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And now it came from the radio.
Welcome once again to a game

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from the radio, the officially
Big Apple Con.

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This is your host Mark Torres
speaking with me back live in

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the WGBB Studios.
For first time a long time, we

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have none other than Alcena
correspondent Charlie Saladino.

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Hello fun seekers.
It's good to be back at WGBB

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where good broadcasting begins.
And we have our.

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Newest cohost in live in the
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She's been with us for quite
some time online, but now we're

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back in the studio.
We have none of them.

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Elle Man.
Jane Feldy I.

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Feel good.
So on this week's show, as soon

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as I pull it up, I know I have
it here somewhere.

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Hold on, my computer is not
acting up.

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We have a interview with the
other the interview you did with

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the the name of the person you
had the interview with, the last

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interview you did.
I know we have this.

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The unfixed?
Yes.

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The Oh, right.
The Yes.

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What's their first?
Gay conversion therapy, The

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producers of basically an expose
documentary on gay conversion

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therapy.
Very interesting.

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Yeah, so that's what we're doing
on this week's show.

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But before, before we do any of
that, we have a son on the

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phone.
We have the son goblin on the

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phone.
Say hi, Hassan Goblin.

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Hello, Hassan Godwin.
There we.

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Goblin.
Hassan.

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Goblin.
Welcome to our show, Back live

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once again.
It's just as hectic as it was

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when I left it.
I hope you guys are comfortable.

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Yes, we are very, very
comfortable.

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So as I mentioned, that's the
show we're going to have a

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conversation with where is it?
This is, This is why I love this

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live stuff.
Jennifer, Elle man, Jenny, Phil,

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the interviews, film makers
Graham Streacher and Alex La

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Bosque.
Yeah, I did, Yes.

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There we go.
I did.

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I enjoyed it.
They were fine young gentlemen

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and we talked about converting
men to not be not gay.

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OK.
But before we do any of that, we

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have to take it away with the
news.

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OK.
Sure, we could do that.

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That's a lot of not.
That is not the news.

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It's like the news is brought to
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As we do, we want to start with

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the sad news.
We have two business sad news

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this week, awardwinning actor.
Comedian, director, producer,

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author, screenwriter and singer
Alan Wolfe Arkin known Professor

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Injustice Alan Arkin died
recently of cardiovascular

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disease.
Alan was in a slew of films and

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TV shows, of which there are too
many to name here.

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With most recently being on the
Netflix series of The Kaminsky

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Method.
Great show.

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So you're familiar with Alan's
work?

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Well, I love the show, Yeah, the
shows.

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The shows was great.
I loved it, Yeah.

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Charlie seeing goes on it.
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My God, Alan Hawkin is is one of
the classics.

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He's one of the most seasoned
actors that this business ever

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had.
He he was funny.

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He was serious.
He had it all.

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He's a full package.
Yeah, he he had it multi

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talented.
Sad to see him go.

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And now they have him up in
heaven, and maybe he can help us

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in a different way.
OK, maybe.

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I don't know if you believe in
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Maybe.
I can't follow that.

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I.
Can't follow the afterlife If

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you can.
After the afterlife, there's the

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after afterlife.
After the party, there's the

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after party enough.
After the after party, there's

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an after, after party.
Can you follow that to us on?

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No, I cannot and I won't try.
All right.

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So he was 89 years old.
So moving on to the last bit of

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sad news, New York meteorologist
Doctor Frank Field also died

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recently.
As of this recording, which is

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the July the 9th of 2023, no
cause of death has been

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announced.
Growing up, I remember Frank as

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the weatherman who took over
from Mr. G on CBS and stayed for

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11 years before moving on to WWR
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You know, Queens in New York of
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John Kaplan Field and his wife
of 75 years had died earlier

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this year and two of his three
children, Storm and Allison,

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also followed in his footsteps,
become meteorologist as well.

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Now, I was a big CBS fan when I
was a kid growing up, so I used

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to watch CBS and had all the the
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There was Warner Wolf, who was
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For those of you who are fans of
Rocky Three, he was an announcer

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and then they had the news guy,
which was the weatherman, which

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was Mr. G and then this boring
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Field.
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I always had something against
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that.
Do you remember?

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I remember Frank Field.
I worked with his son Storm.

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Oh, see that?
Channel 7 Storm was the

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weatherman at Channel 7.
I worked with him.

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He was great guy.
All right, great guy, Frank.

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I remember Storm Field and then
a storm Field from just watching

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television, just watching the
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I always thought it was ironic
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I I think he did it on purpose.
I would host.

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Of course.
Well, I think he he named one of

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his.
How how many kids did you have?

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Three kids.
I think he named one of the

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daughters Sonny or something
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Or something to do with weather.
He was a little bit obsessed, I

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guess he was appropriately
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So he was 100 years old, so he
made it all the way up to A. 100

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he got the letter.
He got the letter.

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So.
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Them get the letter.
So that was the for the sad

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news, but we have a sad news
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we're going to take our break.
In the sad news followup.

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Department.
In a previous episode of our

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show, we mentioned that actor
Adam Rich, most famously known

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for his role of Nicholas
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Enough, had passed away at the
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have been announced.
Turns out that his death has

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been ruled an accident due to
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According to Los Angeles County
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God, now you were a fan of
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Not enough.
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he died.
Yeah, you know, it's always sad

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when they say that the child
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hard time growing up and he was
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I mean, listen, for anyone
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drug use, but with all of the
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There's just no other reason to
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edibles can sometimes free be
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almost like heroin and and ask
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messing around with other drugs
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I mean, it's just just kids just
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Don't do it.
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Don't well.
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It was an accident.
Did he come in contact with

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fentanyl?
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It that's all I have no followup
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Where have you been?
Follow questions.

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Yeah, you've been in the past 20
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Strayed I just wanted to get the
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You mean he was just walking
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goes whoops is that way.
That's clearing firm and.

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You you come in contact with
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Right.
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cocaine, it's, you know, they
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find the minettables and wines
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So that's it for the hands.
So we're going to take a quick

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Mark Torres speaking.
What up with me?

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In this studio at the GB
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correspondent, Charles.
How they know.

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Hello, hell man, Jenny Feldi.
Good day, good evening.

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And the man on the side, Hassan
got went on the phone.

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Hey, still here.
Everything's fine.

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Everything's great.
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So let's see.
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regular news.
So let's see what we got.

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Brian from the Are you ready
from the that's a lot of.

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The white man recent auction a
Louis Vuitton inspired neon

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green miniature purse was sold
for $63,750.

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What makes this interesting or
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point of view, is that the
handbag is small is quote

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smaller than a grain of sea
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And narrow enough to pass
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measuring at 657 by 222 by 700
micro meters, which is less than

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.03 inches across.
The bag was created via 3D

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printer technology and of note
the actual bag of which it was

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inspired from runs about 31 to
$43,000 according to their

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website on the lastly the buyer
of the mini purse.

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Also received a micro microscope
and it built in digital display

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for viewing at no extra cost.
Oh my God, I have such a bridge

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to sell that.
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My God.
So.

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I gotta meet whoever bought
this.

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So if you look online, you can
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It's smaller than it's, you
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on your finger.
Last, it's a purse that you

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can't put anything in.
I was gonna say that. 63,000.

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Dollars.
You can't put any.

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What the hell are people nuts?
I mean, you can't even put.

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It the guy promised me I would
get my money's worth, though, I

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said The guy promised me I would
get my money's worth.

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So I think it was a good
investment.

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Personally, it's.
Oh my God.

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I mean, I sell designer
handbags.

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After this show.
I'm probably going to sell a few

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100 or a few $1000 worth of
possibly Lou Vuitton bags.

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But I mean, you can't even put a
grain of rice in it.

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Yes it so you're gonna, you're
gonna you're gonna start selling

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the the Louis Vuitton inspired,
the Louvuitton.

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They're not even real Louvuitton
bags, the Louvuitton inspired

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bags, micro bags.
How could anybody inspire that?

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I've.
Gotta be tripping and not

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sharing your drugs with people.
Well, to inspire.

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Them for $3000.
Maybe they believe in fairies.

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Yeah, because someone was
telling me about fairies the

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other day.
And maybe the fairies could live

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in the bag.
Maybe it's.

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Could you imagine That's like,
hey Jen, do you wanna buy this?

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This flea I have, do you want to
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He's he's a star in his flea
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Here he's, I mean.
If it was a little Vuitton flea,

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maybe we're talking.
But it's not not even a Louis

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Vuitton.
It's Louis Vuitton inspired.

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Well, I I you know, I can still
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Idiots will think it's Lou
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So all the matters.
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Then then, like if you went to
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there's Jen and look at that
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that's either a female.
Here she comes.

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Down here we have a little
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Wow.
It's a moving on.

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Moving on from the one strike
and you're out follow out

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department.
As of this recording, we are on

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day 67 of the writers strike.
Also, there's a potential strike

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looming for the Screen Actors
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On top of all that, San Diego
Comic Con, the biggest pop

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culture convention, is happening
later this month.

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To put them all together, you
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Disney, which also consists of
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as well as Sony, Universal, HBL
and Netflix have announced that

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they will not be presenting at
the event with, as of this

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recording, Warner Brothers.
Amazon, Apple and NBC holding

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off until the very last minute
to this make the decision on

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attendees, Sanyo Comic Con says.
With regard to the strike and

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its possible effects on Comic
Con, we tend to refrain from

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speculating or forecasting.
I will say I hope it's for a

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speedy resolution that will
provide beneficial to all

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parties and will allow everyone
to continue work they love.

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Until then, we continue diligent
work on a summer event in hopes

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of making it as fun,
educational, and celebratory as

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in past years.
On things are so last minute

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that on the San Diego website
right now, which tickets have

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been sold out since November of
last year, not only have they no

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panels listed, but the guest
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Of note, the deadline for
refunds was this past March.

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So Can you imagine you bought
this here in November for the

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biggest convention entire United
States, and there's no guests,

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no big time celebrities.
That's crazy, right, Hassan?

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That's.
Do we lose on?

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No.
So what are your thoughts?

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I can't follow that screen.
Look, you gotta have solidarity

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with the talent.
So it's, you know, it's the

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industry's making.
It's not the actors or the

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writers that are doing it.
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If these outlets are showing
solidarity for the for the

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actual talent behind the talent,
then you know you can't fault

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them.
But yeah, it's a it's a mess for

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anybody who spent over a couple
$100 for tickets though.

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But you know, take it up with
the take it up with the people

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upstairs.
Yeah, take it up with the

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writers go.
I mean, it seems like the people

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participating in this writers
strike are really trying to

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teach a lesson, and the only way
to really teach a lesson to

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someone is to.
Abstain from giving yourself to

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that person, whether that's an
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business relationship, or you
know, the writers being one

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entity against another entity.
Make it hurt financially in some

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way, shape or form.
So yeah, I mean, I don't know if

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it's a, I'm not a customer, so I
don't know if it's, I don't know

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if I can actually say it's a
good thing or a bad thing.

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But it's something I totally
understand.

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Sorry, Charlie, Good.
No, no, I'm just saying what a

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what a big advantage.
Thing for the writers because I

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I'm sitting there thinking if I
had a ticket to the San Diego

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Comic Con right now, I would be
following the strike like

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intensely and hoping it ended
otherwise.

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Banging my head into the wall
saying why why why doing the

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Nancy Kerrigan?
Thing.

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Well, This is why I don't.
Like to buy things ahead of

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time.
As I just told my dad, he

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insisted we have to buy tickets
for this band.

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It's the best band, so I got the
tickets.

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I didn't want to buy the tickets
because when every time I book

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something I had something comes
up.

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Guess what?
People got really sick.

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We couldn't even go.
So that's a waste of like

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$300.00.
I if you can't buy tickets the

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same day, I don't want to go.
No, now they got.

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The tickets.
At last minute.

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Wow.
So well, but still they got it

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ahead.
I'm talking like the same day.

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Get those tickets the same day
cuz you don't know what can

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happen.
This world is very

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unpredictable.
Well, sadly, everything is about

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pre sales now.
So you know you have to sell the

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thing before you sell it and
people that way, you know, you

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guaranteed that amount of money.
And because everybody wants to

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be the first and get ahead of
everybody else, people keep on

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buying it earlier and earlier
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And that's why you have a
convention that is in July

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selling out in November of the
previous year.

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It's insane.
If you think about it is and

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also.
I think that this might present

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an opportunity for the
independent creators and comic

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guys, because a lot of things
that we have always talked about

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is how the convention starts off
with just comics and then it

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grows a little bigger.
Get a couple artists and it goes

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celebrities, and then get more
celebrities and it gets bigger

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and bigger and then the
celebrities take over and then

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you lose the foundation of what
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So if there are no celebrities
there, this might be actually

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good for the other people that
are there, not necessarily for

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the people going because they
paid a lot of money for all this

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stuff, which they're not going
to get.

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But people did pay for tables.
People did pay for space.

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So what do you guys think about
that?

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This is the year next year too.
Maybe the year after that for

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the independent artist Quote me.
I stand by that.

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I saw what do you got.
Yeah, I don't disagree.

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I think, I think, I think a lot
of these, these giant

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amalgamated companies or
whatever kind of go out of

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style.
I mean now you see with the box

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office situation, everyone's
kind of cursing at the.

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Studios for spending too much
money to make these movies,

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which is like the, you know,
it's like almost the, it's it's

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almost like upside down world,
right?

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Because you know back in the day
it used to be about all about

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the big budget.
You got to spend a lot of money

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in order to to get the, you know
to get the butts in the seats

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and get people to be there.
And now these companies, these

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studios are spending 3 or 4.
$100 million per movie.

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And the fans are like, why are
you spending that much?

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You know, we're not going to go
running to the to the to the

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theater to see every release
that you put out.

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You know, in the midst of our
summer, we're not all going to

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cram ourselves into the the
studio, the, the theater to do

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it.
So you're wasting your money the

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fans never heard.
That care about how much money

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you spent.
I'm seeing that all over the.

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Place.
It's a, yeah, it's a new trend

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that that the fans are upset
that they're spending because

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now whenever you have a big
budget movie comes out, they're

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disappointed that it only made,
you know, 70 million dollars,

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$80 million, a $100 million
because the studios not only

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spent two, three, $400 million
on the movie, there's another.

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What is it?
Triple times the budget is the

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advertising campaign.
So they're spending all that

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money and they're like we're
expecting, yeah.

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Everyone's like this wouldn't
have been a flop if you didn't

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spend this much money on it, you
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And then every time a movie,
every time a kind of a big tent

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pole movie bomb, you have to,
you have to suffer through, you

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know, 60-70 hours of of, you
know, internal Internet flu

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speculation as to whether or not
this spells the end of the, you

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know, the the cinematic
industry.

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And people are just tired of
going through it.

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And it's like, you know, we just
didn't feel like we'll see the

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movie in like 15 days on on
streaming.

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Or whatever, yeah.
Yeah, so I'm I'm just not going

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to go spend money to sit down in
the dark room with a whole bunch

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of strangers when I can see it.
On my own, sitting on my sofa,

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whenever I feel like it, with
the whole what's probably

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happening?
True, right?

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Watching movies with a whole
bunch of St. strangers?

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No good.
But watching a Peep Show with a

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whole bunch of strangers?
Very good.

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Totally different experience.
You don't want to watch a Peep

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Show alone.
It's always good to have a man

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fully say next to you.
Yeah.

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At the risk of being prudish,
I'm not gonna comment on that

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because.
That we give too much away about

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myself, so I I I'll just say I
agree with you.

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Tell you what you got.
I would.

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I would be curious to find out
what the cosplay is.

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Think about this if it's an
advantage to them or a

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disadvantage, because now that
you have no talent, the special

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interest would be.
Cosplayers I.

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I.
That's that's true too.

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I guess the cosplay, it would
benefit the cosplayers, I

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believe, because there's less
attention taken away from them,

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right?
Less celebrities, less and and

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the character still exists, so
they can cosplay harder or

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getting more notoriety.
But do you think that will take

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away from the independent
creators?

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If the cosplayers are getting,
it's a balance.

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Everybody has to get a certain
amount of attention.

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There's no celebrities, no big
businesses.

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I.
Think the cosplays will take

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over as opposed to the
independent creators getting

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their due?
Well, I I think it would be a

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wonderful balance of the comic,
the indie comics or the and the

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cosplayers because, you know, it
would give the photographer

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something to do, you know?
What about you then?

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You said Nah.
Well, I think, I think this is

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the time for independent
creators, including cosplayers,

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anyone basically without a union
that's outside of Hollywood.

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It really is the time to thrive
and shine.

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This is not counting small
businesses and pizzerias in New

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York.
I'm talking like actors.

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Well.
Yeah, so on.

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In San Diego, it is.
Because I match on that.

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That whole town, as you know,
Mark, that they hope they depend

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on that, yeah.
Because everybody goes dressed

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to the the venues outside the
the eateries and they were all

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walking around the place.
So it does influence the little

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stores and pizzerias.
So if you're an independent

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creator making a book such as
myself, buy my book if I went to

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San Diego.
Is it now my chance to get

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picked up by the major companies
because they're in troll because

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the writers flag in the actors
flag this the time Or you're

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saying as an independent creator
because of the sales from there

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from the?
Coming from like every angle,

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not that I wasn't thinking that
you could get hired by the big

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company.
I was thinking that if you know

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how to produce and you have the
ability is you can make almost

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anything happen because you know
your competition.

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Is shutting down right now so
you can shine, You know, it's

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kind of like if Madonna sits in
the chair at her own concert,

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you can get on stage.
And hey, if people like you more

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than her, well, now you have the
eyes on you, you know?

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So Hassan, as an independent
creator yourself, but is this

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the time for jumping?
Is that what you're going to?

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Do I think now is always your
time?

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You know you can't wait for like
a special time to come up and

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for something to happen.
But right as things go, I think

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with.
With the the way the industry is

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changing and also with the
growing a I situation, whether

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that's a good thing or a bad
thing depending on your

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perspective.
I say the person who's going to

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have the leg up in the future is
going to be the IP owner.

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Someone who's created a, you
know, has a property or an IP of

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their own and that they, you
know, they're 100% fully in

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charge of it and they can sell
it or commercialize it at their

453
00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:56,700
will.
Because I don't think you know

454
00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:59,580
working for these giant
companies is is going to be too

455
00:23:59,580 --> 00:24:03,210
lucrative.
Going forward that's that's my

456
00:24:04,090 --> 00:24:08,050
super edgy prediction.
So I don't have any proof of

457
00:24:08,050 --> 00:24:10,290
that, but that's kind of the way
I see things changing.

458
00:24:11,050 --> 00:24:13,370
Already comedians, A lot of
comedians don't want to take

459
00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:15,130
cable shows.
I keep.

460
00:24:15,130 --> 00:24:17,170
I'm talking about comedians that
actually get paid to go on the

461
00:24:17,170 --> 00:24:18,730
road and do well and their
shows.

462
00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:22,170
It's not really advantageous to
have your own show, let's say on

463
00:24:22,170 --> 00:24:24,610
Fox cuz you can make more money
on the road.

464
00:24:25,550 --> 00:24:29,750
It's it's really a crazy time,
but I think I I keep on saying

465
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:32,350
this on our show that I think
this strike is going to be the

466
00:24:32,350 --> 00:24:35,030
one to end all strikes and it's
going to go on for way long.

467
00:24:35,030 --> 00:24:39,430
We're ready three months in.
Yeah, two months 2.

468
00:24:39,790 --> 00:24:42,790
Months and change.
So it's it's it's wild how I

469
00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:46,910
think so now we're just waiting
on the the drop from the the

470
00:24:46,910 --> 00:24:48,230
Actors Guild.
That's what we're waiting on

471
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:50,190
because it was supposed to be on
the 30th, but because of the

472
00:24:50,190 --> 00:24:52,270
holiday, they decided to extend
the deadline.

473
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,360
It's kind of got this strange
dynamic characteristic to it in

474
00:24:56,360 --> 00:25:01,120
the 1st place, because typically
it's David and Goliath, right?

475
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,360
And the and the the writers who
you would typically be with in

476
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:10,800
this particular battle are
fighting against technology, the

477
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,280
the, the burgeoning technology
and usually fighting technology

478
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,680
is a losing battle, but the
proletariat really does have to.

479
00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:23,140
Get what they deserve or else
the entire industry is going to

480
00:25:23,140 --> 00:25:25,100
crumble.
So it's going to be watching

481
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:27,180
them do it out.
It's going to be probably going

482
00:25:27,180 --> 00:25:30,820
to have lasting residuals for
three years to come.

483
00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:33,100
You know, I was thinking about
this last night real quick.

484
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:35,220
I was watching, I think Julia
Roberts daughter in a movie.

485
00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:37,020
And I was saying, you know,
people are all obsessed, you

486
00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:39,860
know, 2010 years ago, Julia
Roberts, we have these stars and

487
00:25:39,860 --> 00:25:42,340
it's like there's, you know, 50
stars total and everyone else

488
00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:44,180
isn't a star.
This is the year where everyone,

489
00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:46,420
their mother, can become a star
overnight and we don't need.

490
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:48,590
We don't have, we're not going
to have these old time

491
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:50,310
celebrities.
So say goodbye to the way it

492
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:52,070
used to be in the 90s.
It's it's done.

493
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:53,190
All right, less than a minute to
go.

494
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:55,270
We're going to do a 30 second
final thought.

495
00:25:55,270 --> 00:25:57,350
So sooner for the final saldino
final thought.

496
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497
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498
00:26:02,910 --> 00:26:04,350
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Jen Final thought.

499
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Floss your teeth every day.
Hasan, final thought.

500
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,640
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501
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502
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,040
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Great not to see you Hassan all.

503
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Right.
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564
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You know, this is Jennifer Elise
Feldman, AKAL man, and I'm with.

565
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:05,990
Well, I saw the trailer for this
movie and I'm very intrigued, so

566
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:08,070
I am with.
Alex Labos.

567
00:30:08,150 --> 00:30:11,750
I hear with.
I'm Alex Labos, producer of

568
00:30:11,790 --> 00:30:16,950
Unfixed.
And I'm Graham's director of and

569
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:20,230
we are a producing team and
we've been doing a lot of films

570
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:22,950
over the years and we've been
working hard since.

571
00:30:23,450 --> 00:30:27,050
Pre COVID to do a film that then
took a lot of adjustments and a

572
00:30:27,050 --> 00:30:31,970
lot of left turns and right
turns and flips and curvies to

573
00:30:31,970 --> 00:30:35,330
finally get done.
We shot during a pandemic and

574
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:39,810
here we are in 2023 just about
to do our world premiere at

575
00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:44,090
Dances with Films this Friday,
June 30th at the Man's Chinese

576
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:48,450
Theater in Hollywood with Dances
with Films.

577
00:30:49,340 --> 00:30:52,980
So now I only saw the trailer,
and this obviously focuses on

578
00:30:53,220 --> 00:30:56,420
gay conversion therapy.
Very intriguing.

579
00:30:56,420 --> 00:30:59,660
Could you just give the
listeners a little synopsis of

580
00:30:59,660 --> 00:31:09,060
what this movie's about?
Well, a lot of our films, our

581
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:10,340
company's called Imperative
Pictures.

582
00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:14,740
So a lot of our films touch on
the issues that are very

583
00:31:15,180 --> 00:31:19,200
relatable and topical.
And this movie deals with

584
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:25,760
conversion therapy and the
aftermath of the effects of a

585
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,840
person who has been put through
conversion therapy as a child

586
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,320
and how it has messed up his
mind.

587
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,080
And in order to move forward
with the love of his life who is

588
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,000
a woman, he needs to sort out
his sexuality.

589
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,960
And let me let me just back up
just for a second and say a lot

590
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,440
of the audience might know, not
know what conversion therapy

591
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,150
even is.
It's it's an Angel practice of

592
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:56,550
convincing, coercing,
conditioning a a person to in

593
00:31:56,710 --> 00:32:01,390
typical forms to go from if they
have an inkling or a desire to

594
00:32:01,390 --> 00:32:07,030
be homosexual, they will fix
them and change them back to

595
00:32:07,030 --> 00:32:12,550
normal healthy human beings to
be sexual in their their opinion

596
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:15,770
and.
It's done from everything back

597
00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:20,410
in history to from like torture,
Electro shock therapy,

598
00:32:20,410 --> 00:32:25,410
castration, chemical castration.
And then of course you have the

599
00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:28,930
religious sex where they're
doing like God doesn't want you

600
00:32:28,930 --> 00:32:31,450
to the you are broken.
You are sinful.

601
00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:34,650
You are imperfect human being
you are.

602
00:32:34,690 --> 00:32:40,250
You are unworthy of existing.
That and then through conversion

603
00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:44,150
therapy, whatever tactic it is.
You're you're basically telling

604
00:32:44,150 --> 00:32:47,790
someone they are not good who
they are and they have to fix

605
00:32:47,790 --> 00:32:51,070
themselves and I think we can
all kind of agree hopefully that

606
00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:54,830
we are who we are and we can't
change that to love and be that

607
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:58,510
person in fact embrace it.
So the only way you get passed

608
00:32:58,510 --> 00:33:01,670
or through therapy that satisfy
those who are trying to

609
00:33:01,950 --> 00:33:06,190
implement this change in you
your core human self is to admit

610
00:33:06,830 --> 00:33:10,030
or to concede and say I'm I'm
changed I.

611
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:12,870
I am new.
I have fixed myself, or you have

612
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:13,990
fixed me.
Thank you.

613
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:20,030
But then you live your whole
life in denial or if I was a

614
00:33:20,030 --> 00:33:22,990
fraud, because deep in your
heart, you know you're still

615
00:33:22,990 --> 00:33:25,350
that other person.
No, nothing can change you.

616
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:30,350
So in the case of the story,
this boy is being told he's

617
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:35,430
homosexual at the age of 11.
Because of his experiment with

618
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:38,670
another boy.
At 11:00 and then.

619
00:33:39,210 --> 00:33:42,690
Go.
And then he has to concede and

620
00:33:42,690 --> 00:33:45,730
say, yeah, OK, you're fixing me.
And his father's the one who

621
00:33:45,730 --> 00:33:48,730
fixes him because he runs a
conversion therapy camp, which

622
00:33:48,730 --> 00:33:51,010
is very popular.
In the 80s and 90s they were

623
00:33:51,010 --> 00:33:54,770
doing conversion camps and
anything from like Bible school

624
00:33:54,770 --> 00:33:59,130
studies to man camp to
psychiatrist and psychologist

625
00:33:59,130 --> 00:34:03,730
doing really torturous kinds of,
you know, conditioning.

626
00:34:04,330 --> 00:34:07,570
He now says he's straight and
goes on through life, but he

627
00:34:07,570 --> 00:34:10,940
loves this woman.
And he feels like a fraud.

628
00:34:11,060 --> 00:34:13,780
And he knows his heart.
He doesn't know in his heart yet

629
00:34:13,780 --> 00:34:17,300
because he has to figure out on
his own terms really who he is

630
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,380
as a human being.
Right.

631
00:34:19,460 --> 00:34:22,219
OK.
So two questions from all that.

632
00:34:22,219 --> 00:34:27,340
So after your research, what
percentage of people that are

633
00:34:27,340 --> 00:34:32,420
subjected to conversion therapy,
do you think it's involuntary or

634
00:34:32,420 --> 00:34:35,830
force that number one?
And #2, what percentage of

635
00:34:35,830 --> 00:34:39,469
people that graduate from
conversion therapy and say I'm

636
00:34:39,469 --> 00:34:42,469
fixed, I'm not gay anymore.
I love women, I love men,

637
00:34:42,469 --> 00:34:45,710
whatever it is.
How many do you think are faking

638
00:34:45,989 --> 00:34:48,909
the fixing?
Any idea on that?

639
00:34:48,989 --> 00:34:50,350
I mean, we can never know, but
yeah.

640
00:34:50,469 --> 00:34:54,389
Yeah, I think starting with your
second question, the answer is

641
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:59,760
100% fake it, I think.
And there are so many cases.

642
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,560
There's a organization called
Conversion Therapy Dropout

643
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Network that is a partner with
us for the film.

644
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,000
Because I did a lot of research
when we were building the story

645
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:16,040
up to understand people who have
survived conversion therapy and

646
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,920
they will argue and I think
everyone kind of you know, you

647
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,240
can't change the person.
So if you are.

648
00:35:24,380 --> 00:35:27,580
If you become heterosexually
practiced after conversion

649
00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:33,620
therapy, you you may be had
categorically heterosexual in

650
00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:37,660
practice, but you may not be
happy or nor you may not feel

651
00:35:37,660 --> 00:35:40,980
you are authentic.
So there's a difference about

652
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:44,020
what you actually practice at
the end of everything but who

653
00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:47,260
you truly are and what you're
hiding from everybody and

654
00:35:47,260 --> 00:35:52,380
keeping dormant and thus an
incomplete person who's living a

655
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:56,540
life as a fraud.
Right, right. 100% and then the

656
00:35:56,540 --> 00:36:01,100
other. 100% wow.
I'm guessing it's 100% you

657
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:05,540
cannot change a person.
It's not that sexuality or your

658
00:36:05,540 --> 00:36:10,420
identity is something you can't.
It's not to be questioned, you

659
00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:12,820
know.
It's proven that conversion

660
00:36:12,820 --> 00:36:20,740
therapy doesn't work you know so
and and our our story is about.

661
00:36:22,190 --> 00:36:24,550
Inflicting conversion therapy
onto minors.

662
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:26,550
Once you're an adult, you can do
whatever you want.

663
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:30,470
But when a minor does not have a
choice and they're put through

664
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:33,310
this, they could feel ashamed.
They feel.

665
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:36,430
Unworthy.
They can go through depression

666
00:36:36,510 --> 00:36:39,910
and they can also be suicidal
and that's a lot of what

667
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:42,990
happens.
You know, those are the the four

668
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:47,030
outcomes that could happen or
they could marry and have

669
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:50,910
children and have a horrible
relationship and.

670
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:54,570
By the time they're 70, they
decide to come out and their

671
00:36:54,570 --> 00:36:57,890
life is already kind of passed
them by, so.

672
00:36:58,730 --> 00:37:03,450
And the number of the statistics
on suicide for kids who have

673
00:37:03,450 --> 00:37:08,090
gone through conversion therapy
and either or either way is

674
00:37:08,290 --> 00:37:11,250
staggering.
Like 80 something percent that

675
00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:12,890
they considered at one point
another suicide.

676
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:14,670
So that leads to my next
question.

677
00:37:14,670 --> 00:37:18,230
So many subjected to gay
conversion therapy, they remain

678
00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:22,150
gay, but they become traumatized
and even suicidal.

679
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:24,990
So how can these people find
peace?

680
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:28,230
How can we help them?
How can they help themselves?

681
00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:32,630
One of the organizations that
are also supporting us on this

682
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:38,910
is the Trevor Project and they
are a hotline for troubled.

683
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:42,490
Conversion therapy survivors.
Of all people.

684
00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:48,690
For everyone.
But they also have have a huge

685
00:37:48,730 --> 00:37:53,730
support group in that for that
category of people who are are

686
00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:58,370
suffering through sexual
identity shame and you can call

687
00:37:58,370 --> 00:38:04,170
them and you know their guidance
to help talk people down the

688
00:38:04,170 --> 00:38:07,850
ledge of suicide suicidal
tendencies.

689
00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:10,030
Depression.
So.

690
00:38:10,270 --> 00:38:14,110
And I think it goes for a lot
of, you know, for every LGBTQ

691
00:38:14,110 --> 00:38:17,230
person or person who's just
franchised or feels, you know,

692
00:38:17,710 --> 00:38:20,630
they are less than what they
should be, they're they're

693
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:24,590
they're looked upon or told they
are not worthy of who they truly

694
00:38:24,590 --> 00:38:27,950
are.
It's the Trevor Project is great

695
00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:30,470
and just outreaching youth in
general, but they really do

696
00:38:30,830 --> 00:38:34,790
focus on the LGBTQ community
because we're so targeted right

697
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:39,120
now as a community and told.
Through legislation over and

698
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,840
over again that we don't have
the rights for things and we're

699
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,000
and we're not.
We shouldn't get married or we

700
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,400
shouldn't.
Kids who feel like they should

701
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,200
identify one way or told, you
know, stop it, be normal dress

702
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,920
like a boy or a boy or whatever
at a young age when it doesn't

703
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,320
even they don't even understand
sexuality yet.

704
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,320
They're just trying to be
something and they're being told

705
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,750
that.
They're wrong.

706
00:39:03,950 --> 00:39:07,070
Who they are is wrong.
Yeah, right, right, right.

707
00:39:07,350 --> 00:39:08,990
Okay.
So this, this one is going to

708
00:39:09,550 --> 00:39:13,350
totally switch gears and provoke
some ideas.

709
00:39:13,390 --> 00:39:15,270
Okay.
So some people think that

710
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:18,750
homosexuality and then the
desire to change genders, which

711
00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:22,590
is not the same but it's often
talked about in the same vein,

712
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:25,070
is the result of hormonal
imbalances.

713
00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:28,430
So there are pharmaceuticals in
the water, we know that and soil

714
00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:31,630
and that's shown and it's been
shown to influence many

715
00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:34,620
behaviors.
So one boyfriend of mine

716
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:37,700
actually thought he made a
compelling argument that a

717
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:41,380
friend of mine had decreased
masculinity and a more docile

718
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:45,340
and feminine persona because of
a very unhealthy diet, extreme

719
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:49,540
lack of exercise, which can
lower testosterone and it can

720
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:52,940
increase estrogen.
So what do you think of these

721
00:39:52,940 --> 00:39:56,620
opinions?
Yeah, I think you're right.

722
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:04,280
People don't realize that there
is sexual identity and then

723
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,760
sexual preference.
So if someone identifies as a

724
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,760
certain gender, it doesn't mean
that their preference can be

725
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,040
different.
So, you know, I can be a man and

726
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,520
prefer a woman, but if I wanted
to be a transgender and still

727
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,760
prefer a woman, it's still
possible.

728
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,530
So it's it's.
You know, so that's that's one

729
00:40:26,530 --> 00:40:30,450
thing that people don't realize.
And it's even as simple as this,

730
00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:33,890
Gen.
Let's say I'm Irish.

731
00:40:34,770 --> 00:40:37,450
I may want to wear a kilt.
I love kilts.

732
00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:39,570
I'm an Irish descent.
Kilt does a.

733
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:42,330
Dress.
That would be crossdressing.

734
00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:47,010
That would be a gay, a
stereotypically, oh, that's a

735
00:40:47,210 --> 00:40:50,290
gay thing.
That's a gender.

736
00:40:50,290 --> 00:40:54,010
Is that gender identity issue?
No, that's culture.

737
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,280
If I like baseball, I play
baseball.

738
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,120
But if I'm a girl, should I be
playing baseball or does that

739
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,080
make me a tomboy?
Suddenly now you are classic

740
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:07,480
something other than
neoclassical feminine women.

741
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,160
And that's where I think we get
in trouble because culture

742
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,840
different than sexuality.
We we play girls in pink and we

743
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,040
they do certain things and guys
do certain things and they're

744
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,560
blue and and that's the that's
the comfort zone of the classic.

745
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:27,500
So when we start crossing those
things and saying, look, I I'm a

746
00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:30,140
if I'm a woman, I should be able
to do anything that a guy does.

747
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:32,340
Or if I'm a guy should be able
to do, a woman does, and it

748
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:35,140
includes the culture as well
that goes along with the baggage

749
00:41:35,140 --> 00:41:37,540
of your gender.
But if the, like Alex said

750
00:41:37,540 --> 00:41:43,820
separate, than that is if I fall
in love with someone, I'm I'm

751
00:41:43,820 --> 00:41:48,260
open enough regardless of my
hormones, because my hormones

752
00:41:48,260 --> 00:41:50,620
might say I want a man or a
woman.

753
00:41:50,620 --> 00:41:52,940
But if you fall in love with
someone you love, that's.

754
00:41:52,940 --> 00:41:54,920
Not.
That's that's completely

755
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,440
different thing.
But to your also your your

756
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,920
question about the hormones.
Indeed we are in a in a society

757
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,040
now with it's a very hormone
skewed because of the foods we

758
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,480
eat and then what we're exposed
to and they do, they can change

759
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,360
And so for example women now are
going through a menstrual A

760
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,120
menstrual cycle 5-6 years
earlier than when I was a

761
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,160
teenager.
We are our bodies are changing.

762
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,840
But if a woman goes through a
menstrual cycle earlier, does

763
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,360
that still make her abnormal?
Abnormal.

764
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,240
No.
We are changing and we adjust

765
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:38,440
and we evolve.
And sure, chemical and hormonal

766
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,160
things can play an influence in
that.

767
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,320
Right, right.
But that's to say, if that

768
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,680
happens to you, do we reject
that person?

769
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,400
Is that are they now worthy of
being a person?

770
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,960
So it there's a good question
there and there's and there's

771
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,400
not a solid answer.
But also if you look back

772
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:04,320
historically, you'll see a
closeted wide sexual range of

773
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,520
people all through history way
before chemicals ever got into.

774
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,800
The.
Whole packaging.

775
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,120
So yeah, we are just prefaces of
saying.

776
00:43:14,570 --> 00:43:20,410
They it's here the some of some
of the greatest minds have come

777
00:43:20,450 --> 00:43:22,610
from that community.
And we just.

778
00:43:22,770 --> 00:43:24,890
Don't go back and refer to that,
yeah.

779
00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:28,770
Interesting.
So this might be the last

780
00:43:28,770 --> 00:43:31,170
question I think where it might
be at the end if you have to go

781
00:43:31,810 --> 00:43:32,370
we're.
Good.

782
00:43:32,370 --> 00:43:33,410
We're good.
Yeah, we're good.

783
00:43:33,730 --> 00:43:35,290
Still.
Yeah.

784
00:43:36,090 --> 00:43:38,930
So okay, good, good, okay.
So do you think that it's

785
00:43:38,930 --> 00:43:42,810
possible to 100% repress
hormonal urges?

786
00:43:43,150 --> 00:43:46,270
And actions in public and
private while living a healthy

787
00:43:46,270 --> 00:43:51,790
life.
I think it's possible to shield

788
00:43:51,790 --> 00:43:56,550
them absolutely anyone.
And in fact conversion therapy

789
00:43:56,550 --> 00:44:02,390
is really good at, if you look
at our poster for the film is A

790
00:44:03,790 --> 00:44:06,910
and that is a condition that
people do for like cigarette

791
00:44:06,910 --> 00:44:11,710
smoking conversion therapy if a
child is maybe shown.

792
00:44:12,070 --> 00:44:15,350
Pictures of someone that's that
arouses them.

793
00:44:15,470 --> 00:44:17,590
This is the wrong their
preference.

794
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:19,750
They will snap.
That so the condition through

795
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:22,510
pain and torture.
Whether it's arousal or not.

796
00:44:22,830 --> 00:44:26,590
Yeah, they until they are
repulsed by the idea of

797
00:44:26,590 --> 00:44:28,470
something.
So the repulsion which is a

798
00:44:30,030 --> 00:44:36,550
basically a PTSD at that point.
Will shut down the brain to say

799
00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:39,110
I cannot look at this.
You know I can't look at men

800
00:44:39,110 --> 00:44:40,150
anymore.
I get.

801
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:41,910
I get noshed.
I think men.

802
00:44:42,030 --> 00:44:45,430
I can't go to the gym and
everything just just irks me now

803
00:44:45,630 --> 00:44:49,710
because I've been conditioned
not to like men because it was a

804
00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:52,830
hormonal thing.
Whatever or a it is just who I

805
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:57,230
am as a person and I love this
and and you can go a lifetime

806
00:44:57,510 --> 00:45:01,350
scarred and damaged and be and
and and.

807
00:45:01,870 --> 00:45:04,990
Tortured mentally the rest of
your life based on these.

808
00:45:04,990 --> 00:45:09,030
Actions and practicing
homophobia just to repress how

809
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:13,030
you feel, Yeah.
You know, I would love to see

810
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:18,390
that for thieves like in
Singapore, Dubai, there's more

811
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:20,780
heavy.
Punishments for thieves and in

812
00:45:20,780 --> 00:45:24,580
New York where I'm now and maybe
the robber bank technique can

813
00:45:24,580 --> 00:45:26,940
help with that.
But and and if anyone if

814
00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:31,180
everyone is just my my opinion
if everyone took all the energy

815
00:45:31,220 --> 00:45:34,900
that they spent trying to
convert people's sexuality into

816
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:38,940
maybe making people not do
dangerous drugs and steal

817
00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:42,020
perhaps we'd have a better
culture because there's way too

818
00:45:42,020 --> 00:45:44,420
many hours and energy invested
into this.

819
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:47,620
I think it's just.
Just on a prior prioritization

820
00:45:47,620 --> 00:45:49,620
level, whether it's right or
wrong, you know, putting that

821
00:45:49,620 --> 00:45:53,700
aside of an order of our our
human needs, can we just, you

822
00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:56,820
know, drop this to the bottom
and maybe work on farming

823
00:45:56,820 --> 00:45:59,900
instead?
Exactly to that point alone.

824
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:04,740
I mean, people are considering
sexuality as a crime.

825
00:46:05,340 --> 00:46:10,020
They feel like they're trying to
fix somebody, condition them to,

826
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:14,060
you know, to be better.
And it's not.

827
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:18,540
Is not less than anyone else's
desires, you know.

828
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:22,020
So it's it's kind of like you're
right, we should apply those

829
00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:25,700
torturous conditioning to
criminals, but yet they're

830
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:30,220
applying it to decent people who
are just loving.

831
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:33,420
And so it's I think it's a shame
that that's being considered

832
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:36,780
putting that into that category.
I think torture is torture.

833
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:41,620
Are this and and and conversion
therapy has been deemed torture.

834
00:46:43,860 --> 00:46:49,020
In that case, you know, there's
better ways to to to to educate

835
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:52,540
people and to embrace people and
make them feel loved.

836
00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:54,580
I would say that if you go back
to the core of any criminal,

837
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,020
it's also the fact that they
don't feel like they have an

838
00:46:57,020 --> 00:47:01,300
opportunity they don't have.
You know, the the thing that we

839
00:47:01,300 --> 00:47:05,100
always go back to in this film,
and not to spoil the film in any

840
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:06,940
sense, but at the end of all
the.

841
00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:09,570
The hardship and all the drama
that goes on.

842
00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:12,050
If he's watch the trailer you
see it's it's a rough movie

843
00:47:12,050 --> 00:47:17,010
because it really is about man
who's scarred and yet he loves a

844
00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:20,170
woman and he really needs to
understand that he's not a

845
00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:23,290
fraud.
He's being told he's being told

846
00:47:23,290 --> 00:47:28,250
he needs must be one thing and
he knows he is that but he

847
00:47:28,450 --> 00:47:31,690
deepens in the back of his head
he's thinking am I something

848
00:47:31,690 --> 00:47:34,850
else because I as a child he
didn't get that chance to make a

849
00:47:34,850 --> 00:47:38,250
choice and.
And at the end of the film he

850
00:47:38,330 --> 00:47:42,010
takes all that pain and and with
everyone around him and they

851
00:47:42,010 --> 00:47:46,690
make it some positive, which is
a really good thing to be able

852
00:47:46,690 --> 00:47:51,130
to to to redirect the energy
into something positive.

853
00:47:51,370 --> 00:47:54,290
And and that's what we hope will
come out of the film as well,

854
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:57,610
that we'll see this journey and
we'll say wow okay how can we

855
00:47:57,610 --> 00:48:00,490
make a difference.
And so you know with us we're

856
00:48:00,490 --> 00:48:03,380
just making a movie but.
That audience needs to know that

857
00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:05,980
there is people like the Trevor
Project who are just going to

858
00:48:06,340 --> 00:48:08,900
everybody.
And then there's conversion

859
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:11,660
therapy drop at Network which is
really taking people who

860
00:48:11,660 --> 00:48:13,580
survived it and bringing them
together.

861
00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:18,060
And then we have Born Perfect,
which is truly embracing the

862
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:23,500
people who as they are and
filling that self love, but also

863
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:26,740
fighting legislation, the
hundreds and hundreds of new

864
00:48:26,740 --> 00:48:29,420
bills and laws that are being
passed this year alone.

865
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:36,150
Is record-breaking to shut down
the L, GB, TQ and women's rights

866
00:48:36,550 --> 00:48:42,470
is is staggering right now and
and and our theme at the end of

867
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:45,430
the film and we have these
bracelets that we we hand out to

868
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:50,590
everybody and you can't see it
but it says love yourself love

869
00:48:50,590 --> 00:48:54,990
yourself 1st and everything else
will fall into place and.

870
00:48:54,990 --> 00:48:57,390
That's.
That's that's the core of this

871
00:48:57,390 --> 00:48:59,830
whole thing.
Love yourself first.

872
00:49:00,130 --> 00:49:02,450
And everything else will fall
into place if everyone else can

873
00:49:02,450 --> 00:49:05,010
chime in and love them too.
That doesn't hurt, yeah.

874
00:49:05,330 --> 00:49:07,210
Does help.
It definitely does help.

875
00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:09,850
I mean, I try to live by Don't
let your compliments go to your

876
00:49:09,850 --> 00:49:12,370
head.
Don't let your fatigues you go

877
00:49:12,370 --> 00:49:14,690
to your heart.
But I took it too far and I

878
00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:16,290
started really ignoring
compliments.

879
00:49:16,290 --> 00:49:17,970
And then I found myself feeling
depressed.

880
00:49:17,970 --> 00:49:20,450
And I was like, wait a second,
why don't you take some of the

881
00:49:20,450 --> 00:49:22,570
nice things people say?
Because I didn't.

882
00:49:22,570 --> 00:49:25,410
I didn't want to get too high or
too low from anyone.

883
00:49:25,410 --> 00:49:27,730
I want it to come from here.
But you know what?

884
00:49:28,510 --> 00:49:32,150
I think we are humans and humans
are meant to be connected to

885
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:36,750
other humans on some levels and
it is it is a positive thing.

886
00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:40,310
I think after kind of banning
the the compliments for a little

887
00:49:40,310 --> 00:49:44,110
while to take in some positive
positivity from other people.

888
00:49:44,110 --> 00:49:47,350
Just temper it and don't take it
too much and don't take the

889
00:49:47,350 --> 00:49:49,270
negativity.
But I'll give you one last

890
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:52,430
question.
I'm not a very religious person.

891
00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:54,070
I've tried I studied different
religions.

892
00:49:54,070 --> 00:49:57,550
I go out to churches and temples
and you know I I just you know

893
00:49:57,550 --> 00:50:00,590
at a young age I couldn't.
Get on board with not eating

894
00:50:00,590 --> 00:50:04,270
bread and I didn't see how that
connected to my wellbeing, like

895
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:06,870
the Jews, the matzo.
So I just thought that was

896
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:08,190
ridiculous.
Amongst other things.

897
00:50:08,190 --> 00:50:10,870
I'm a very logical person not
putting down religion, but hey,

898
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:14,150
it's not for me.
So my question is how would you

899
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:19,990
see religion, specifically
Christianity, pushing conversion

900
00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:24,390
therapy to be used more or less?
And can we?

901
00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:30,460
Me practicing Christians, which
I'm not but many are, and live a

902
00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:32,900
healthy life, but you accept
yourself.

903
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:36,900
That's a tricky one.
That that's a.

904
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:38,900
Stigmatic.
Question and then we get.

905
00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:42,140
It that's the last one.
That you must take for.

906
00:50:42,140 --> 00:50:44,940
Apple.
Because it's it's the big one

907
00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:48,020
and and I would say the entire
our nation hinges on that

908
00:50:48,020 --> 00:50:52,420
question right now.
That's bigger than US community

909
00:50:52,420 --> 00:50:55,440
that is a national community.
Question that we're asking

910
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,880
ourselves because God is playing
a role in all of our decisions

911
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,240
right now and you have to
believe in God and that's a

912
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,480
presumption and that's like
saying I I presume everyone is

913
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,720
heterosexual.
I presume everyone is Jewish or

914
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:18,560
I everyone is is Christian and
that is a that is a can be a an

915
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,120
offensive assumption out the
gate.

916
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,480
Right.
And I don't know how we get past

917
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,520
that because first of all, if
you travel the world, there are

918
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,840
many, many different religions
and there are cultures that

919
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,720
don't have any religion at all.
All of them are good people.

920
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,400
They're all good people.
We're just trying to find an

921
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,840
answer to the fear of dying and
what is afterlife, you know?

922
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,720
But if you have a religion,
that's great.

923
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:50,120
I say just keep it to yourself
or in your party, but don't push

924
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,480
it.
But when you start using.

925
00:51:53,140 --> 00:51:58,620
Religion as a divisive tool or
as a tool to manipulate or to

926
00:51:58,620 --> 00:52:03,740
control, to downplay, to to
recruit.

927
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:07,660
It's dangerous I feel.
And it's it's not the.

928
00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:09,860
It's not the what?
What religion.

929
00:52:10,340 --> 00:52:11,820
Religion is something.
Yeah.

930
00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:14,580
It's not what it's meant to be
And so right.

931
00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:20,140
Like you I mean and just and
just between us like if religion

932
00:52:20,140 --> 00:52:22,260
were out of the picture, we'd be
a.

933
00:52:22,860 --> 00:52:27,580
A kinder world because love is
love and God doesn't.

934
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:32,700
If there is a God, I'd hate to
think he hates in any way.

935
00:52:33,980 --> 00:52:38,020
Yeah, yeah.
And I guess I will say one of my

936
00:52:38,020 --> 00:52:40,380
last experiences.
I've had some great experiences

937
00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:44,780
with religion recently.
But I did refuse to hug a guy at

938
00:52:44,780 --> 00:52:47,140
a podcast.
I don't think while doing a

939
00:52:47,140 --> 00:52:49,260
podcast I need to hug every
single person.

940
00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:50,380
I don't.
Why do we have to get that

941
00:52:50,380 --> 00:52:51,820
close?
I refuse to hug him.

942
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:56,000
And I got all these nasty
messages off later that actually

943
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,040
had me shaky, saying you need to
stay up all night and read the

944
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,200
Bible.
You should pray you're so

945
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,160
unprofessional.
Because I wouldn't hug him.

946
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,440
So their real religion was used
against me to try to coerce me

947
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:10,880
to, like, touch him.
Very strange.

948
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,440
Yeah.
Very strange.

949
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,440
You know, we're doing a whole
week of festival celebration

950
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,400
with all filmmakers across the
country.

951
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,520
And we all have our screening
dates coming up and people are

952
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,280
flying in and they're from
everywhere and they're every age

953
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:31,920
and we're all shaking hands and
drinking and this and that.

954
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,600
And it's risky there too.
And I feel sometimes I,

955
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,600
especially yesterday we were at
a party with filmmakers and

956
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,280
they're eating pizza and then
they.

957
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,400
And then they want to shake your
hands like I'm like, hey, no,

958
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,880
you know, take care of yourself.
You know, just eat your pizza.

959
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,760
Don't just.
Talk me out, Pick up your pizza.

960
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,400
We won't have to.
I mean, I'm all for germs and I

961
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,000
wear black, so I spell things.
But it's like we should have the

962
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,240
choice whether we want to get
close to someone or not.

963
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:59,040
And if you want to be straight
or gay or Tristan or Jewish,

964
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,400
whatever, we shouldn't be thrown
into some type of camp to touch

965
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,640
people or not touch people.
So to your point, Jen, right

966
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,000
there you're getting criticized
and getting hate for.

967
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,850
Not.
Hugging someone, that is.

968
00:54:11,890 --> 00:54:13,850
A.
And then religion comes into it.

969
00:54:14,250 --> 00:54:17,090
No, that's a religion, yeah, but
that's a cultural behavior.

970
00:54:17,290 --> 00:54:20,410
If you and Japan never hug
someone, you would bow.

971
00:54:20,770 --> 00:54:25,410
So by not complying to your
culture and what you're supposed

972
00:54:25,410 --> 00:54:28,850
to do according to something
that is man made is a fabricated

973
00:54:28,970 --> 00:54:32,490
behavior you're now considered
not good.

974
00:54:33,090 --> 00:54:34,370
Right.
That feels wow.

975
00:54:35,210 --> 00:54:37,770
Well, well said.
And I think I'm going to

976
00:54:37,770 --> 00:54:40,810
corporate bowing and I'm going
to have to cite you.

977
00:54:40,810 --> 00:54:42,410
I'm not kidding.
I mean, I do stand up.

978
00:54:42,410 --> 00:54:45,850
So I do a lot of crazy things.
I'm going to start bowing and

979
00:54:45,850 --> 00:54:48,130
I'm going to cite this interview
and I'm going to post this clip

980
00:54:48,170 --> 00:54:50,010
and I still listen.
I'm going to bow.

981
00:54:50,130 --> 00:54:53,330
We might not hug and kiss, you
know, maybe we'll do that later.

982
00:54:53,330 --> 00:54:56,210
But accept the bow from me.
So thank you guys.

983
00:54:56,930 --> 00:55:00,170
Before we go, please let
listeners viewers know where to

984
00:55:00,170 --> 00:55:02,970
find you.
Tell us, you know, social media

985
00:55:02,970 --> 00:55:07,380
links everything.
Unfixedmovie.com is where you

986
00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:10,660
can find our trailer and more
information about the film.

987
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:15,180
We are currently an official
selection of dances with films

988
00:55:16,220 --> 00:55:23,460
rated in the top ten of film
festivals in the US and we're

989
00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:31,660
screening this Friday, June 30th
at 7:15 PM at the TCL Chinese

990
00:55:31,660 --> 00:55:36,130
theaters.
And we hope that everyone could

991
00:55:36,170 --> 00:55:40,090
join us in our world premiere.
All the actors are going to be

992
00:55:40,090 --> 00:55:42,970
there and also our support
groups are going to be there

993
00:55:43,490 --> 00:55:46,330
especially to ever project and
they'll be giving out more

994
00:55:46,330 --> 00:55:49,250
information to about how you can
get involved with their

995
00:55:49,250 --> 00:55:52,890
organization to get on hotlines
or to help kids who are troubled

996
00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:54,650
and have questions or feel
suicidal.

997
00:55:54,890 --> 00:55:58,130
It's a good it's a it's our way
of bringing the community

998
00:55:58,130 --> 00:56:00,770
together to bring a family that
all kind of fighting.

999
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:03,980
For the same thing in their own
way, in their own lane.

1000
00:56:04,060 --> 00:56:05,380
Yeah.
In addition, yeah.

1001
00:56:05,660 --> 00:56:08,700
And in addition, conversion
therapy, dropout network, they

1002
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:13,260
help conversion therapy
survivors cope with the

1003
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:17,700
aftermath of having to go
through the process and still

1004
00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:22,900
dealing with the PTSD of
conversion therapy.

1005
00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:25,960
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much.

1006
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,600
And hey, if if any of your
actors don't show up, because

1007
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,240
sometimes that happens on the
director side, I know that

1008
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:34,320
happens, you can send them a
message and say you need God

1009
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,240
stay up and read the Bible all
night.

1010
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,240
And maybe that would coerce them
to show up to their next

1011
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,760
premiere because we know how
people can be flaky.

1012
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,400
All right, guys, thank you so
much and good luck with

1013
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,120
everything.
And I look forward to actually

1014
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,980
seeing the whole movie.
We'll send, we'll send it to.

1015
00:56:50,980 --> 00:56:54,020
You and we'll send you the link.
Yeah, these links, but these

1016
00:56:54,020 --> 00:56:56,020
very, very special people.
Yeah.

1017
00:56:56,740 --> 00:56:58,940
Beautiful guys.
Watch it on the big screen if

1018
00:56:58,940 --> 00:57:01,060
you can.
OK, Roblox, I appreciate the

1019
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:03,140
education and we'll see you
later.

1020
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:11,940
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1021
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1022
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