.
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And he said, Oh, he's going to
steal ideas.
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And I get a voice message one
day.
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Hey, I think I'm going to do
what we did together and do with
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some other people in the
islands.
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Like, no, it's my idea, it's my
concept, it's my everything.
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And all he did was hold the
camera.
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So, you know, whatever there's
there's all different levels of
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nuance.
But you know, I guess we'll have
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to see what the law is.
But I guess I I'm not litigious,
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but if someone's saying on
video, hey, we're taking your
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face and they have bazillions
dollars.
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I mean it's beyond millions.
I'm sure it's fine to the
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billions.
I'm sure they could throw her a
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few thousand for her face.
You know, you're saying it on
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camera, you know, and give her
something, you know, a couple
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cents, like come on, you know,
and I'm not someone who would
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like ask for it.
I'm pretty generous.
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I'm like deep fake me, I don't
care.
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So we haven't had an official
response from Disney or James
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Cameron.
And the reason why Disney is
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involved is because Disney
bought Fox, Fox was Avatar and
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James Cameron.
So we haven't heard from them
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yet.
But we do know that Disney loves
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this type of thing where they're
like, you know, no money for
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nobody.
And if you remember, they had,
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we were talking about the, the
lady that got the, that died in
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the, the the amusement park with
the food poisoning.
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And they were like, oh, that
they would try to sue Disney.
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And they're like, oh, no, you
don't, we don't.
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You can't sue us because it was
a self standing eatery in Disney
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World was a big thing.
And Disney has also notoriously
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have not allowed people to use
their characters on Tombstone or
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like, so Disney, this is bad for
Disney, but it is James Cameron
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who is his own person.
So I think it's very
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interesting.
And where would it go?
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And.
I.
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I think it's on on the side that
he doesn't have to, but he
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should, right?
I think he should give up.
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And he made a giant bag of money
off of it.
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If there's AI mean morally,
yeah, yeah.
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If there's a loophole in the
law, I would imagine it's
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because it's not actually her.
It's they use as a reference and
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it's a digital alien.
That might be a loophole.
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I don't know the law.
That might be the same way they
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use that.
Oh, that's a free standing
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business on our property.
It's well, it's it's based on
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her, but it's actually this blue
alien.
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Is she a blue alien?
So you know, they have the top
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notch lawyers, you know, so
they'll know every every angle
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to take I'm.
Sure.
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Well you do that as well.
Some of your characters are
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based you have the tragedy is
based on your wife right
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personality.
Wise, but.
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The but.
The Tyler, the Tyler Kirkham
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cover.
Actually, he never saw my wife,
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but it looks a lot like her.
So let's say some reason she
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decides to sue the artist be
like, hey, that was that's me.
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Where's my cut?
Or is it because you, I mean,
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you did say?
I think morally she should get
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something right.
Again.
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Courts are moral.
The law is not about morality,
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it's about how to bend it and
how to break it.
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So Speaking of the law is
another crazy one from the
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That's one way to stop people
from spoiling a movie
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department.
In Japan, copyright and
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intellectual property laws can
be quite different than those in
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North America.
So a 39 year old man named
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Waturu Tenchikui posted a
detailed description of Godzilla
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-1 story from early 2023 to
2024, which got him arrested and
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sentenced to a year and a half.
In prison was a $1 million yen,
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which is about $6000 US fine.
Japan's Overseas Distribution
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Association, or quota for short,
says numerous websites that
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extract texts from movies and
other content have been
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identified and are considered
problematic as so-called spoiler
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sites.
While these actions tend to be
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perceived as less serious than
piracy sites or illegal uploads
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that upload content that upload
the content itself, they are
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clear copyright infringements
that go beyond the scope of Fair
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use and are serious crimes.
The problem with websites that
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extract tests from movies or
other content is that they
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reduce the willingness to pay
fair price for the content,
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leading people to not watch the
official full length movies and
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causing significant damage to
right holders.
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Furthermore, the act of
infringing on content creators
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that have harvested time, effort
and money in producing and
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unfairly obtaining advertising
revenue from such sites is
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extremely malicious and should
never be tolerated.
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CODA will closely monitor the
details of this case as they
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unfold during future
investigations and criminal
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trials and will continue to
strive for the proper protection
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of copyrights and implement
effective measures against
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similar websites.
This activity was conducted as
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part of a project commissioned
by the Ministry of Economy,
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Trade and Industry.
So Jen, what do you think of
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somebody spoiling a movie online
and getting arrested and thrown
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in jail with a fine?
Absolutely stupid.
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First of all, I've never heard
this but I don't believe in
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spoilers because again, I see
movie watching and things as an
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experience.
I will not have the experience
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no matter how much you describe.
Like I heard it and I heard
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human centipede described by by
two people and I feel like I've
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seen it and I I still I don't
want to see either one because
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whatever, I don't, I don't want
to see the such hard, but it's
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not the same.
And this is absolutely
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ridiculous.
Anything it's advertising.
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I can see if they're taking
pictures and screenshots, but a
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description to me that's that's
free promotion.
450
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,720
So this is nuts to me.
What are your thoughts?
451
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,160
Well, as an IP creator myself,
it would really depend on what I
452
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,040
would want to keep under wraps.
And if you're blowing that, if
453
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,840
you're, if you're spoiling
something that you want to keep
454
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,840
under wraps and you feel it
could hurt the film, I can see
455
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,040
you wanting to pursue some sort
of punitive damage.
456
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,640
But I wouldn't say jail time and
maybe the fine, but put them in
457
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,440
jail really.
I mean, you know, let's, you
458
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,280
know, maybe a little fine just
to make sure you people don't
459
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,000
decide to do the same thing
again.
460
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,280
But it would depend on how
serious it was.
461
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,160
You know, it also depends on
what level you're at.
462
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,120
Like a guy like me, It's like
you said, it's marketing for me.
463
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,080
If someone's talking about any
of my books and they want to
464
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,680
write a blog, I'm.
Hey, thank you.
465
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,880
Go for it.
If an artist wants to draw my
466
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,320
characters and sell it as a
Commission at a show, I'm not
467
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,680
going to stop them.
But by law, can I?
468
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,440
Yeah, of course I can.
Anybody draws tragedy, I could
469
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,680
sit there and give them AC and
DA cease and desist what I know
470
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,600
because at my level it's really
helpful.
471
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,920
But even now with Marvel and DC,
I think as long as it's not more
472
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,080
than they would spend in
marketing, they'll let it go.
473
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,120
But when it comes to movies, it
could be damaging if you're
474
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,360
spoiling plot lines or
surprises.
475
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,680
I don't believe in jail time,
but I could see them legally
476
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,800
trying to see at least cease and
desist, you know?
477
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,880
But it was a kind of a harsh
penalty.
478
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,520
Or they can make them watch
Black Panther over and over and
479
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,760
over.
That would be torture.
480
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,880
That was boring movie.
I wrote notes.
481
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,080
I wrote notes the whole time.
I'm still bored.
482
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,640
So bored.
I'd rather clean public
483
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,960
bathrooms and watch a movie.
I really would.
484
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,480
My house is.
Messy over that.
485
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,480
You know what?
That.
486
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,480
Yeah.
You actually, that's an
487
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,680
interesting point, right, that
you were typing in that you were
488
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,560
bored or while you were
watching.
489
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,520
Yeah, because I'm writing the
review.
490
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,120
Let's say.
I said I'd review it.
491
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:48,560
Let's.
Say somebody that Disney.
492
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,560
Disney.
Wants to get it right, right in
493
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,600
Japan.
You can't, yeah, you can't be
494
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,360
talking about that will arrest
you and tell you.
495
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,600
Yeah, I didn't want to see it.
I didn't want to talk about it
496
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,120
either, you know, it's like.
But you're but but according to
497
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,600
them, they're saying that by
you're saying, oh, it's a boring
498
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,280
movie, I'm bored, you know, and
this.
499
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,920
Is why people are going to go on
Instagram, TikTok and watch
500
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,040
these influencers and they're
going to take over because
501
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,720
you're just driving people away
more and more.
502
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,720
You know there's a problem for
everything with these.
503
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,640
But that also opens up a big
problem too, though.
504
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,360
Because if you can get in
trouble for bad mouthing a
505
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:22,960
movie, what happens if you
badmouth my publishing company?
506
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,280
Do I get to sue you and throw
you in jail because you?
507
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,640
Is that some sort of defamation
of my company?
508
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,160
You know what?
I.
509
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,600
Mean.
So not only is it just bad
510
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,680
nothing, but you are, according
to Japan, you're taking away
511
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,680
money that would have been made.
But again, how can you prove
512
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,520
that?
You know that's that's you can't
513
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,040
prove loss until there's loss.
So that's in America.
514
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,080
That wouldn't fly.
Well, I mean criticism.
515
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,560
This is just a description.
He just just said what's going
516
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,560
to happen?
Godzilla destroys buildings like
517
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,440
wow, who the hell is going to
happen?
518
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Who?
Ruined the plot for.
519
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,240
Our guys.
So it's I think it's once again
520
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,560
a very interesting nuanced
thing, which might, I mean, it
521
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,360
is Japan, so it's a different
culture.
522
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,360
But if this happened here.
I think what would happen to all
523
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,160
these movie reviewers?
What are they going to do with
524
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,560
themselves, I mean.
It also.
525
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,400
Depends too.
Like you know, sometimes you get
526
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,400
an NDA and if you break the NDA
then you're subject to law.
527
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,240
But there's no NDA here.
He's just saying it was hard.
528
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,840
It wouldn't happen here in
America.
529
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,720
If we get to that point, we're
really in.
530
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,360
Trouble.
So his little fun tidbit.
531
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,720
I actually have managed to watch
a couple of movies that have not
532
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,000
come out yet.
I have not signed an NDA.
533
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,280
I have seen the Hot Wheels movie
John Cena, and I'm just saying
534
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,760
I've seen it and I'd be like,
but will my review or
535
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,440
description of that movie affect
people going to see a Hot Wheels
536
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,360
movie with John Cena and Jessica
Biel?
537
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800
Like if you just say there's a
Hot Wheels movie with John Cena
538
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,800
and Jessica Biel, who's going to
watch that movie?
539
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,520
But that's the same thing.
So I think it's very interesting
540
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,760
where the line was going to be.
And it all depends if this stuff
541
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,320
manages to make its way over to
the United States.
542
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,680
But in Japan, don't say nothing
about nothing.
543
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,600
Just.
Don't see a movie?
544
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,640
Increase censorship and scare
people.
545
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,160
And the other thing is, it's not
like they sent him a cease and
546
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,320
assist and he did not, you know,
he ignored it.
547
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,600
I mean, shouldn't he get some
sort of warning before?
548
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,040
Different culture, different I
know.
549
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,800
Especially since how you can't
prove punitive damages based on
550
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,560
speculation.
They're saying it's a spoiler
551
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,160
side.
They put a spoiler and it ruins
552
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,840
it, ruins the movie experience.
Well, they don't go to Japan.
553
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,160
How?
Many.
554
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,960
Times big movies come out and
they now everything is all on
555
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,200
the first weekend.
That's the biggest box.
556
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,960
Everybody cares about that first
week, nothing else.
557
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,920
And they go and they put on
don't put spoilers on the
558
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,480
Internet because they want
people to go and enjoy the movie
559
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,120
And people who would have the
movie spoiled, like I'm not
560
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,560
going to go watch it now because
they know how it ends, right?
561
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,280
So that does kind of qualify as
a.
562
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,880
Well, you know revenue, but
again, you have to prove it
563
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,240
though you have in a court of
law, you have to prove that you
564
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,640
lost that revenue.
Otherwise it's speculation and
565
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,120
the truth.
The truth is the reason why we
566
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,560
have these first weekends is
because those are the people
567
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,520
that love the movie experience
or they really die hard on that
568
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,480
and and they want to see it.
Everybody else is the casual
569
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,800
yeah, I want to see it, but I'd
rather see in the comfort of my
570
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,600
own home.
So I don't know if that really
571
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,160
the people that really want to
see it and see it, just like
572
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,720
people who are broke are still
going to find a way to charge
573
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,960
their card if they really want a
product.
574
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,040
You know, you find a way to to
get what you want and consume
575
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,120
what you want even when you
probably shouldn't.
576
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,360
You know, so anybody who says
they were turned off by a
577
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,480
review, they probably were never
going to go see it that first
578
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,880
weekend anyway.
So I remember before we take our
579
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,480
our break, I remember when I was
at the combo floor, I used to go
580
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,280
to New Academy Comic Book Arts
and Fantasy Illustration and one
581
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,400
of the guys there had had a
bootleg copy of RoboCop 3.
582
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,840
So he brought it in and we
watched RoboCop 3IN well in the
583
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,040
in the school I loved it and I
went and I bought myself a
584
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,320
ticket because I wanted to go
see it.
585
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,440
So I saw the movie and I still
wanted to pay.
586
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,040
It's kind of like people who buy
a digital comic, they like it
587
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,880
and now they want the physical.
They say, you know what, I want
588
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,840
to own it.
So right.
589
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,480
Right, right.
Right, so that is it for the
590
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,120
news.
So we're going to take a quick
591
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,480
break in front of a live studio
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592
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,360
We'll be right back before it
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593
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,000
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608
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,480
This is your host, Mark Torres
speaking.
609
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,680
I'm here in front of a live
studio audience at the East
610
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,240
Meadow Public Library for a
104th live show.
611
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,880
I'm with my Co host who just ran
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612
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,240
She'll be back in just a few
minutes.
613
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,800
But I'm here with Mr. Phil
Russert, who we're going to be
614
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,800
talking to with and about.
How you hope, good neighbors.
615
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,920
Phil, we've known you for quite
some time and you and you have
616
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:42,040
actually found your way to not
only have your own comic, but a
617
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,120
plethora of your own comic book
line.
618
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,600
And then you decide to take it
one step further.
619
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,760
And we've had you on the show
before when you announced that
620
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,560
you were doing a distribution
company.
621
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,920
Now you're doing a distribution
company.
622
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,840
And it's really successful.
It's doing quite well.
623
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,760
Like people are talking about
you people.
624
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,840
It's a small compact world.
It's a small world.
625
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,400
People know each other.
And your name is coming up to
626
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,360
people who, I don't know, know
you.
627
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,000
That's kind of.
Cool.
628
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,640
Can you?
Talk a little bit about how it
629
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,200
got so big.
Well, first let's talk about
630
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,720
what the distribution company is
and how do they get to where
631
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,280
it's at right now.
So we are worldwide distribution
632
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,600
same as Diamond, Lunar, all of
them obviously on a small scale.
633
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,560
We're about to hit our one year
anniversary of our first
634
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,200
catalog.
We specialize in the small press
635
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,800
that wasn't getting an
opportunity.
636
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Distribution worldwide is
basically direct market to the
637
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,680
stores, the comic book stores.
We have stores in Japan, Sweden,
638
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,440
UK, France, Germany, Australia,
Canada, Mexico and all over the
639
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,160
United States.
And we're growing.
640
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,480
And what we do is we put out our
catalog and we solicit to these
641
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,400
stores and we get small press
books out there the same way
642
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,160
Marvel and DC go through Lunar
and Universal and all all of
643
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,400
them.
Our terms are a little
644
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,280
different.
They're a little more fair
645
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080
across the board so that
publishers can succeed as well
646
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,360
as retailers.
And now we just added the print
647
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,080
on demand aspect, which actually
just makes it a one stop shop
648
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,280
for everybody.
We're creating our own.
649
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,440
I'm creating my own little
ecosystem within the industry
650
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,160
because a lot of middle men are
taking all the money.
651
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,120
The creators and the retailers
are not making any money.
652
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,520
And I wanted to create a system
where even though I'm
653
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,840
technically a middle man, I'm
not gouging prices, I'm keeping
654
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,120
them down.
I make a modest profit, but
655
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,320
everybody else can win as well.
And it's just healthy for the
656
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,600
industry overall if everyone is
walking away with a modicum of
657
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,400
success.
So even if you're a small
658
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,360
publisher and you sell five
books, you're still going to
659
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,600
make some money off that book as
opposed to being in the red on
660
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560
top of your production costs.
It gives the opportunity for
661
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,240
people to grow a fan base, get
out there across the world and
662
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,080
potentially get out of those
these echo chambers that we're
663
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,040
in on Kickstarter or on Facebook
that you have a chance to grow
664
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,920
your your IP, grow your
publishing company that you
665
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,000
didn't have before.
And of course, I have my own
666
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,560
publishing in print that I put
through my own distribution and
667
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,800
I'll be printing my own books.
So when I'm cutting out the
668
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,120
middle man for me, which
obviously helps me greatly, it's
669
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,600
really just a philosophy of
rising tides raise all ships.
670
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,680
I can still win and make a
profit and have a successful
671
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,200
business by making money with
everyone not off of them.
672
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,920
That's.
Awesome.
673
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,240
We've talked about Diamond.
Many times.
674
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,640
Yeah, because, you know, they're
they're pretty much done.
675
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,960
Phil, is is kind of taking a
little bit of that diamond
676
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,720
implosion for for yourself to
try and help out the independent
677
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,480
publishers.
Do you think you would have done
678
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,000
that had diamond not imploded in
such a glorious fashion?
679
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,960
Yes, I'm a very feisty Irishman
and I don't like being told I
680
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,000
can't get in the ring and fight.
Life is not a spectator sport.
681
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,720
I'm not going to watch you
fight.
682
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,360
I'm not asking for the hand to
hand me the belt, but you're
683
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,520
sure as hell not going to tell
me I can't fight for it.
684
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,000
I was looking at the industry
and how it's kind of gate kept
685
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,840
and and diamond and everything
and I said why?
686
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,360
Why am I relying on somebody
else for my future?
687
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,720
I was like, maybe I should start
this myself.
688
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,720
And then I found out through
people I know in the industry.
689
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,920
I know I'm a nobody who knows a
lot of somebody's.
690
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,280
The writing was on the wall and
I knew they were Diamond was
691
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,400
going to go down.
I even knew pretty much when.
692
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:16,600
So I decided to build the
infrastructure, get every store
693
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,520
in the world's, the list of
every store in the world, and
694
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,800
really build this up.
And I knew when Diamond was
695
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,040
going to announce their
bankruptcy.
696
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,679
So I announced my distribution
three weeks prior.
697
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,840
I even knew that they weren't
just going bankrupt, they were
698
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,760
going down.
I did tell a lot of people to
699
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,320
get their inventory out of
there.
700
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,600
Fortunately, I'm a nobody.
Nobody listened to me.
701
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,960
A lot of people lost their
inventory through Diamond, so
702
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,960
yes and no.
Yes, I was going to eventually
703
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,560
do it, but I think it was the
catalyst to do it as soon as I
704
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,199
did so.
When you are now a distribution
705
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,520
company, aren't you going to run
to the same problems that other
706
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,720
distribution companies do?
I mean, Diamond, as you
707
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,440
mentioned, was a gatekeeper.
So now isn't that upon you that
708
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,840
you're going to be like, I have
to decide what goes in my book,
709
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,560
what doesn't go in my book,
What's good enough to be
710
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,160
published to me?
What's not good enough to be
711
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,800
published?
To me, what reflects off of.
712
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,800
It's kind of the same thing that
Diamond does.
713
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,280
Not to their degree though
Diamond would would say we don't
714
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,760
think this art is sellable.
Art to me is objective, is
715
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960
subjective.
I'm not going to dictate whether
716
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,400
the art in your book is good
enough.
717
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,560
The only thing that we really
need a criteria of is the
718
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,360
professionalism of the product,
how it looks like.
719
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,280
You can't look like your 3 year
old did the logo and how is the
720
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,320
sequential storytelling.
I may not care for the art.
721
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,120
Art is subjective.
Some people love Bilson
722
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Kevitch's art and and think he's
a some don't.
723
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,120
Some love Mike Manola and don't
because he doesn't draw
724
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,600
shoulders.
You know, it's all subjective,
725
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,000
but if you can tell a story
properly through sequential
726
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,280
work, then let the free market
decide.
727
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,240
I'm not going to decide for you.
So our only criteria is that the
728
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,200
product has a professional logo
and look to it, the print
729
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,480
qualities professional and that
the sequential storytelling, you
730
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,480
know, is on par with what's on
the shelves.
731
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,880
And then if you like, if you,
I'm not a proponent of NSFW
732
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,040
really, but I'm not a, I'm not
going to censor it other than if
733
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,720
you have an NSFW cover, we want
you to black bag it because as a
734
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,360
parent especially, I don't want
my child walking in to pick up
735
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,800
Spider Man and there's a nude
cover right next to it.
736
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,240
I also think that hurts the
industry because that mother's
737
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,400
never coming back with her kid
into a comic store.
738
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,960
And that's really the the most
we gatekeep.
739
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,800
Other than that, I have terms
that are a little different
740
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,640
that, you know, I'm getting some
resistance from retailers like
741
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,680
we're a prepaid because Diamond
lost millions in unpaid
742
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,200
invoices.
And the reality of it is we are
743
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
not Marvel in DC.
And if you're a store owner and
744
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,960
we know that they struggle and
they're working hard to keep
745
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,320
their doors open and they just
got a $10,000 bill from from
746
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,840
Lunar or Universal and they got
the five or $600.00 bill from me
747
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,840
and their kidney to braces that
week or it was a bad month.
748
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,120
Someone's going to have to get
put to the side.
749
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,880
Who's that going to be?
It's going to be me.
750
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,320
Of course it's going to be me.
And I have an obligation to the
751
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,400
publishers as much as I do to
the retailers to make this work.
752
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,040
And the publishers, instead of
waiting 8 weeks to get paid out
753
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,720
or not getting paid out ever
because of a circumstance like
754
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:22,160
that, with my prepaid terms, the
stores are guaranteed to get
755
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,120
their books, but the publishers
are also guaranteed to get their
756
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,800
money.
And I think it's fair across the
757
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,960
board for everyone.
We have over 600 stores signed
758
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,920
up and they're fine with it.
They're fair with it is, you
759
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,640
know, some old school
resistance, which is
760
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,720
understanding.
I mean, they were getting a net
761
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:40,480
30 or net 60, which means they
get billed later, they get the
762
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,240
books and they don't have to pay
for 3060 days, which there's
763
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,880
nowhere else in retail that
really does that.
764
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,680
And they were getting or they
were getting free shipping, 50%
765
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,200
discounts.
So they were getting a lot in
766
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,160
their favor.
And when you're diamonds and
767
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,560
you're the monopoly and you have
the big name big companies,
768
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,240
that's fine.
But once they started to lose
769
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:00,280
Marvel and DC, you can't sustain
that model and you have small
770
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,360
and that's when they still have
bigger guys like Dynamite and
771
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,280
everything.
I don't even have guys that big.
772
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,160
I have Xenoscope and Auto Press,
et cetera, but we're not on that
773
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,280
level to where I can afford to
kind of throw that money out
774
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,200
there.
And I'm not a venture
775
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,520
capitalist.
We're going to be with the POD.
776
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,400
We're going to be giving better
incentives and more discounts to
777
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,000
these stores, but we're going to
keep the prepaid because we
778
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,360
think it's fair.
We've proven over the year that
779
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,400
you will get your, your, your
merchandise.
780
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,120
And if for whatever reason, you
know, a publisher falls through
781
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,920
and you don't get anything, we
will refund the money.
782
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,800
We have it there for you, You
know, so we've built a great
783
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,040
customer service relationship
with our stores over the past
784
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,320
year and they'll tell you the
same.
785
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,360
I think you mentioned toying
with this idea.
786
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,240
I'm going to say like two or
three years ago when you were
787
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:45,040
on.
What's the most difficult thing
788
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,640
about doing this, and what's the
most rewarding thing?
789
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Well, I'll start with rewarding.
Rewarding is that you get to see
790
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,120
people's dreams come true, even
on a small stage.
791
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Again, it's it's giving people a
channel, an opportunity to just
792
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,360
do something they didn't before.
Because as much as Kickstarter
793
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,120
is great, it's not really meant
to be an independent
794
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,720
distribution.
And that's what people started
795
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,080
using it for.
And it's imploding and
796
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Kickstarter has its algorithms
that bury you and, and, and
797
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,920
you're in an ecosystem, an echo
chamber and it's, it's
798
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,840
difficult.
So this it's, it's rewarding to
799
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,800
see publishers excited and
seeing opportunities that they
800
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,520
may not have had.
The hard part is I'm new, I'm
801
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,000
small, gaining respect, gaining
trust with retailers.
802
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,960
And you do tend to work with
some people that publishers that
803
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,040
have quality products, but maybe
they don't understand the
804
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,680
business yet and they're
learning as they go and you know
805
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,560
it.
It requires patience and
806
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,840
bandwidth on my part to to kind
of walk them through all of it
807
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,240
so I can help them be
successful.
808
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,640
Am I technically responsible for
that?
809
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,640
No.
But, you know, I want to see
810
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,840
everybody win, you know, so.
So since you are your own
811
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,280
publisher.
That does remind me of when
812
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Disney slash Marvel decided to
stop publishing certain comics
813
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,240
because they didn't own the
properties.
814
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,800
The Fox properties, the X-Men,
They decided to push that aside
815
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,840
because they're like, why should
I promote something that we
816
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,600
don't own entirely?
Do you have that conflict of
817
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,720
interest to promote your stuff
over somebody else's, and how do
818
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,480
you manage to deal with that?
And how do you manage to deal
819
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,600
with the backlash of someone
accusing you of that?
820
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,960
It's a great question.
Honestly.
821
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,840
I, I, I have a guy from
Argentina that is book night
822
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,400
that we put through a
distribution.
823
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,720
We do G Men comics, we have
Sergeant Flag and they both have
824
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:49,680
ads in all my tragedy books.
I promote all the time.
825
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,520
We do extra things that give
them covers on our catalog as
826
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,520
well as other independents.
So I mean, of course I'm pushing
827
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,800
my publishing hard, but I do try
to push them hard as well
828
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,880
because honestly, I just, my
name is on it for a reason and
829
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,720
they're relying on me for a
reason.
830
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:15,480
And I have this thing where I
feel responsible.
831
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,920
I'm putting them on my shoulder
to a degree in the distribution
832
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,240
aspect.
Like they, they, they're
833
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,080
successful on their own.
They're doing their own thing,
834
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,160
but they came to me to provide a
service and I would, I would
835
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,560
feel bad if I wasn't providing
that service properly.
836
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,920
So luckily I've never been
accused of not promoting.
837
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,160
But if they were to, then I
would have to take a look and
838
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,880
say, is there merit to this
accusation or not?
839
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,800
And then I'd have to sit and
have a conversation with them.
840
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,920
I would hope that that
accusation would be an internal
841
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,000
thing, of course.
But you know, as I was saying,
842
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,720
you can't please everybody all
the time, right?
843
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:53,000
So you just, it really depends
on the situation how it comes.
844
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,560
But so far I have a great
relationship with all the people
845
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,280
that I've been publishing.
And on the same logic line, if
846
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,440
for some reason your books
decide to not sell or you're not
847
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,520
doing well with your books, will
you still continue the
848
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,560
distribution?
Absolutely.
849
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,200
I didn't just do this
distribution for my own books.
850
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,520
To be honest with you, it
wouldn't have worked if it was
851
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,120
just tragedy by itself anyway.
You know, stores don't want to
852
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,600
order from individual publishers
because then they have 505,000
853
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,480
people to order from.
They need a distribution hub.
854
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,240
But this really take on its life
of its own.
855
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,360
I mean, when I started the
distribution, I had to say to
856
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,000
myself, how much of this is for
me and how much is this for
857
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,200
everybody?
And it really is the same thing
858
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:42,160
because the health of the
industry includes me.
859
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,600
And if I look short term, like
you ever go to a convention and
860
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,400
there's the carnival Barker guy
that's trying to push everybody
861
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,800
to get the sales.
He may have had a good show, but
862
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,320
every one of those people is
probably not coming back for a
863
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,600
sale because they felt pressured
into it or they felt
864
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,760
uncomfortable or they're going
to avoid that aisle.
865
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,520
So that's a short term game.
That's the grifter mentality
866
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,080
that has hurt the industry.
But if if I look at it as long
867
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,840
term growth, meaning the more I
do for the health of the
868
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,840
industry, I am now part of that
industry, it's going to trickle
869
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,240
down to me as well while I'm
helping others.
870
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:25,880
So I don't I don't buy into
that.
871
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,800
It's me or you like you have
your book designated.
872
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,840
You're not my competition.
You're my brother in arms.
873
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,480
You're in the community.
You're there's enough people to
874
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,120
go around that might like both
are books or maybe they like
875
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,360
your book and they don't like
mine.
876
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,360
But it's still the health of the
industry that we're building the
877
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,080
economy in the comic world.
We're we're getting readership
878
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,040
back and there are plenty of
readers that even if they don't
879
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,680
want my book and they want
yours, they may tell their
880
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960
cousin, hey, check out
designated.
881
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,840
And then by the way, I don't
really care for it.
882
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,280
But do you like this book
tragedy?
883
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080
It's you know what I'm saying?
It's this ripple effect.
884
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,960
You know, it's it's long term
growth through the health of the
885
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,520
industry will will not only help
other people, but it'll help
886
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,040
myself.
There's no reason to help my I
887
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,880
can't help myself and help
others equally.
888
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,320
And it's just a good thing
across the board because we want
889
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,680
readers back.
Jen question.
890
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,840
What's a book that was submitted
that you had to deny or any
891
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:29,320
topics that you had to deny?
I don't deny genre or topic, but
892
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000
I I hate, I hate when I, I have
to deny a submission.
893
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,680
I really, really hate it because
I feel bad.
894
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,040
I don't ever want to be the
reason someone doesn't pursue
895
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,280
their dreams.
But there have been people I've
896
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,800
had to turn away.
And it was the sequential
897
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,960
storytelling was just not there.
Like I felt the raw, the art was
898
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,200
raw and it, it wasn't my kind of
art, but that wasn't the reason.
899
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,760
It was stiff panels, couldn't
really follow what was going on.
900
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,760
There wasn't any energy or
dynamics in the comic.
901
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,760
And I have to look at that and
say, unfortunately, I don't
902
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,160
think this is a book that's
going to sell anything.
903
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,480
And I'm spending money to
onboard that book and to onboard
904
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,280
that person.
And I have to wave.
905
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,040
I have to put on the business
cap and take away the fan cap.
906
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,920
And I have to say, if I'm going
to spend this money and this
907
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,560
bandwidth and time to onboard
this person to get them out
908
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,120
there knowing that they're not
going to sell books, I have to
909
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,120
say, I'm sorry, I can't, you're
not ready yet.
910
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,680
And what I tell them in the
rejection letter is we are not
911
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,600
rejecting you.
We're telling you you're not
912
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,360
ready yet.
Come back to us when you get the
913
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,360
sequentials down.
And it's really based on the
914
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,600
sequential storytelling.
It just, it has to make sense.
915
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,080
It has to be cohesive.
There has to be a standard for
916
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,920
the storytelling aspect.
You know, who am I to say what's
917
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,400
good or bad?
I mean, now there is a, a level
918
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,320
of art that I have turned away
where it's the eye is here, the
919
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,720
eye is here, you know, I mean,
that's obviously just not ready.
920
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,800
And the other thing is AI, we
will not accept any written AI
921
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,840
or any art AI.
And we put everything, even if
922
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,840
we don't suspect through 2
engines.
923
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,480
And we've had some people that
would have got through if we
924
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,880
didn't do that because they
touched it up with AI.
925
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,760
We're not doing that.
AI is a no no for us at syllable
926
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,800
publishing and distribution.
And we make it clear, we're
927
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,680
sorry, but we do not accept AI
books.
928
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,880
And that's it.
And that includes if you had it
929
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,040
written by ChatGPT and you can
tell when it's written by
930
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,000
ChatGPT.
What?
931
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,000
About Putin, what if Putin
submitted a book or Trump would
932
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,560
you take a book from?
It's funny that you asked that
933
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,680
because I've had conversations
with Comicsgate people.
934
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,720
They're they're considered
conservative and right wing and
935
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,760
there's a there's this
ideological conflict.
936
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,760
Politically, I don't give a crap
about tribalism.
937
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,000
Comics are the thing that are
supposed to unite everybody,
938
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,680
whether you're a Biden fan or
Trump fan.
939
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,360
I don't care about all that in
the comic world.
940
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,040
It's about comics and
storytelling.
941
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,920
We are a business.
I am not here to censor or pick
942
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,520
sides.
I could easily have Erik Larson,
943
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,600
who is very liberal, put a book
through me and I could have
944
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,400
Ethan Van Sciver put a book
through me.
945
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:20,640
Their beliefs in politics do not
represent me.
946
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,080
I'm simply just a channel to put
their books out there and let
947
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,520
the free market decide who
should be bought or not and
948
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,000
that's it.
I'm not here to morally pass
949
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,440
judge on anybody because I'm not
God.
950
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,840
I'm just a distributor.
I'm the mailman.
951
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,200
Imagine your mailman said, I
can't deliver your mail because
952
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,480
you have a Trump sign or a Biden
sign.
953
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,640
I don't do that.
That's none of my business.
954
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,360
I don't even want to know.
Now, if you're an outright
955
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,280
racist or, or somebody and you
use language that is defamatory
956
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,360
and stuff like that, well then
no, I, I, I, I can't support
957
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,880
that.
You know what I mean?
958
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,080
I mean, there's one thing.
If you're writing a character in
959
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,080
a story that talks that way,
that's the character.
960
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,000
But if you yourself are speaking
that way online, then I
961
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,200
probably, I wouldn't, I wouldn't
deal with that because now you
962
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,880
are promoting a certain hate
that I have to kind of step in
963
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,680
and say I can't, I can't promote
that platform.
964
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,200
So how do you go about doing
that?
965
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,680
If you get a new submission, do
you go through all the social
966
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,000
media stuff and look?
Believe it or not, we do that.
967
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,360
Believe it or not, we do.
We go to your social media.
968
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,160
We look at what you're posting,
what you're doing.
969
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,000
I don't care if you post pro
Trump or pro Biden, but if you
970
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,360
were to sit there and use
extremely derogatory racist
971
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:41,440
remarks towards anybody or
promoting death, I'm not doing
972
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,560
that.
I'm not doing that.
973
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,640
I wouldn't wish death on anybody
and I don't want.
974
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,720
I just don't want to.
I also look at it like this.
975
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,880
I am now getting into a business
marriage with this person and I
976
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,520
don't know if that work is going
to work when if you're this kind
977
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,320
of person, you know, so we do,
we look at your social media, we
978
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,480
look at your platform, We, we
look at all that.
979
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,080
And if you're a retailer, we vet
you as well.
980
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,160
We look and see, you know, you
have to submit your tax ID
981
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,680
number, you have to submit a
website where you're selling
982
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,160
from.
And we have to look and see if
983
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,400
you're legit or not because
we're giving wholesale discounts
984
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,000
and we can't be giving it just
to the public.
985
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,160
It can't be just Bob who
pretends to be Bob's store
986
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,400
because he wants to get
everything at 4050% off.
987
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,480
So we vet everyone we have to.
How far back does the vetting
988
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:39,120
process go a year to year?
No, no, honestly, you know a
989
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,880
person in in the last probably
couple of months of what they're
990
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,040
posting to be honest with you
and I don't have the time to go
991
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,440
years back.
I'll go back a couple of months
992
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,440
if the, if it's very, if the
person's very benign over like
993
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,920
the 1st 20 posts, they probably
don't go any further.
994
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,160
But if you see something that
kind of red flags you, then you
995
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,840
look a little further and then
you look a little further.
996
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,760
I have people that help with
research and stuff like that.
997
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,920
We try not to like I said, we
try not to be partisan in any
998
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:14,640
way, you know, like bipartisan
where we're saying I don't agree
999
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,240
with your philosophy.
So blah, blah, blah.
1000
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,080
It's not about disagreeing with
the philosophy.
1001
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,960
It's it's are you, you know, it
would have to be extremism, you
1002
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,080
know, like hateful rhetoric,
damn, you know, harmful that
1003
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,160
would create violence.
Now you may say that's
1004
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,360
subjective.
No, I'm talking about actual
1005
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,640
saying that person should be
harmed in this way or that way.
1006
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,400
I'm not talking about someone's
opinion of they're a jerk or I
1007
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,960
don't agree with this.
That's you have a right to an
1008
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,840
opinion.
I know so.
1009
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,520
So we have about like 8 minutes
left.
1010
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,920
Let's talk about your books.
What books do you have going on
1011
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,200
here?
A lot.
1012
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,000
So we have a horror anthology,
Diary of Dread, which the
1013
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,720
storyboard artist of The
Creepshow TV show loved and said
1014
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:04,000
the last story actually
disturbed them.
1015
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,600
I was like, yes, I was told by a
horror fan that I must have some
1016
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,480
secret psycho in me.
But anyway, it sells very well.
1017
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,120
People enjoy it.
It's 156 page anthology in the
1018
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,680
vein of Tales from a Creep show,
and it's a fun, straight up gory
1019
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,440
horror book.
It's mature audience audiences.
1020
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,800
And then on the opposite side of
the spectrum, we have The
1021
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,840
Dynamics, which is a family of
superheroes and it's a book that
1022
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,600
a father or a mother can sit
down with their child and read.
1023
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:33,680
And I'm proud of that book
because you know, you look at
1024
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,280
Pixar books or whatever and some
or stories and sometimes to get
1025
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,000
the parent interested, they'll
throw in an innuendo and then
1026
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,640
that causes a question for the
kid, like what did that mean?
1027
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,680
And now the parents like, how do
I explain this?
1028
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,480
There's none of that in this
book.
1029
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,160
It's just a wholesome family
fun.
1030
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,760
It's funny, it's got action
adventure.
1031
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,040
And I highly recommend it.
If you have kids that don't like
1032
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,760
reading, it's a good gateway
into getting them maybe to start
1033
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,480
reading on some level.
You could sit with them and
1034
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,840
enjoy it.
Sorry, it was an accident.
1035
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,680
We have Papa, which is a very
personal tale to me.
1036
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:11,000
It's about a 75 year old Vietnam
vet who is protecting his family
1037
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,400
from the Yakuza and the Italian
mafia.
1038
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,760
I can't get into details.
It has a twist that yeah, it has
1039
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,560
a twist at the end of the the
first issue that catches
1040
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,520
everybody off guard.
Chuck Dixon, the writer of
1041
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,440
Batman, Punisher, Robin, he
wrote Nightfall, loves the book.
1042
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,280
He said the dialogue is very
real and he got caught off guard
1043
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,760
by the the twist.
So if you don't believe me, tell
1044
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,920
yes, Chuck.
It's a fun story, but it's also
1045
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,080
kind of goes into the sacrifices
that fathers and men make that
1046
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,600
go unnoticed and how men will
silently go to that job they
1047
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,120
hate, strap on those boots, do
what they got to do, even when
1048
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,480
they're working on their eternal
demons, and they'll still come
1049
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,360
home and answer that toy phone
for their daughter.
1050
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,360
You know, we don't get our
flowers on Father's Day.
1051
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,320
We BBQ our own meal.
You know, we love women.
1052
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,560
I appreciate women.
Without women, there'd be no
1053
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,560
life.
But I did want to just talk
1054
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,320
about men for a little while
because we make those silent
1055
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,080
sacrifices and we don't ask for
for anything in return.
1056
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,520
And I, I just want to do that.
And it's an honor.
1057
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,200
My dad had passed away.
He was bench pressing 165 lbs at
1058
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,680
77 years old in five weeks in
aggressive cancer took him and
1059
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,280
he didn't get to see the book
before he died.
1060
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,280
But he didn't get to read the
script and then he liked it.
1061
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,560
We have Arcane Syndicate which
is the Universal Monsters as a
1062
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,280
government agency that fights
supernatural threats that affect
1063
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,920
the world.
I was told that it was the most
1064
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,080
fun read a 40 year editor in
comics had in the last 20 years.
1065
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,880
We have withered, which is a
Long story short.
1066
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,280
It's angels versus demons.
But time is not a construct of
1067
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,600
our mind.
It's actually a significant
1068
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,280
being that imprisoned God.
And that's why the world is not
1069
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:56,400
perfect and we it satiates
itself off of our life energy.
1070
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,240
That's why we grow old, we
wither and we die.
1071
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,240
But the angels, archangels that
survived the war, actually
1072
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,920
recruit faithful people before
they die to be angels, to fight
1073
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,800
the war, to rescue God and bring
upon the utopia that we were
1074
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,040
supposed to have.
We've got Shaman is a telepath
1075
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,760
telekinetic that uses his
abilities.
1076
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,560
He's a son of a Baptist
minister.
1077
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,840
He uses them to heal people or
pharmaceutical companies losing
1078
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,400
a lot of money in that district.
So they have ties with the
1079
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,240
Mexican cartel, and they send
assassins to kill this kid.
1080
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,240
And even though he's powerful,
he's just a young boy, so he's
1081
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:34,640
scared and on the run.
We have Tragedy, which is my
1082
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,080
flagship title, which is an
Irish assassin that's living a
1083
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,920
life that she doesn't want to
live.
1084
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,440
She doesn't think she can have a
better life.
1085
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,480
She has issues with her adopted
father wanting and needing his
1086
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,880
love and respect while at the
same time hating him and herself
1087
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,120
for it.
But it deals with Chinese
1088
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:55,400
mysticism, monsters, metahumans,
assassins and Chuck Dixon, Peter
1089
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,840
David at Rest in Peace and
Howard Mackey said it's a really
1090
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,120
good book that is an ongoing
series in stores every month.
1091
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,280
We're on issue 8 with the crispy
cello cover, which is in stores
1092
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,840
as of today all.
Right, so we're almost out of
1093
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,720
time.
Social media.
1094
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:10,640
Where can people find out more
about you and your company?
1095
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,840
The best way is to Facebook my
Philip Rosser page because it
1096
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,800
beats all the algorithms for
having a business page.
1097
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,560
But you can also go Filbo
distribution, Filbo publishing,
1098
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,320
You'll find me everywhere if you
just Google me.
1099
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,960
We're all over the place.
We're in Comics B, we're in
1100
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,880
Bleeding cool, Bleeding Fool.
We, we're everywhere.
1101
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,360
We're on CBS, We're in, you
know, we're in a lot of
1102
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:30,680
different.
Publications.
1103
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,080
Yeah, no, we were, we were, we
were all over.
1104
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,840
We were.
Yes, we were even on Fox, we
1105
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,920
were on, we were on IGN, not
IGN.
1106
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,320
I forgot that.
What's the business?
1107
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,400
Facebook, LinkedIn.
LinkedIn did an article on us.
1108
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,800
So we're we're all over the
place Go.
1109
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,840
So check us out.
All right, so you were kind
1110
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,680
enough to raffle off number ones
of all your of all your books?
1111
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,080
Right.
Yes, every single book we've
1112
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,600
done, I've done.
And we're also raffling off 2
1113
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,000
tickets to the Elite Comic Expo,
which is at the end of this
1114
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,240
month at St.
John's University.
1115
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,760
And they have a special guest,
Jim Lee is going to be there on
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Sunday.
So do you want to do the books
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first or do you want the tickets
to the convention first?
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Or do you want to do as a both?
However you want to do is fine
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you.
Only guess, you decide.
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I guess you can raffle off the
books first, books first.
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The winner is going to get all
the books here.
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All right.
All right.
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And the winner?
Is the winner is Thank you, I'm
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blind 376739. 376739 All right,
give you the book at the end of
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the show.
We'll do that in one minute.
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And now for the passes to the
Elite 511 Expo.
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It's 2 tickets, so it's one
winner, yeah.
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Yeah, it's one winner, OK.
And that is what number?
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Winner is 376743. 7434343 give
it.
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He doesn't want to go, so I
guess we'll just hold off on
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that.
All right, All right, so almost
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out of time.
Final thought.
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I just want to say support
independent publishing because
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it is not the stigma of back to
the catalog.
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You think a lot of them are even
working with former Marvel DC
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00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,720
people.
You're going to get passionate
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storytelling for the sake of
storytelling, not agenda driven,
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not corporate driven.
And you'd be surprised you might
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00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,800
find that title that becomes the
next thing that you're really
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excited to to to read.
So support independence and go
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check out
www.filbodistribution.com.
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Jen, do you have a final thought
from over there?
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Respect is the foundation of all
relationships.
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Agreed so my final thought is
this thank you for being a guest
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on the show.
Like I said we've known you for
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a long time.
It's really cool that you've
1147
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from where you started to where
you're at.
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It's an amazing journey and I
hope the journey continues on.
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Thank you so that about does it
for this week on the camp on the
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radio.
Join us right here any week on
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00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,920
this radio station.
If you made any part of the
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show, go to our website
www.acampradio.com and archives
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00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,840
will be off any week or so.
Our next live show in front of a
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live studio audience will be on
Wednesday, June 10th at 7:00 PM
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Eastern Standard Time.
And we will have award-winning
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musical theatre writer and
performer SAR Kaufman.
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And they will be giving, oh
we're giving away 2 tickets to
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the Long Island Trick
Convention.
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And they're also giving a book,
a book that they autographed.
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So what's that?
We'll see you all next time.
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You have been listening to It
Came from the Radio with Mark
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Torres.
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We now return you to your
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Khan, this is your host, Mark
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I'm here live in front of it
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Hello everyone.
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We're going to be talking to
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He is comic book creator and
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comic book distributor Phil
Russert.
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Hello, thanks for having me.
So as I mentioned, we're going
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All right, so as always, we
always start off with the sad
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news.
Let's see what we have here.
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One of the original creators of
the he Man toy designer Roger
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Sweet, died recently after he
was moved to A to a memory care
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facility earlier this year.
He was 91.
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Roger Sweet, you're a fan of he
Man Jen, you know, do you know
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of he Man?
You should know him.
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So the guy who created the toy
he man was turned into the
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manager franchise.
He was the one that made it and
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he passed away.
Do you have any other words on
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your experience with He Man?
Did you play with He Man Shira?
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Maybe you just knew it existed.
I know it existed fast.
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Lifeline.
Lifeline.
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So I was a big fan of the comic
books that came the first
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storyline that came out with the
figures before the cartoon.
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So the Barbarians.
Yeah.
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It's it's funny, I do remember I
was a human fan.
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I still am, I guess occasional
he man.
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I am concerned about the movie.
I have not seen a trailer yet.
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The live action movie.
A little worried about it, but
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we'll just wait and see what.
Concerns you?
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Well, I mean the last live
action He man was a really bad
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movie.
Oh, really?
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So I'm worried that this is
going to be the same way.
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I I I have not seen any
trailers, but I'm just concerned
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that they're not going to have
enough of eternity and he man
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stuff.
And as as you may not know, the
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villain is played by Jared Leto.
And Jared Leto is box office
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poison because the last couple
movies he's been in has.
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Tanked for his own.
You know what?
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Though I like his stuff.
That's that's the thing.
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That's where I don't care what
society thinks because I saw him
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in the Gucci movie.
He was the best part.
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He I think he won't like a
Razzie for worst actor.
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The.
Best part of the entire thing?
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Requiem.
He was a phenomenal.
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I saw a little of this Joker
thing with Harley Quinn.
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He was great.
What's the problem?
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So what, he has a cult?
Well, the problem, like I said,
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the problem is that his his
movies that he decides to work
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on make no money so.
That was.
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Usually the voice of Skeletor,
at least.
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Even I am, like I said, I'm
concerned.
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But I remember when I was a kid
and the He Man toy came out of
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the the animated series, the
filmation series, and I was
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like, what the hell is this?
Because I was a fan of the
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barbarian.
It was a roaming barbarian.
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It had a different sorceress.
Yeah.
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It had a different mythology
than what the cartoon was.
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And I'm watching this and I'm
like, well, this is some crap.
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But I gave it some chance.
And as a kid, it won me over.
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And I and I became a fan of both
versions of He Man ever since.
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Well, you know, Dark Horse did
an omnibus of those original
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comics, so that's pretty cool.
So he was 91.
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So moving on more sad news,
actor Donald Richard Gibb also
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died recently after quote a long
illness.
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While Donald was in a handful of
movies and TV shows, he is
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perhaps best remembered for his
role as Ray Jackson in the Van
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Damme film Blood Sport and his
sequel Blood Sport Part 2, as
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well as Ogre, whose real name in
this show was Frederick and
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Luwasis Palawski and three of
the four Revenge of the Nerd
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films.
He was 71.
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Did you ever watch Revenge and
Nerds?
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Yeah.
Do you remember Ogre?
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The big guy?
The big bad guy.
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You know what I I forgot
everything.
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I forget a lot of things like
you know, listen, you want to
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talk health or psychology or
something on the show, I'm your
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girl.
If you want me to talk about, I
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never know like you know the.
Movie revenge and nerds.
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Yeah, I forgot, though.
I saw it like 30 years ago, you
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know?
I mean, like, you know, I forgot
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how I clipped my toenails 30
years ago.
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I don't remember.
I don't know.
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So you a fan of a resident?
I remember well, yes.
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Well, thank God someone does.
You know, I maybe I should be in
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the memory care unit.
You know how was men?
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How was of the generation where
you were too young to see your
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parents showed it to you anyway
so.
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I do remember just the fact that
he was over and that's just who
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he became.
And so I always whenever I see
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him in any other TV show or
movie or anything like, hey,
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it's over.
I was like seeing people get
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jobs.
And when he did the Van Damme
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movie Bloodsport, he was the big
burly guy who was Van Damme's
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friend in the movie.
He was like hey Ogre is is moved
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on and in the in the course of
the nerds world, it actually
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turns out that he was a closet
nerd.
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And in part 4 he came out as a
nerd and he was part of the
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group.
So they won him over from the
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the the the villain in the 1st.
Movie.
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Yeah, I didn't make it to four.
I got through the 1st 2:00.
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And that was it.
You didn't see 3. 9.
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So he was 71.
So then we move on to the last
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bit of sad news writer Gerald
Francis Conroy Conway.
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Sorry.
The letter known as just Jerry
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Conway also died recently from
pancreatic cancer.
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Jerry was a comic writer and Co
created such characters as The
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Punisher, Ben Riley, Firestorm,
Power Girl and Jason Todd just
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named a few.
Jerry also wrote such films as
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Fire and Ice which I love that
movie Conan the Destroyer which
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I did not know.
He wrote and worked on such TV
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shows as GI Joe, Real American
Hero, the original Transformers
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cartoon, the Centurions, My
Little Pony, dinosaurs, Dino
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writers follow darling
mysteries.
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I was with Tom Bosley, Batman
the Animated Series, Spider Man,
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the Animated Series, Hercule
Legendary Journeys and Law and
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Order, Criminal Intent, just to
name a few.
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He was 73.
I I knew he was a comic by I had
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no idea he did all this other
stuff.
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You're a fan of any?
Of those things, yeah, plenty of
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them.
What was your you remember fire
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and hifi I used to love?
That's one of my favorite
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animated stories, so absolutely.
I would like to see him do a
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mash up of the My Little Pony
with Law and Order, say
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combining those crossovers.
That would be really cool.
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It's funny you mentioned that
because there is a movie out
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now.
I think it's out now that Hugh
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Jackman is in it, and he plays a
sheep herder, an animal herder,
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and all the animals are talking
sheep, detective.
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Yeah.
And they're trying to solve his
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murder.
So they.
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That's close enough, right?
Yeah.
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Something like that.
So he was 73.
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So that's it for the sad news.
So moving on to the not as sad
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news from the department.
The new Devil Wears Prada sequel
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has taken the number one spot in
the domestic box office, pulling
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in an additional $41.6 million
in ticket sales in its second
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weekly release, beating out the
new Mortal Kombat sequel which
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came in the number two spot,
making $38.5 million in its
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first release.
So those of you keeping track,
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the Super Mario Brothers Movie
is the highest grossing film of
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this year with 412 point $6
million, followed by Project
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Hail Mary with $328.9 million.
Phil Devil Wears Prada Yes No.
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Couldn't careless.
Hail Mary.
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Prada.
Kale, Mary.
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I didn't see it yet.
I heard it was really good
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though.
And Super Mario, did you see
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that?
No, I didn't.
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Jen.
I want to see My dad wants to
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see Devil Wears Prada in
theaters.
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Your dad wants?
Yeah, my dad.
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Yeah, my dad's funny.
But I, I wonder if with the
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Devil Wears Prada or the hell
would be too hot, maybe the
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clothes would burn off, you
know, like, like does Zevil wear
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clothing?
You know, I'm just letting you
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go.
Would they wear Prada?
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Gucci.
Maybe they would shop at
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Marshalls, get a deal.
Maybe they would steal clothing.
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Maybe they would steal Prada.
Maybe.
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Maybe, definitely, there's a
fashion diva in disguise.
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Did you see the 1st?
Movie I did.
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Yeah, I did.
Do you?
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Like the first.
Yeah, I like that this.
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One, did you think it needed a
sequel?
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Do you know what happens to
these characters?
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You know what?
I forget every movie, so I don't
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really know what the hell
happened.
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I kind of remember you.
Know.
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I just like put on movie and
it's an experience.
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It's like eating, you know?
It's like, OK, I kind of, you
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know, disassociated.
Enjoyed it for the moment and
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then.
Yeah, unless I have to interview
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someone, I kind of just space
out, get into the vibe.
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But I couldn't tell you what
happened at 4 minutes in or
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unless it's my job and then I'll
really pay attention.
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I got enough scripts to pay
attention.
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If I put a movie on it, it's
like, alright, isn't my free.
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Let's like space out and July,
you know?
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Yeah.
It.
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Makes sense?
Yeah.
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Yeah, it makes.
Sense.
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Placement.
Moving on from the there's
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literally a video of him saying
IT department.
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Well, none other than Disney and
James Cameron are being sued by
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actress Oh boy Curia, Oh Boy
QORIANKA Kiryanka Kilcher 4
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quote unauthorized use of her
likeness and foundation in
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Natiri in the film Avatar.
According to the documents, she
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alleges that when she was 14 and
she had recently appeared in
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Pocahontas in the film The New
World, James extracted her
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facial features from a published
photograph and directed his team
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to use it as foundation for the
character.
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In the cheery and Avatar Cheery
would be the main lead, which is
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Zoe Saldan lawyer says
Curianca's likeness.
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I'm sorry I'm messing up your
name was replaced in production
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sketches was replicated in
production sketches, sculpted
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into 3 dimensional marquettes,
laser scan into high resolution
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digital models and distributed
across multiple visual effects
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vendors forms to characters
image.
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The image was later seen in
theatres, on posters, in
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merchandise, across sequels and
re releases without her
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knowledge or consent.
What Cameron did was not
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inspirational, it was
extraction.
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He took the unique biometric
facial features of a 14 year old
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and indigenous girl, ran through
an industrial production process
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and generated billions of
dollars in profit with however
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once asking her permission.
This is not filmmaking, this is
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death.
Now here's the thing.
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Apparently before the film was
ever made, James met or, or oh
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boy yes met Q at an event.
He then personally invited her
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to visit his office.
One week later, Cameron was out
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and a member of his staff
presented her with a framed
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print of a sketch James had
made.
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Attached to the print was a
handwritten note from James
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reading quote.
Your beauty was my early
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inspiration from Naturi.
Too bad you were shooting
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another movie.
Next time, Now there's a video
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online right now you can go and
see James Cameron talking about
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behind the scenes that he
clearly points out that that
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girl and that picture that he
used is the use for the basis
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for the movie.
He's like, that's my character,
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Go make her this, Priyanka says.
You want to read that?
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When I received Cameron's
sketch, I believed it was a
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personal gesture at most, the
loose inspiration tied to
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casting and my activism.
Millions of people opened their
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hearts to Avatar because they
believed in its message, and I
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was one of them.
I never imagined that someone I
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trusted was systematically used
my as part of an elaborate
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design process and integrated
into a product pipeline without
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my knowledge of her consent.
That crosses a major line.
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This act is deeply wrong.
It is deeply disturbing to learn
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that my face as a 14 year old
girl was taken and used without
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my knowledge or consent to help
create a commercial asset that
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has generated enormous value for
Disney and Cameron.
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So she seeks compensatory and
punitive damages, profits
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available to the use of her
likeness, including injunctive
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relief and corrective public
disclosure.
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Now, I find this to be a very
interesting topic because I can
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actually see both sides of the
argument.
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This is because, as you know,
Jen, we have you as a cover in
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my book, right?
And when I created my
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characters, when I originally
told the artist way back when,
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30 years ago, I told the artist
my lead is going to be like a
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Britney Spears type.
So I envisioned Britney Spears,
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if I had the money at the time
to hire Britney Spears, she
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would have been back then.
So the artist took his to, oh,
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Britney Spears and he do, it
doesn't look anything like
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Britney Spears.
But that was always my idea.
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And so anytime any other artist
was to draw my character, I
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always said she was my
envisioner for Britney Spears.
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So then, as you were very well
aware, we talked about you
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cosplaying as my character.
You had the outfit, you had a
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wig.
You took pictures of the outfit
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and the wig.
I then took those pictures of
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you and the outfit and the wig
and sent it to the cover artist
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Russ Braun, who works on the
Boys, and said, hey, Russ, this
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is what the Krautfit looks like.
I invented her to look like
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Britney Spears.
And I also sent her a picture.
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I sent him a picture of Elijah
Cuthbert from 24 and a specific
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pose.
And I said this is the idea I
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have for a pose, this is what I
want, and I sent it to Russ.
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All that without giving consent
to Britney Spears, without
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giving consent to Elijah
Cuthbert, without any of that.
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And then he drew.
Well, luckily it looks like me,
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but that's the thing, so.
Thank God, so we actually got.
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Nothing like Britney Spears.
I actually had talked to Russ
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about the cover for issue 1 and
a lot of people have said that
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you look like this on the cover.
I was like, well, that wasn't
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the intent.
However, he did use the pitcher
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as reference.
My question is, I don't know the
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law, but they turned her into a
blue alien, so they're not
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actually using her exact
likeness.
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And there's Oma, there's like
homage, there's parody laws,
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there's a lot of laws.
So I don't know the law, but
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it's one thing if like the AI
digitally made it her, it's
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another if they used her as a
reference and made an alien.
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So I don't know if they have a
case or.
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Not because it's not her, but
the problem is it is her,
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according to James Cannon's
video.
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That.
As a as a reference.
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He said that she.
Wasn't, but her face is not the
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final rendition because it's an
alien.
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Right, but his exact words was
this is Najiri, he said.
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But what I mean, I mean, I don't
know the law, but I don't know
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if he did anything illegal as my
I don't know if he needed her
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legal permission and she's just
a reference.
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I don't know.
And that's the question, how
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much, how far do you go from the
reference or how far do you go
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like, oh, I want to make, I'm
going to make.
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There was a movie that you did
when you're a radio person, the
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movie.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That they said that they wrote
the script specifically for you.
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Oh.
Yeah, right.
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Yeah.
What?
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Was the name of the movie.
Ed the airwaves.
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Next month, yeah.
OK.
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So they said that specifically
for you.
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They said it was written for
you, and let's say they got
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somebody else.
Yeah, well, that's.
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In the movie, but they're
saying, oh, it was you.
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So you have the ability to be
like, hey, you said it was for
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me.
You specifically said this is
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me.
Yeah.
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Do you have grounds for or what
are your thoughts on that whole?
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Well, that would be different
because that would be the whole
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script is written based on me
and then you give it to someone
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else, which actually, if
someone, you know who sent me a
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message after I watched the
petty Lamar documentary, I'm
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like this.
I'm afraid of people stealing my
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ideas.
And two people told me, watch
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out for someone, you know this
guy.
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And he said, Oh, he's going to
steal ideas.
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And I get a voice message one
day.
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Hey, I think I'm going to do
what we did together and do with
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some other people in the
islands.
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Like, no, it's my idea, it's my
concept, it's my everything.
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And all he did was hold the
camera.
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So, you know, whatever there's
there's all different levels of
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nuance.
But you know, I guess we'll have
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to see what the law is.
But I guess I I'm not litigious,
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but if someone's saying on
video, hey, we're taking your
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face and they have bazillions
dollars.
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I mean it's beyond millions.
I'm sure it's fine to the
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billions.
I'm sure they could throw her a
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few thousand for her face.
You know, you're saying it on
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camera, you know, and give her
something, you know, a couple
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cents, like come on, you know,
and I'm not someone who would
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like ask for it.
I'm pretty generous.
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I'm like deep fake me, I don't
care.
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So we haven't had an official
response from Disney or James
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Cameron.
And the reason why Disney is
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involved is because Disney
bought Fox, Fox was Avatar and
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James Cameron.
So we haven't heard from them
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yet.
But we do know that Disney loves
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this type of thing where they're
like, you know, no money for
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nobody.
And if you remember, they had,
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we were talking about the, the
lady that got the, that died in
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the, the the amusement park with
the food poisoning.
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And they were like, oh, that
they would try to sue Disney.
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And they're like, oh, no, you
don't, we don't.
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You can't sue us because it was
a self standing eatery in Disney
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World was a big thing.
And Disney has also notoriously
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have not allowed people to use
their characters on Tombstone or
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like, so Disney, this is bad for
Disney, but it is James Cameron
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who is his own person.
So I think it's very
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interesting.
And where would it go?
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And.
I.
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I think it's on on the side that
he doesn't have to, but he
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should, right?
I think he should give up.
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And he made a giant bag of money
off of it.
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If there's AI mean morally,
yeah, yeah.
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If there's a loophole in the
law, I would imagine it's
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because it's not actually her.
It's they use as a reference and
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it's a digital alien.
That might be a loophole.
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I don't know the law.
That might be the same way they
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use that.
Oh, that's a free standing
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business on our property.
It's well, it's it's based on
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her, but it's actually this blue
alien.
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Is she a blue alien?
So you know, they have the top
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notch lawyers, you know, so
they'll know every every angle
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to take I'm.
Sure.
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Well you do that as well.
Some of your characters are
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based you have the tragedy is
based on your wife right
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personality.
Wise, but.
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The but.
The Tyler, the Tyler Kirkham
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cover.
Actually, he never saw my wife,
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but it looks a lot like her.
So let's say some reason she
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decides to sue the artist be
like, hey, that was that's me.
400
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,160
Where's my cut?
Or is it because you, I mean,
401
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,000
you did say?
I think morally she should get
402
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,240
something right.
Again.
403
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,440
Courts are moral.
The law is not about morality,
404
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,600
it's about how to bend it and
how to break it.
405
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,920
So Speaking of the law is
another crazy one from the
406
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,640
That's one way to stop people
from spoiling a movie
407
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,440
department.
In Japan, copyright and
408
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,080
intellectual property laws can
be quite different than those in
409
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,160
North America.
So a 39 year old man named
410
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,960
Waturu Tenchikui posted a
detailed description of Godzilla
411
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:53,120
-1 story from early 2023 to
2024, which got him arrested and
412
00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:57,800
sentenced to a year and a half.
In prison was a $1 million yen,
413
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:03,560
which is about $6000 US fine.
Japan's Overseas Distribution
414
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,960
Association, or quota for short,
says numerous websites that
415
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,640
extract texts from movies and
other content have been
416
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,280
identified and are considered
problematic as so-called spoiler
417
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,160
sites.
While these actions tend to be
418
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,680
perceived as less serious than
piracy sites or illegal uploads
419
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,440
that upload content that upload
the content itself, they are
420
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,120
clear copyright infringements
that go beyond the scope of Fair
421
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:32,480
use and are serious crimes.
The problem with websites that
422
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,960
extract tests from movies or
other content is that they
423
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,520
reduce the willingness to pay
fair price for the content,
424
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,760
leading people to not watch the
official full length movies and
425
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,800
causing significant damage to
right holders.
426
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,160
Furthermore, the act of
infringing on content creators
427
00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:50,320
that have harvested time, effort
and money in producing and
428
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,880
unfairly obtaining advertising
revenue from such sites is
429
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,480
extremely malicious and should
never be tolerated.
430
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,480
CODA will closely monitor the
details of this case as they
431
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,960
unfold during future
investigations and criminal
432
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,320
trials and will continue to
strive for the proper protection
433
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,160
of copyrights and implement
effective measures against
434
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,680
similar websites.
This activity was conducted as
435
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,040
part of a project commissioned
by the Ministry of Economy,
436
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,760
Trade and Industry.
So Jen, what do you think of
437
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,560
somebody spoiling a movie online
and getting arrested and thrown
438
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,760
in jail with a fine?
Absolutely stupid.
439
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,240
First of all, I've never heard
this but I don't believe in
440
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,000
spoilers because again, I see
movie watching and things as an
441
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,480
experience.
I will not have the experience
442
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,920
no matter how much you describe.
Like I heard it and I heard
443
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,120
human centipede described by by
two people and I feel like I've
444
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:45,640
seen it and I I still I don't
want to see either one because
445
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,720
whatever, I don't, I don't want
to see the such hard, but it's
446
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,800
not the same.
And this is absolutely
447
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,640
ridiculous.
Anything it's advertising.
448
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,200
I can see if they're taking
pictures and screenshots, but a
449
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,520
description to me that's that's
free promotion.
450
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,720
So this is nuts to me.
What are your thoughts?
451
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,160
Well, as an IP creator myself,
it would really depend on what I
452
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,040
would want to keep under wraps.
And if you're blowing that, if
453
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,840
you're, if you're spoiling
something that you want to keep
454
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,840
under wraps and you feel it
could hurt the film, I can see
455
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,040
you wanting to pursue some sort
of punitive damage.
456
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,640
But I wouldn't say jail time and
maybe the fine, but put them in
457
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,440
jail really.
I mean, you know, let's, you
458
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,280
know, maybe a little fine just
to make sure you people don't
459
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,000
decide to do the same thing
again.
460
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,280
But it would depend on how
serious it was.
461
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,160
You know, it also depends on
what level you're at.
462
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,120
Like a guy like me, It's like
you said, it's marketing for me.
463
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,080
If someone's talking about any
of my books and they want to
464
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,680
write a blog, I'm.
Hey, thank you.
465
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,880
Go for it.
If an artist wants to draw my
466
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,320
characters and sell it as a
Commission at a show, I'm not
467
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,680
going to stop them.
But by law, can I?
468
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,440
Yeah, of course I can.
Anybody draws tragedy, I could
469
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,680
sit there and give them AC and
DA cease and desist what I know
470
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,600
because at my level it's really
helpful.
471
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,920
But even now with Marvel and DC,
I think as long as it's not more
472
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,080
than they would spend in
marketing, they'll let it go.
473
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,120
But when it comes to movies, it
could be damaging if you're
474
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,360
spoiling plot lines or
surprises.
475
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,680
I don't believe in jail time,
but I could see them legally
476
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,800
trying to see at least cease and
desist, you know?
477
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,880
But it was a kind of a harsh
penalty.
478
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,520
Or they can make them watch
Black Panther over and over and
479
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,760
over.
That would be torture.
480
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,880
That was boring movie.
I wrote notes.
481
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,080
I wrote notes the whole time.
I'm still bored.
482
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,640
So bored.
I'd rather clean public
483
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,960
bathrooms and watch a movie.
I really would.
484
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,480
My house is.
Messy over that.
485
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,480
You know what?
That.
486
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,480
Yeah.
You actually, that's an
487
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,680
interesting point, right, that
you were typing in that you were
488
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,560
bored or while you were
watching.
489
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,520
Yeah, because I'm writing the
review.
490
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,120
Let's say.
I said I'd review it.
491
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:48,560
Let's.
Say somebody that Disney.
492
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,560
Disney.
Wants to get it right, right in
493
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,600
Japan.
You can't, yeah, you can't be
494
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,360
talking about that will arrest
you and tell you.
495
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,600
Yeah, I didn't want to see it.
I didn't want to talk about it
496
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,120
either, you know, it's like.
But you're but but according to
497
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,600
them, they're saying that by
you're saying, oh, it's a boring
498
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,280
movie, I'm bored, you know, and
this.
499
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,920
Is why people are going to go on
Instagram, TikTok and watch
500
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,040
these influencers and they're
going to take over because
501
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,720
you're just driving people away
more and more.
502
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,720
You know there's a problem for
everything with these.
503
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,640
But that also opens up a big
problem too, though.
504
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,360
Because if you can get in
trouble for bad mouthing a
505
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:22,960
movie, what happens if you
badmouth my publishing company?
506
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,280
Do I get to sue you and throw
you in jail because you?
507
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,640
Is that some sort of defamation
of my company?
508
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,160
You know what?
I.
509
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,600
Mean.
So not only is it just bad
510
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,680
nothing, but you are, according
to Japan, you're taking away
511
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,680
money that would have been made.
But again, how can you prove
512
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,520
that?
You know that's that's you can't
513
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,040
prove loss until there's loss.
So that's in America.
514
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,080
That wouldn't fly.
Well, I mean criticism.
515
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,560
This is just a description.
He just just said what's going
516
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,560
to happen?
Godzilla destroys buildings like
517
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,440
wow, who the hell is going to
happen?
518
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Who?
Ruined the plot for.
519
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,240
Our guys.
So it's I think it's once again
520
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,560
a very interesting nuanced
thing, which might, I mean, it
521
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,360
is Japan, so it's a different
culture.
522
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,360
But if this happened here.
I think what would happen to all
523
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,160
these movie reviewers?
What are they going to do with
524
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,560
themselves, I mean.
It also.
525
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,400
Depends too.
Like you know, sometimes you get
526
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,400
an NDA and if you break the NDA
then you're subject to law.
527
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,240
But there's no NDA here.
He's just saying it was hard.
528
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,840
It wouldn't happen here in
America.
529
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,720
If we get to that point, we're
really in.
530
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,360
Trouble.
So his little fun tidbit.
531
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,720
I actually have managed to watch
a couple of movies that have not
532
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,000
come out yet.
I have not signed an NDA.
533
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,280
I have seen the Hot Wheels movie
John Cena, and I'm just saying
534
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,760
I've seen it and I'd be like,
but will my review or
535
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,440
description of that movie affect
people going to see a Hot Wheels
536
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,360
movie with John Cena and Jessica
Biel?
537
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800
Like if you just say there's a
Hot Wheels movie with John Cena
538
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,800
and Jessica Biel, who's going to
watch that movie?
539
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,520
But that's the same thing.
So I think it's very interesting
540
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,760
where the line was going to be.
And it all depends if this stuff
541
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,320
manages to make its way over to
the United States.
542
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,680
But in Japan, don't say nothing
about nothing.
543
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,600
Just.
Don't see a movie?
544
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,640
Increase censorship and scare
people.
545
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,160
And the other thing is, it's not
like they sent him a cease and
546
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,320
assist and he did not, you know,
he ignored it.
547
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,600
I mean, shouldn't he get some
sort of warning before?
548
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,040
Different culture, different I
know.
549
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,800
Especially since how you can't
prove punitive damages based on
550
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,560
speculation.
They're saying it's a spoiler
551
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,160
side.
They put a spoiler and it ruins
552
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,840
it, ruins the movie experience.
Well, they don't go to Japan.
553
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,160
How?
Many.
554
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,960
Times big movies come out and
they now everything is all on
555
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,200
the first weekend.
That's the biggest box.
556
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,960
Everybody cares about that first
week, nothing else.
557
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,920
And they go and they put on
don't put spoilers on the
558
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,480
Internet because they want
people to go and enjoy the movie
559
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,120
And people who would have the
movie spoiled, like I'm not
560
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,560
going to go watch it now because
they know how it ends, right?
561
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,280
So that does kind of qualify as
a.
562
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,880
Well, you know revenue, but
again, you have to prove it
563
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,240
though you have in a court of
law, you have to prove that you
564
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,640
lost that revenue.
Otherwise it's speculation and
565
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,120
the truth.
The truth is the reason why we
566
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,560
have these first weekends is
because those are the people
567
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,520
that love the movie experience
or they really die hard on that
568
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,480
and and they want to see it.
Everybody else is the casual
569
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,800
yeah, I want to see it, but I'd
rather see in the comfort of my
570
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,600
own home.
So I don't know if that really
571
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,160
the people that really want to
see it and see it, just like
572
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,720
people who are broke are still
going to find a way to charge
573
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,960
their card if they really want a
product.
574
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,040
You know, you find a way to to
get what you want and consume
575
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,120
what you want even when you
probably shouldn't.
576
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,360
You know, so anybody who says
they were turned off by a
577
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:39,480
review, they probably were never
going to go see it that first
578
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,880
weekend anyway.
So I remember before we take our
579
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,480
our break, I remember when I was
at the combo floor, I used to go
580
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,280
to New Academy Comic Book Arts
and Fantasy Illustration and one
581
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,400
of the guys there had had a
bootleg copy of RoboCop 3.
582
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,840
So he brought it in and we
watched RoboCop 3IN well in the
583
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,040
in the school I loved it and I
went and I bought myself a
584
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,320
ticket because I wanted to go
see it.
585
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,440
So I saw the movie and I still
wanted to pay.
586
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,040
It's kind of like people who buy
a digital comic, they like it
587
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,880
and now they want the physical.
They say, you know what, I want
588
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,840
to own it.
So right.
589
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,480
Right, right.
Right, so that is it for the
590
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,120
news.
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591
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break in front of a live studio
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592
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talking to with and about.
How you hope, good neighbors.
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Phil, we've known you for quite
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actually found your way to not
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plethora of your own comic book
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And then you decide to take it
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And we've had you on the show
before when you announced that
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you were doing a distribution
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621
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Now you're doing a distribution
company.
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And it's really successful.
It's doing quite well.
623
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Like people are talking about
you people.
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It's a small compact world.
It's a small world.
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People know each other.
And your name is coming up to
626
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,360
people who, I don't know, know
you.
627
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,000
That's kind of.
Cool.
628
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,640
Can you?
Talk a little bit about how it
629
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,200
got so big.
Well, first let's talk about
630
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,720
what the distribution company is
and how do they get to where
631
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,280
it's at right now.
So we are worldwide distribution
632
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,600
same as Diamond, Lunar, all of
them obviously on a small scale.
633
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,560
We're about to hit our one year
anniversary of our first
634
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,200
catalog.
We specialize in the small press
635
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,800
that wasn't getting an
opportunity.
636
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Distribution worldwide is
basically direct market to the
637
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,680
stores, the comic book stores.
We have stores in Japan, Sweden,
638
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,440
UK, France, Germany, Australia,
Canada, Mexico and all over the
639
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,160
United States.
And we're growing.
640
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,480
And what we do is we put out our
catalog and we solicit to these
641
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,400
stores and we get small press
books out there the same way
642
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,160
Marvel and DC go through Lunar
and Universal and all all of
643
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,400
them.
Our terms are a little
644
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,280
different.
They're a little more fair
645
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080
across the board so that
publishers can succeed as well
646
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,360
as retailers.
And now we just added the print
647
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,080
on demand aspect, which actually
just makes it a one stop shop
648
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,280
for everybody.
We're creating our own.
649
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,440
I'm creating my own little
ecosystem within the industry
650
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,160
because a lot of middle men are
taking all the money.
651
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,120
The creators and the retailers
are not making any money.
652
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,520
And I wanted to create a system
where even though I'm
653
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,840
technically a middle man, I'm
not gouging prices, I'm keeping
654
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,120
them down.
I make a modest profit, but
655
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,320
everybody else can win as well.
And it's just healthy for the
656
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,600
industry overall if everyone is
walking away with a modicum of
657
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,400
success.
So even if you're a small
658
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,360
publisher and you sell five
books, you're still going to
659
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,600
make some money off that book as
opposed to being in the red on
660
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560
top of your production costs.
It gives the opportunity for
661
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,240
people to grow a fan base, get
out there across the world and
662
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,080
potentially get out of those
these echo chambers that we're
663
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,040
in on Kickstarter or on Facebook
that you have a chance to grow
664
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,920
your your IP, grow your
publishing company that you
665
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,000
didn't have before.
And of course, I have my own
666
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,560
publishing in print that I put
through my own distribution and
667
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,800
I'll be printing my own books.
So when I'm cutting out the
668
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,120
middle man for me, which
obviously helps me greatly, it's
669
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,600
really just a philosophy of
rising tides raise all ships.
670
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,680
I can still win and make a
profit and have a successful
671
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,200
business by making money with
everyone not off of them.
672
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,920
That's.
Awesome.
673
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,240
We've talked about Diamond.
Many times.
674
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,640
Yeah, because, you know, they're
they're pretty much done.
675
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,960
Phil, is is kind of taking a
little bit of that diamond
676
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,720
implosion for for yourself to
try and help out the independent
677
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,480
publishers.
Do you think you would have done
678
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,000
that had diamond not imploded in
such a glorious fashion?
679
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,960
Yes, I'm a very feisty Irishman
and I don't like being told I
680
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,000
can't get in the ring and fight.
Life is not a spectator sport.
681
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,720
I'm not going to watch you
fight.
682
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,360
I'm not asking for the hand to
hand me the belt, but you're
683
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,520
sure as hell not going to tell
me I can't fight for it.
684
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,000
I was looking at the industry
and how it's kind of gate kept
685
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,840
and and diamond and everything
and I said why?
686
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,360
Why am I relying on somebody
else for my future?
687
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,720
I was like, maybe I should start
this myself.
688
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,720
And then I found out through
people I know in the industry.
689
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,920
I know I'm a nobody who knows a
lot of somebody's.
690
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,280
The writing was on the wall and
I knew they were Diamond was
691
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,400
going to go down.
I even knew pretty much when.
692
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:16,600
So I decided to build the
infrastructure, get every store
693
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,520
in the world's, the list of
every store in the world, and
694
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,800
really build this up.
And I knew when Diamond was
695
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,040
going to announce their
bankruptcy.
696
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,679
So I announced my distribution
three weeks prior.
697
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,840
I even knew that they weren't
just going bankrupt, they were
698
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,760
going down.
I did tell a lot of people to
699
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,320
get their inventory out of
there.
700
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,600
Fortunately, I'm a nobody.
Nobody listened to me.
701
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,960
A lot of people lost their
inventory through Diamond, so
702
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,960
yes and no.
Yes, I was going to eventually
703
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,560
do it, but I think it was the
catalyst to do it as soon as I
704
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,199
did so.
When you are now a distribution
705
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,520
company, aren't you going to run
to the same problems that other
706
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,720
distribution companies do?
I mean, Diamond, as you
707
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,440
mentioned, was a gatekeeper.
So now isn't that upon you that
708
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,840
you're going to be like, I have
to decide what goes in my book,
709
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,560
what doesn't go in my book,
What's good enough to be
710
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,160
published to me?
What's not good enough to be
711
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,800
published?
To me, what reflects off of.
712
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,800
It's kind of the same thing that
Diamond does.
713
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,280
Not to their degree though
Diamond would would say we don't
714
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,760
think this art is sellable.
Art to me is objective, is
715
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960
subjective.
I'm not going to dictate whether
716
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,400
the art in your book is good
enough.
717
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,560
The only thing that we really
need a criteria of is the
718
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,360
professionalism of the product,
how it looks like.
719
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,280
You can't look like your 3 year
old did the logo and how is the
720
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,320
sequential storytelling.
I may not care for the art.
721
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,120
Art is subjective.
Some people love Bilson
722
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Kevitch's art and and think he's
a some don't.
723
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,120
Some love Mike Manola and don't
because he doesn't draw
724
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,600
shoulders.
You know, it's all subjective,
725
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,000
but if you can tell a story
properly through sequential
726
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,280
work, then let the free market
decide.
727
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,240
I'm not going to decide for you.
So our only criteria is that the
728
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,200
product has a professional logo
and look to it, the print
729
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,480
qualities professional and that
the sequential storytelling, you
730
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,480
know, is on par with what's on
the shelves.
731
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,880
And then if you like, if you,
I'm not a proponent of NSFW
732
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,040
really, but I'm not a, I'm not
going to censor it other than if
733
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,720
you have an NSFW cover, we want
you to black bag it because as a
734
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,360
parent especially, I don't want
my child walking in to pick up
735
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,800
Spider Man and there's a nude
cover right next to it.
736
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,240
I also think that hurts the
industry because that mother's
737
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,400
never coming back with her kid
into a comic store.
738
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,960
And that's really the the most
we gatekeep.
739
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,800
Other than that, I have terms
that are a little different
740
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,640
that, you know, I'm getting some
resistance from retailers like
741
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,680
we're a prepaid because Diamond
lost millions in unpaid
742
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,200
invoices.
And the reality of it is we are
743
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
not Marvel in DC.
And if you're a store owner and
744
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,960
we know that they struggle and
they're working hard to keep
745
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,320
their doors open and they just
got a $10,000 bill from from
746
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,840
Lunar or Universal and they got
the five or $600.00 bill from me
747
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,840
and their kidney to braces that
week or it was a bad month.
748
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,120
Someone's going to have to get
put to the side.
749
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,880
Who's that going to be?
It's going to be me.
750
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,320
Of course it's going to be me.
And I have an obligation to the
751
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,400
publishers as much as I do to
the retailers to make this work.
752
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,040
And the publishers, instead of
waiting 8 weeks to get paid out
753
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,720
or not getting paid out ever
because of a circumstance like
754
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:22,160
that, with my prepaid terms, the
stores are guaranteed to get
755
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,120
their books, but the publishers
are also guaranteed to get their
756
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,800
money.
And I think it's fair across the
757
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,960
board for everyone.
We have over 600 stores signed
758
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,920
up and they're fine with it.
They're fair with it is, you
759
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,640
know, some old school
resistance, which is
760
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,720
understanding.
I mean, they were getting a net
761
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:40,480
30 or net 60, which means they
get billed later, they get the
762
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,240
books and they don't have to pay
for 3060 days, which there's
763
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,880
nowhere else in retail that
really does that.
764
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,680
And they were getting or they
were getting free shipping, 50%
765
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,200
discounts.
So they were getting a lot in
766
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,160
their favor.
And when you're diamonds and
767
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,560
you're the monopoly and you have
the big name big companies,
768
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,240
that's fine.
But once they started to lose
769
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:00,280
Marvel and DC, you can't sustain
that model and you have small
770
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,360
and that's when they still have
bigger guys like Dynamite and
771
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,280
everything.
I don't even have guys that big.
772
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,160
I have Xenoscope and Auto Press,
et cetera, but we're not on that
773
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,280
level to where I can afford to
kind of throw that money out
774
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,200
there.
And I'm not a venture
775
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,520
capitalist.
We're going to be with the POD.
776
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,400
We're going to be giving better
incentives and more discounts to
777
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,000
these stores, but we're going to
keep the prepaid because we
778
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,360
think it's fair.
We've proven over the year that
779
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,400
you will get your, your, your
merchandise.
780
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,120
And if for whatever reason, you
know, a publisher falls through
781
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,920
and you don't get anything, we
will refund the money.
782
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,800
We have it there for you, You
know, so we've built a great
783
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,040
customer service relationship
with our stores over the past
784
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,320
year and they'll tell you the
same.
785
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,360
I think you mentioned toying
with this idea.
786
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,240
I'm going to say like two or
three years ago when you were
787
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:45,040
on.
What's the most difficult thing
788
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,640
about doing this, and what's the
most rewarding thing?
789
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Well, I'll start with rewarding.
Rewarding is that you get to see
790
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,120
people's dreams come true, even
on a small stage.
791
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Again, it's it's giving people a
channel, an opportunity to just
792
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,360
do something they didn't before.
Because as much as Kickstarter
793
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,120
is great, it's not really meant
to be an independent
794
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,720
distribution.
And that's what people started
795
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,080
using it for.
And it's imploding and
796
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Kickstarter has its algorithms
that bury you and, and, and
797
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,920
you're in an ecosystem, an echo
chamber and it's, it's
798
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,840
difficult.
So this it's, it's rewarding to
799
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,800
see publishers excited and
seeing opportunities that they
800
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,520
may not have had.
The hard part is I'm new, I'm
801
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,000
small, gaining respect, gaining
trust with retailers.
802
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,960
And you do tend to work with
some people that publishers that
803
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,040
have quality products, but maybe
they don't understand the
804
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,680
business yet and they're
learning as they go and you know
805
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,560
it.
It requires patience and
806
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,840
bandwidth on my part to to kind
of walk them through all of it
807
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,240
so I can help them be
successful.
808
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,640
Am I technically responsible for
that?
809
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,640
No.
But, you know, I want to see
810
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,840
everybody win, you know, so.
So since you are your own
811
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,280
publisher.
That does remind me of when
812
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Disney slash Marvel decided to
stop publishing certain comics
813
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,240
because they didn't own the
properties.
814
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,800
The Fox properties, the X-Men,
They decided to push that aside
815
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,840
because they're like, why should
I promote something that we
816
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,600
don't own entirely?
Do you have that conflict of
817
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,720
interest to promote your stuff
over somebody else's, and how do
818
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,480
you manage to deal with that?
And how do you manage to deal
819
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,600
with the backlash of someone
accusing you of that?
820
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,960
It's a great question.
Honestly.
821
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,840
I, I, I have a guy from
Argentina that is book night
822
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,400
that we put through a
distribution.
823
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,720
We do G Men comics, we have
Sergeant Flag and they both have
824
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:49,680
ads in all my tragedy books.
I promote all the time.
825
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,520
We do extra things that give
them covers on our catalog as
826
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,520
well as other independents.
So I mean, of course I'm pushing
827
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,800
my publishing hard, but I do try
to push them hard as well
828
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,880
because honestly, I just, my
name is on it for a reason and
829
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,720
they're relying on me for a
reason.
830
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:15,480
And I have this thing where I
feel responsible.
831
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,920
I'm putting them on my shoulder
to a degree in the distribution
832
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,240
aspect.
Like they, they, they're
833
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,080
successful on their own.
They're doing their own thing,
834
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,160
but they came to me to provide a
service and I would, I would
835
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,560
feel bad if I wasn't providing
that service properly.
836
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,920
So luckily I've never been
accused of not promoting.
837
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,160
But if they were to, then I
would have to take a look and
838
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,880
say, is there merit to this
accusation or not?
839
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,800
And then I'd have to sit and
have a conversation with them.
840
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,920
I would hope that that
accusation would be an internal
841
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,000
thing, of course.
But you know, as I was saying,
842
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,720
you can't please everybody all
the time, right?
843
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:53,000
So you just, it really depends
on the situation how it comes.
844
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,560
But so far I have a great
relationship with all the people
845
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,280
that I've been publishing.
And on the same logic line, if
846
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,440
for some reason your books
decide to not sell or you're not
847
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,520
doing well with your books, will
you still continue the
848
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,560
distribution?
Absolutely.
849
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,200
I didn't just do this
distribution for my own books.
850
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,520
To be honest with you, it
wouldn't have worked if it was
851
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,120
just tragedy by itself anyway.
You know, stores don't want to
852
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,600
order from individual publishers
because then they have 505,000
853
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,480
people to order from.
They need a distribution hub.
854
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,240
But this really take on its life
of its own.
855
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,360
I mean, when I started the
distribution, I had to say to
856
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,000
myself, how much of this is for
me and how much is this for
857
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,200
everybody?
And it really is the same thing
858
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:42,160
because the health of the
industry includes me.
859
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,600
And if I look short term, like
you ever go to a convention and
860
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,400
there's the carnival Barker guy
that's trying to push everybody
861
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,800
to get the sales.
He may have had a good show, but
862
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,320
every one of those people is
probably not coming back for a
863
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,600
sale because they felt pressured
into it or they felt
864
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,760
uncomfortable or they're going
to avoid that aisle.
865
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,520
So that's a short term game.
That's the grifter mentality
866
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,080
that has hurt the industry.
But if if I look at it as long
867
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,840
term growth, meaning the more I
do for the health of the
868
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,840
industry, I am now part of that
industry, it's going to trickle
869
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,240
down to me as well while I'm
helping others.
870
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:25,880
So I don't I don't buy into
that.
871
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,800
It's me or you like you have
your book designated.
872
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,840
You're not my competition.
You're my brother in arms.
873
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,480
You're in the community.
You're there's enough people to
874
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,120
go around that might like both
are books or maybe they like
875
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,360
your book and they don't like
mine.
876
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,360
But it's still the health of the
industry that we're building the
877
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,080
economy in the comic world.
We're we're getting readership
878
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,040
back and there are plenty of
readers that even if they don't
879
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,680
want my book and they want
yours, they may tell their
880
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960
cousin, hey, check out
designated.
881
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,840
And then by the way, I don't
really care for it.
882
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,280
But do you like this book
tragedy?
883
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080
It's you know what I'm saying?
It's this ripple effect.
884
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,960
You know, it's it's long term
growth through the health of the
885
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,520
industry will will not only help
other people, but it'll help
886
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,040
myself.
There's no reason to help my I
887
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,880
can't help myself and help
others equally.
888
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,320
And it's just a good thing
across the board because we want
889
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,680
readers back.
Jen question.
890
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,840
What's a book that was submitted
that you had to deny or any
891
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:29,320
topics that you had to deny?
I don't deny genre or topic, but
892
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000
I I hate, I hate when I, I have
to deny a submission.
893
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,680
I really, really hate it because
I feel bad.
894
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,040
I don't ever want to be the
reason someone doesn't pursue
895
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,280
their dreams.
But there have been people I've
896
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,800
had to turn away.
And it was the sequential
897
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,960
storytelling was just not there.
Like I felt the raw, the art was
898
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,200
raw and it, it wasn't my kind of
art, but that wasn't the reason.
899
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,760
It was stiff panels, couldn't
really follow what was going on.
900
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,760
There wasn't any energy or
dynamics in the comic.
901
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,760
And I have to look at that and
say, unfortunately, I don't
902
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,160
think this is a book that's
going to sell anything.
903
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,480
And I'm spending money to
onboard that book and to onboard
904
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,280
that person.
And I have to wave.
905
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,040
I have to put on the business
cap and take away the fan cap.
906
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,920
And I have to say, if I'm going
to spend this money and this
907
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,560
bandwidth and time to onboard
this person to get them out
908
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,120
there knowing that they're not
going to sell books, I have to
909
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,120
say, I'm sorry, I can't, you're
not ready yet.
910
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,680
And what I tell them in the
rejection letter is we are not
911
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,600
rejecting you.
We're telling you you're not
912
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,360
ready yet.
Come back to us when you get the
913
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,360
sequentials down.
And it's really based on the
914
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,600
sequential storytelling.
It just, it has to make sense.
915
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,080
It has to be cohesive.
There has to be a standard for
916
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,920
the storytelling aspect.
You know, who am I to say what's
917
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,400
good or bad?
I mean, now there is a, a level
918
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,320
of art that I have turned away
where it's the eye is here, the
919
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,720
eye is here, you know, I mean,
that's obviously just not ready.
920
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,800
And the other thing is AI, we
will not accept any written AI
921
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,840
or any art AI.
And we put everything, even if
922
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,840
we don't suspect through 2
engines.
923
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,480
And we've had some people that
would have got through if we
924
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,880
didn't do that because they
touched it up with AI.
925
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,760
We're not doing that.
AI is a no no for us at syllable
926
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,800
publishing and distribution.
And we make it clear, we're
927
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,680
sorry, but we do not accept AI
books.
928
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,880
And that's it.
And that includes if you had it
929
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,040
written by ChatGPT and you can
tell when it's written by
930
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,000
ChatGPT.
What?
931
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,000
About Putin, what if Putin
submitted a book or Trump would
932
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,560
you take a book from?
It's funny that you asked that
933
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,680
because I've had conversations
with Comicsgate people.
934
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,720
They're they're considered
conservative and right wing and
935
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,760
there's a there's this
ideological conflict.
936
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,760
Politically, I don't give a crap
about tribalism.
937
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,000
Comics are the thing that are
supposed to unite everybody,
938
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,680
whether you're a Biden fan or
Trump fan.
939
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,360
I don't care about all that in
the comic world.
940
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,040
It's about comics and
storytelling.
941
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,920
We are a business.
I am not here to censor or pick
942
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,520
sides.
I could easily have Erik Larson,
943
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,600
who is very liberal, put a book
through me and I could have
944
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,400
Ethan Van Sciver put a book
through me.
945
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:20,640
Their beliefs in politics do not
represent me.
946
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,080
I'm simply just a channel to put
their books out there and let
947
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,520
the free market decide who
should be bought or not and
948
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,000
that's it.
I'm not here to morally pass
949
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,440
judge on anybody because I'm not
God.
950
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,840
I'm just a distributor.
I'm the mailman.
951
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,200
Imagine your mailman said, I
can't deliver your mail because
952
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,480
you have a Trump sign or a Biden
sign.
953
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,640
I don't do that.
That's none of my business.
954
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,360
I don't even want to know.
Now, if you're an outright
955
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,280
racist or, or somebody and you
use language that is defamatory
956
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,360
and stuff like that, well then
no, I, I, I, I can't support
957
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,880
that.
You know what I mean?
958
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,080
I mean, there's one thing.
If you're writing a character in
959
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,080
a story that talks that way,
that's the character.
960
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,000
But if you yourself are speaking
that way online, then I
961
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,200
probably, I wouldn't, I wouldn't
deal with that because now you
962
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,880
are promoting a certain hate
that I have to kind of step in
963
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,680
and say I can't, I can't promote
that platform.
964
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,200
So how do you go about doing
that?
965
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,680
If you get a new submission, do
you go through all the social
966
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,000
media stuff and look?
Believe it or not, we do that.
967
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,360
Believe it or not, we do.
We go to your social media.
968
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,160
We look at what you're posting,
what you're doing.
969
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,000
I don't care if you post pro
Trump or pro Biden, but if you
970
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,360
were to sit there and use
extremely derogatory racist
971
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:41,440
remarks towards anybody or
promoting death, I'm not doing
972
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,560
that.
I'm not doing that.
973
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,640
I wouldn't wish death on anybody
and I don't want.
974
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,720
I just don't want to.
I also look at it like this.
975
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,880
I am now getting into a business
marriage with this person and I
976
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,520
don't know if that work is going
to work when if you're this kind
977
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,320
of person, you know, so we do,
we look at your social media, we
978
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,480
look at your platform, We, we
look at all that.
979
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,080
And if you're a retailer, we vet
you as well.
980
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,160
We look and see, you know, you
have to submit your tax ID
981
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,680
number, you have to submit a
website where you're selling
982
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,160
from.
And we have to look and see if
983
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,400
you're legit or not because
we're giving wholesale discounts
984
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,000
and we can't be giving it just
to the public.
985
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,160
It can't be just Bob who
pretends to be Bob's store
986
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,400
because he wants to get
everything at 4050% off.
987
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,480
So we vet everyone we have to.
How far back does the vetting
988
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:39,120
process go a year to year?
No, no, honestly, you know a
989
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,880
person in in the last probably
couple of months of what they're
990
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,040
posting to be honest with you
and I don't have the time to go
991
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,440
years back.
I'll go back a couple of months
992
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,440
if the, if it's very, if the
person's very benign over like
993
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,920
the 1st 20 posts, they probably
don't go any further.
994
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,160
But if you see something that
kind of red flags you, then you
995
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,840
look a little further and then
you look a little further.
996
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,760
I have people that help with
research and stuff like that.
997
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,920
We try not to like I said, we
try not to be partisan in any
998
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:14,640
way, you know, like bipartisan
where we're saying I don't agree
999
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,240
with your philosophy.
So blah, blah, blah.
1000
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,080
It's not about disagreeing with
the philosophy.
1001
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,960
It's it's are you, you know, it
would have to be extremism, you
1002
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,080
know, like hateful rhetoric,
damn, you know, harmful that
1003
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,160
would create violence.
Now you may say that's
1004
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,360
subjective.
No, I'm talking about actual
1005
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,640
saying that person should be
harmed in this way or that way.
1006
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,400
I'm not talking about someone's
opinion of they're a jerk or I
1007
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,960
don't agree with this.
That's you have a right to an
1008
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,840
opinion.
I know so.
1009
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,520
So we have about like 8 minutes
left.
1010
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,920
Let's talk about your books.
What books do you have going on
1011
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,200
here?
A lot.
1012
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,000
So we have a horror anthology,
Diary of Dread, which the
1013
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,720
storyboard artist of The
Creepshow TV show loved and said
1014
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:04,000
the last story actually
disturbed them.
1015
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,600
I was like, yes, I was told by a
horror fan that I must have some
1016
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,480
secret psycho in me.
But anyway, it sells very well.
1017
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,120
People enjoy it.
It's 156 page anthology in the
1018
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,680
vein of Tales from a Creep show,
and it's a fun, straight up gory
1019
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,440
horror book.
It's mature audience audiences.
1020
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,800
And then on the opposite side of
the spectrum, we have The
1021
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,840
Dynamics, which is a family of
superheroes and it's a book that
1022
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,600
a father or a mother can sit
down with their child and read.
1023
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:33,680
And I'm proud of that book
because you know, you look at
1024
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,280
Pixar books or whatever and some
or stories and sometimes to get
1025
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,000
the parent interested, they'll
throw in an innuendo and then
1026
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,640
that causes a question for the
kid, like what did that mean?
1027
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,680
And now the parents like, how do
I explain this?
1028
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,480
There's none of that in this
book.
1029
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,160
It's just a wholesome family
fun.
1030
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,760
It's funny, it's got action
adventure.
1031
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,040
And I highly recommend it.
If you have kids that don't like
1032
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,760
reading, it's a good gateway
into getting them maybe to start
1033
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,480
reading on some level.
You could sit with them and
1034
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,840
enjoy it.
Sorry, it was an accident.
1035
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,680
We have Papa, which is a very
personal tale to me.
1036
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:11,000
It's about a 75 year old Vietnam
vet who is protecting his family
1037
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,400
from the Yakuza and the Italian
mafia.
1038
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,760
I can't get into details.
It has a twist that yeah, it has
1039
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,560
a twist at the end of the the
first issue that catches
1040
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,520
everybody off guard.
Chuck Dixon, the writer of
1041
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,440
Batman, Punisher, Robin, he
wrote Nightfall, loves the book.
1042
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,280
He said the dialogue is very
real and he got caught off guard
1043
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,760
by the the twist.
So if you don't believe me, tell
1044
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,920
yes, Chuck.
It's a fun story, but it's also
1045
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,080
kind of goes into the sacrifices
that fathers and men make that
1046
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,600
go unnoticed and how men will
silently go to that job they
1047
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,120
hate, strap on those boots, do
what they got to do, even when
1048
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,480
they're working on their eternal
demons, and they'll still come
1049
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,360
home and answer that toy phone
for their daughter.
1050
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,360
You know, we don't get our
flowers on Father's Day.
1051
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,320
We BBQ our own meal.
You know, we love women.
1052
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,560
I appreciate women.
Without women, there'd be no
1053
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,560
life.
But I did want to just talk
1054
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,320
about men for a little while
because we make those silent
1055
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,080
sacrifices and we don't ask for
for anything in return.
1056
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,520
And I, I just want to do that.
And it's an honor.
1057
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,200
My dad had passed away.
He was bench pressing 165 lbs at
1058
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,680
77 years old in five weeks in
aggressive cancer took him and
1059
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,280
he didn't get to see the book
before he died.
1060
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,280
But he didn't get to read the
script and then he liked it.
1061
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,560
We have Arcane Syndicate which
is the Universal Monsters as a
1062
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,280
government agency that fights
supernatural threats that affect
1063
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,920
the world.
I was told that it was the most
1064
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,080
fun read a 40 year editor in
comics had in the last 20 years.
1065
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,880
We have withered, which is a
Long story short.
1066
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,280
It's angels versus demons.
But time is not a construct of
1067
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,600
our mind.
It's actually a significant
1068
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,280
being that imprisoned God.
And that's why the world is not
1069
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:56,400
perfect and we it satiates
itself off of our life energy.
1070
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,240
That's why we grow old, we
wither and we die.
1071
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,240
But the angels, archangels that
survived the war, actually
1072
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,920
recruit faithful people before
they die to be angels, to fight
1073
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,800
the war, to rescue God and bring
upon the utopia that we were
1074
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,040
supposed to have.
We've got Shaman is a telepath
1075
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,760
telekinetic that uses his
abilities.
1076
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,560
He's a son of a Baptist
minister.
1077
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,840
He uses them to heal people or
pharmaceutical companies losing
1078
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,400
a lot of money in that district.
So they have ties with the
1079
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,240
Mexican cartel, and they send
assassins to kill this kid.
1080
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,240
And even though he's powerful,
he's just a young boy, so he's
1081
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:34,640
scared and on the run.
We have Tragedy, which is my
1082
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,080
flagship title, which is an
Irish assassin that's living a
1083
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,920
life that she doesn't want to
live.
1084
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,440
She doesn't think she can have a
better life.
1085
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,480
She has issues with her adopted
father wanting and needing his
1086
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,880
love and respect while at the
same time hating him and herself
1087
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,120
for it.
But it deals with Chinese
1088
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:55,400
mysticism, monsters, metahumans,
assassins and Chuck Dixon, Peter
1089
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,840
David at Rest in Peace and
Howard Mackey said it's a really
1090
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,120
good book that is an ongoing
series in stores every month.
1091
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,280
We're on issue 8 with the crispy
cello cover, which is in stores
1092
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,840
as of today all.
Right, so we're almost out of
1093
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,720
time.
Social media.
1094
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:10,640
Where can people find out more
about you and your company?
1095
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,840
The best way is to Facebook my
Philip Rosser page because it
1096
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,800
beats all the algorithms for
having a business page.
1097
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,560
But you can also go Filbo
distribution, Filbo publishing,
1098
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,320
You'll find me everywhere if you
just Google me.
1099
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,960
We're all over the place.
We're in Comics B, we're in
1100
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,880
Bleeding cool, Bleeding Fool.
We, we're everywhere.
1101
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,360
We're on CBS, We're in, you
know, we're in a lot of
1102
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:30,680
different.
Publications.
1103
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,080
Yeah, no, we were, we were, we
were all over.
1104
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,840
We were.
Yes, we were even on Fox, we
1105
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,920
were on, we were on IGN, not
IGN.
1106
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,320
I forgot that.
What's the business?
1107
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,400
Facebook, LinkedIn.
LinkedIn did an article on us.
1108
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,800
So we're we're all over the
place Go.
1109
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,840
So check us out.
All right, so you were kind
1110
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,680
enough to raffle off number ones
of all your of all your books?
1111
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,080
Right.
Yes, every single book we've
1112
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,600
done, I've done.
And we're also raffling off 2
1113
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,000
tickets to the Elite Comic Expo,
which is at the end of this
1114
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,240
month at St.
John's University.
1115
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,760
And they have a special guest,
Jim Lee is going to be there on
1116
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,480
Sunday.
So do you want to do the books
1117
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,520
first or do you want the tickets
to the convention first?
1118
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,240
Or do you want to do as a both?
However you want to do is fine
1119
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:16,200
you.
Only guess, you decide.
1120
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,600
I guess you can raffle off the
books first, books first.
1121
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,840
The winner is going to get all
the books here.
1122
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,960
All right.
All right.
1123
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:31,520
And the winner?
Is the winner is Thank you, I'm
1124
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:39,400
blind 376739. 376739 All right,
give you the book at the end of
1125
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,920
the show.
We'll do that in one minute.
1126
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,760
And now for the passes to the
Elite 511 Expo.
1127
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,240
It's 2 tickets, so it's one
winner, yeah.
1128
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,160
Yeah, it's one winner, OK.
And that is what number?
1129
00:56:51,160 --> 00:57:00,000
Winner is 376743. 7434343 give
it.
1130
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,360
He doesn't want to go, so I
guess we'll just hold off on
1131
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:10,680
that.
All right, All right, so almost
1132
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,320
out of time.
Final thought.
1133
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,160
I just want to say support
independent publishing because
1134
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,520
it is not the stigma of back to
the catalog.
1135
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,800
You think a lot of them are even
working with former Marvel DC
1136
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,720
people.
You're going to get passionate
1137
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,800
storytelling for the sake of
storytelling, not agenda driven,
1138
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,560
not corporate driven.
And you'd be surprised you might
1139
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,800
find that title that becomes the
next thing that you're really
1140
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,520
excited to to to read.
So support independence and go
1141
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,560
check out
www.filbodistribution.com.
1142
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,800
Jen, do you have a final thought
from over there?
1143
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,440
Respect is the foundation of all
relationships.
1144
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,360
Agreed so my final thought is
this thank you for being a guest
1145
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,480
on the show.
Like I said we've known you for
1146
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,960
a long time.
It's really cool that you've
1147
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,920
from where you started to where
you're at.
1148
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,240
It's an amazing journey and I
hope the journey continues on.
1149
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,720
Thank you so that about does it
for this week on the camp on the
1150
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,200
radio.
Join us right here any week on
1151
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,920
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If you made any part of the
1152
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,640
show, go to our website
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1153
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,840
will be off any week or so.
Our next live show in front of a
1154
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:15,720
live studio audience will be on
Wednesday, June 10th at 7:00 PM
1155
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,240
Eastern Standard Time.
And we will have award-winning
1156
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,760
musical theatre writer and
performer SAR Kaufman.
1157
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,800
And they will be giving, oh
we're giving away 2 tickets to
1158
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,520
the Long Island Trick
Convention.
1159
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,080
And they're also giving a book,
a book that they autographed.
1160
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,200
So what's that?
We'll see you all next time.
1161
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,760
You have been listening to It
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1162
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,400
Torres.
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1163
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,240
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1164
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,640
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1165
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,360
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