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going to have three separate
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Jenny Feldy.
She'll be interviewing author

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Paul Pape, author David S Cohen
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You're listening to a kid from
the radio.

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This is Jennifer Lee Spellman.
I've been very interesting guy.

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I was just listening to his Ted
Talk.

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He's a creator, he's a coach,
he's a consultant.

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He inserts magic into your work.
He can create almost anything

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you want, but he does design a
lot of very interesting things.

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You can check out his Ted Talk.
You know what?

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I'm not going to tell you who he
is because I don't like when

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people tell me who I am.
So Pape, welcome to a kid from

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the radio.
Could you let us know who are

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you?
What do you do?

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It's very interesting.
Thank you for having me on here.

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Yeah, so I am Paul Pape.
I'm a designer, fabricator and

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customs collectible maker.
That's my day job.

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So that's what earned me the
moniker of Santa for Nerds.

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And if you're watching my TE DX,
that's what that is called,

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Santa for Nerds.
I'm also a coaching consultant

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who teaches other creatives how
to be successful in business,

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which is something I'm very
passionate about, being an

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artist and a creative
understanding how to actually be

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successful at it and get rid of
the starving artist trope.

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That's what I'm all for.
Let's get into some of the

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things that you've created.
So you have been called Santa

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for nerds.
And I have a gigantic 12 foot

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high stand outside and I have a
Merry Christmas banner outside

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my house year round.
And I have light up candy canes

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because I call myself Santa, but
I'm Santa with a clause with

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CLAW.
I'm a little bit.

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Yeah.
But we're not going to go there

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because this is not, it has to
be radio friendly.

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And Santa Claus is not radio
friendly.

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Yours is TEDx friendly.
Mine is not at all.

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I'm actually going to get my
vows renewed on February 13th,

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ideally.
And I would like a wedding ring

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box.
And I saw that you created this

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magical wedding ring box.
So could you tell us our

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listeners describing in words
what you created?

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I'm a huge nerd.
I'm Santa for nerds.

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I know so many people who have
via nerdy endeavors, they really

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like Harry Potter together, they
really like Star Wars, or

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they're into this book or video
game or whatever.

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What I do is I bring that
information together and I

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create a custom ring box for
them that celebrates their

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nerddom, all the things that
make them nerdy and that they

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love about each other.
And I create a proposal ring box

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from it.
And then they can see in that

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box, I saw one of them that they
can see the person they're going

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to spend the rest of their life
with when they open the box,

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you're.
Talking about the mirror of

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Aracid which is a Harry Potter
themed one which shows you your

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deepest desires.
It's from the book and it's a

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mirror that you can see yourself
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But then when you press on
button, it magically lights up

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and shows you an image of your
future, which is typically an

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image of the guy and the girl
together or the guy and guy girl

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and girl, doesn't matter.
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those people in in it.
And then you open up the mirror

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and inside of it is the ring as
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So says it for nerds, what you
do coaching.

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I do makeup artistry and special
effects and film production, all

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this stuff.
So everything is creative up

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comedians, a lot of times
they're starving artists.

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I think out of every demographic
I work with, from like tennis to

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workouts to dentistry to real
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the most biggest group of people
that hit me up with starving

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artist text messages.
What would you tell a comedian

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who's a starving artist?
Truly, how do you help someone

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like this?
The first thing that I need to

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know about this person is what
is their passion?

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What are they truly good at?
I mean, if you're a comedian,

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obviously you're talking about
something that resonates with

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you.
That's the information you're

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bringing.
Nobody's just reading Knock

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knock jokes from a book.
And So what I need to know is I

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need to know what is that thing
that is some of them do, like

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some of them actually read, but
what is the what is the passion

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that you're really there for?
That's the thing I need to dig

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into first.
And once I know that, then what

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we do is we capitalize on it.
I mean, there are aspects of

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everybody because everybody's
journey is a little bit unique

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into how they got to where
they're at and why they present

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themselves in the way that they
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So for somebody like a stand up
comedian, I'd say, what is that

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thing that really makes you
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What's the thing that you give
to everyone else that no other

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comedians doing?
Because obviously you're

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bringing a unique show to the
game here.

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And so once I know that, then we
start to capitalize on it.

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So if they're starving artists,
couple things that I do is let's

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either get you on a show so that
we can promote you better get

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your name out there because we
really want to promote the

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person behind the work.
Books are a great way to do it.

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I know a lot of people don't
make good money at books, but

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comedians can because funny
sells really, really well.

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Other than that, I mean
merchandise.

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We can sell merch for days, but
we need that angle because if

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it's just a funny person on a
shirt, nobody cares.

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But if there's an angle on it,
if you got a catch phrase,

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something like that, that's
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What I really love with
something like that is we can

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find a catch phrase that we can
actually tie into an actual

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object even easier.
And then it's just that thing

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that either you're thrown out to
your to your guests at your

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shows or they're bringing to
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And so they're buying it and
then bringing it back to you for

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just for notoriety, those types
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That's the easiest way to do it.
It's really truly being honest

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about who you are and who you
want people to visualize when

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they think about you.
That's what you should be

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selling.
It's not about necessarily I'm a

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joke teller, I'm a comedian.
It's what makes you stand out

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from all the other comedians
that are out there one.

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Thing I think about a lot once a
month or something when it comes

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to promoting a movie or a song,
anything, even comedy.

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There's a book called The Artist
Seduction and you don't even

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have to read it.
You can understand what that is.

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I think that I do know at least
one comedian that has studied

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hypnosis because you have to
hypnotize or seduce your crowd.

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Whether you're selling this
microphone, you know, on TV or

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you're selling your only fans or
you're selling whatever you're

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selling yourself.
You want to get married, you

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have to seduce or hypnotize your
audience.

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Unless they're desperate and
then they'll take anything.

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Then you don't have to seduce
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But if they're people that have
1000 a million things to watch,

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why are they watching you?
So one thing I've butt heads

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with is some people just don't
seem to understand what the

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public thinks is interesting.
They seem to discuss them and

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push them away rather than
seduce them and draw them in.

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Is there any advice you have for
someone who perpetually repels

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people and bores them and
discuss them rather than seduces

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them?
Well, I think a big thing is you

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got to know who your audience is
because everybody's got their

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group out there.
And as much as I'd like to think

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that we all have millions of
fans, the true reality is we've

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probably got a few 100 to a
couple thousand fans.

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They're the ones who are going
to show up repeatedly.

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They're going to be the ones who
buy your merchandise, that kind

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of stuff.
And what you need to do is you

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really need to start selling
yourself to those people because

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you're obviously connecting with
them.

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And the way that you know that
you're connecting is because the

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everything that you say, it
resonates with them.

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They go, oh, that's totally me
or whatever it is.

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What we lose a lot when we're
trying to appeal to the masses

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is that we're just, we're kind
of muddying the waters.

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Everything turns Gray.
We're not staying true to who we

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are.
I mean, I love the yellow that

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you're wearing right now because
it really makes you stand out.

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Here I am wearing all dark
colors, but you're really

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popping.
If that was your signature, I'd

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expect to see that every single
time I saw you.

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And it's the same thing with
these people who are pushing

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people away.
It's like your comedy resonates

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with somebody or that
personality resonates with

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somebody.
You got to find out who those

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people are.
And if you're like, they aren't

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out there.
I've got this great example that

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I love to give people.
I was doom scrolling one night,

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really bored, and I saw this dog
show that was going on.

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It was, it was a video taken
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giant gymnasium packed with
people who were screaming and

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applauding and all that.
And you can see a guy standing

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there and he's having this dog
do tricks that are rolling over,

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sitting pretty, all this kind of
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And then the camera starts to
get closer and you realize

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that's not a dog, that's a
person in a GIMP suit.

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Oh wow.
I'm not here to kink shame what

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I'm.
Saying is if.

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That group can fill a gymnasium
of people who are applauding,

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who paid to be there.
You can find your people who are

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interested in the things that
you're putting out there.

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You just got to work a little
bit harder.

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And that's the great thing about
the Internet is everything is

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very connected.
And so it's not hard to find

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those people.
And then once you start to

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resonate with them, you start to
just build that momentum.

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And what's cool about that is if
you find those like 100 super

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fans, they'll talk you up.
They are the best form of

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advertising that you can get out
there because they're going to

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talk you up to their friends and
they're going to bring people

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like, oh, you got to check this
person out, whatever.

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That's what's really going to
help to sell you because you're

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being true to who you are and
it's resonating with the people

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that are truly out there to look
for you.

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True.
Just put aside this GIMP suit.

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Was he being walked on a leash?
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yeah, they're having them
flipping around and doing all

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sorts of things.
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That's funny because that's
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list for what we're going to
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We're going to turn my house
into a Bravo and the GIMP suit

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thing.
But I definitely want some guy

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to be walked around this house
on a leash for the movie.

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Deep shout out to Glenn McBride.
All right, so back to you.

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So now we're going to get into
the therapy section of the show.

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By the way, this is my grandma's
sweater.

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It makes me feel close to her.
I never wear yellow.

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And that's where marketing also
leads to betrayal and confusion

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because the person I am and most
of my videos is pretty much not

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who you're going to find in real
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I might even be the opposite
because this is a persona.

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And who I preserve myself.
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To the public is completely
different than who you're going

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to see at 3:00 in the morning at
my house.

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That's a little problems I've
had with this marketing thing.

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But anyway, psychology, you have
this self belief.

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I watched your videos on YouTube
and part of your coaching and

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part of your message is to make
people believe that they too can

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create something from nothing.
And you have three children.

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I'm sure you instilled that in
your children.

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It seems like I I haven't been
remote viewing your household.

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So I really don't know what goes
on.

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I mean, maybe you squash all
their dreams from day one.

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And if you're a highly abusive,
I mean, God forbid, I don't

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think that's the case, but I
don't, I don't, I don't like to

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comment on things.
I don't say how did you get this

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self belief in yourself that you
could do things?

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Because you need to know that
you can do something first.

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I think before you actually go
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to know that it might be
possible.

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So where did this self believe
come from?

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Did your parents instill this in
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What happened?
No, quite the opposite actually.

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It was.
I was beat down the entire time.

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Like you can't be this, we can't
do this.

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And I just have I'm a
belligerent person as far as

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like my beliefs in myself, like
I believe in myself probably

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more than anybody else ever
will.

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It's mostly because I'm just
trying to follow this random

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path that I'm kind of walking.
People say, you know, the path

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that I walk me, it looks more
like a bowl of spaghetti.

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I have no idea where the hell
I'm going.

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I really believe it.
The people I interact with, the

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the places that I go, the jobs
that I do, they are all for a

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purpose.
And that purpose is for me.

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That's you know that there's
that adage, you know, you should

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have a job in which you never
feel like you're working a day

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and you're life, you love it
that much.

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It's true.
I do love my job.

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I mean, there are days I hate
working, but I love what I do.

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So that belief has just been
something that's been with me

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since I was little because I was
kept being told you can't be

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this, you can't be this.
And to me, I'm more like, watch

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me.
It's, it's a self reflection.

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No one's going to have the
journey that I had.

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No one's going to have the
journey that you had.

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That's what makes you unique and
that's what makes you special.

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And we are now in a place in
history in which opportunity is

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literally presenting itself
daily with the ability to get on

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your phone, your device, and
just say who you are.

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There are people who are taking
advantage of this, who I would

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say are not on the up and up and
they're trying to be

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manipulative.
But there are other people out

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there who are just genuinely
trying to do the best that they

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can and try to inspire other
people for it.

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And that's really all I'm trying
to do.

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I just want to keep having fun
in my life, got to pay bills.

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So I want to keep doing the
things that I'm doing that allow

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me to do that thing.
And when I talk to other people,

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it's it's not so much that you
have to be born with this belief

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that you're great.
It's just that you have to know

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yourself well enough so that
when somebody comes to knock you

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down, you can stand right back
up again and be like, thanks,

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but no thanks.
It's very interesting that you

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said you were beaten down.
Did you have anyone?

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Was there a teacher or friends?
Was there one or two or ten

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people that were like, you're
amazing while you were beaten

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down at home?
Was there any sunlight or was it

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all internal?
Like I had these weird moments

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in my life.
I'll go to like 7th grade.

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We had to do this project where
we had to write to celebrities

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and we had to ask them what
their favorite book was.

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And I wrote to Jim Davis.
That's the guy who created

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Garfield the cartoon.
And then I wrote to Ray

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Bradbury, who's a very prolific
sci-fi writer.

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And I asked them both for some
fluke reason, I got responses

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from both of them.
It's little things like that

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where like the universe keeps
saying, keep doing what you're

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doing.
You're doing it right.

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And it's not necessarily the,
the people like I, I wanted to

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be a designer.
And so then I, I started

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designing some sets for a
theater is where I started.

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And then I'm like, oh, enter it
into a contest.

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I won the contest.
I'm like, OK, cool.

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I won another one where I I
literally the Prince of Monaco

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hosted a party in my honor at
the Waldorf Astoria in New York

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City.
The owner of Faberge came out

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and presented me with a, you
know, 1 of 10 Faberge eggs.

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Be like, you're a really cool
designer.

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It's stuff like that, that just
these things where the universe

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is like, keep doing what you're
doing, bud.

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It's, it's not necessarily now I
got a lot of people who are

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like, yeah, what you do is kind
of cool, you know, or you're

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nice or my kids are like, you're
an awesome dad.

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My, my oldest son, when he was
15 years old on Father's Day,

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the night before, he actually
wrote like 15 post it notes and

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post them all over my studio.
And they're just little

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affirmations of like, you know,
thanks dad, for turning me into

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the person I am.
You're very cool.

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I still have them all over here
because I didn't want to take

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them down because they're, it's,
it's a really nice thing because

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that one tells me that I did a
good job as a dad 2.

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It's like people are seeing the
work that I'm putting into it

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and it is work, You know, I'm
trying to live the best life

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that I can, being the, the most
helpful that I can.

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And I mean, the universe kind of
repays it.

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It's really nice.
Yeah.

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Wow, that's super cool.
Yeah, No, I grew up with a dad

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who he got a Lenski maybe in
business, a dental business, 13

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dental specials use the house.
He doesn't know what's going on

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in pop culture or, you know,
foreign affairs less if he

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doesn't know.
I saw that he can create houses

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and stair cases and decks and
teeth and it showed me oh, you

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know what?
Hey, like I have some of this

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genetics at least 50% or at
least, you know, 49% or

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whatever.
Maybe I can do these things too.

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And it's it's really cool that
you do that for your kids.

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And this is, you know, I have
many more questions, but we're

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at the end of the interview.
So if you you could give our

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viewers listeners use fly by
really fast, I would actually

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want to delve into every
question a lot more, but the

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short format, maybe another day.
So give us your final thoughts

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and where we can find you the.
Only thing I'd love to tell to

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your audience is life is an
adventure.

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Don't be an NPC which is a non
playable character.

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Be the hero of your own
adventure.

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Go out there and enjoy the
quest.

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That's what I would say.
You can find me at places like

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Gamify business.com, which is
where I teach creatives how to

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be successful in a game format.
We make life into a game as a

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role-playing game.
Or you can find me a Santa for

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nerds over Paul
paperdesigns.com.

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I also have a book that just
came out.

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It's on Amazon.
It's called Quit Selling your

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butt.
I'm sorry, that's not radio

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friendly, but it is.
But what it is is it is quit

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selling like creative people
first product selling first is

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going to kill your creative
business.

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You've got to sell the person
behind it.

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And that's really what this is
about.

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It's about becoming the person
who you are because you're more

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important than anything you make
and try and sell.

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So try and be the person.
So quit selling your stuff and,

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you know, sell yourself instead.
I love, I like, I love to be the

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hero of your own story.
I have so much going on this

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week.
And what I do usually involves

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creating something that's not
there.

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I mean, it's very seldom.
I'm just working in an office or

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doing routine things.
It's like a movie.

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I have to create a character.
I have to create how she poses

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and moves and get to a new
location and figure it out.

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And a lot of it for me causes
stress.

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I don't, I don't want to, you
know, miss cold times, whatever.

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But I love that it's a great
reminder to be the hero of your

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own story.
Cause who can save you but

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yourself really at the end of
the day.

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I mean, maybe your kids, maybe
your kids will come in and

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they'll save you.
If you know if you ever need

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help whenever you have a stomach
ache, maybe they'll bring you a

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modem or something.
I think they'll, they'll,

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they'll revenge my, my passing,
but they, I don't think they'll

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be there.
Right now, no, no, yeah, yeah,

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no.
I I'd love to see what your kids

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create with your genetics that
that'd be really cool.

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So stay tuned.
For 20 years from now, we're

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going to follow love with Paul
Tape's children to see what they

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created with all the knowledge
and wisdom that he's instilled

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in them.
And on that note, we're at the

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end of the interview.
Thank you very much.

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Check out this guy who creates
so many cool things that

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visually are obviously not seen
in this interview.

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So check it out.
You like Teenage Mutant Ninja

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Turtles, if you like Ted talks,
if you like creating things that

448
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,840
are just wildly imaginative,
check this guy out.

449
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,480
Pulpit over and Outback to Mark
Torres in the studio for more.

450
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,960
It came from the radio.
Hey everybody, this is Todd

451
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,080
McFarlane of the record setting
Spawn comic series.

452
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,120
And if you're looking for any
kind of cool conversation about

453
00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:06,080
creators, about entertainment,
about all that good stuff, you

454
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,600
go to It came from the radio.
You're listening to the.

455
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,720
Now back to our show.
You're listening to It Came From

456
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,280
the Radio.
This is Doctor Feldy.

457
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,800
Jennifer Lee Feldman.
I'm here with a very talented

458
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,000
guy, David Tefko, and he's a
producer, director, editor,

459
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,960
writer, magical creator.
He creates things from really

460
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,000
serious content, which is how we
met.

461
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,120
I actually acted for him in a
commercial, playing my least

462
00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:31,920
favorite role, a mom.
I don't like playing a serious

463
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,080
mom at all.
It's so boring.

464
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,520
I don't want to say the wrong
thing, and then I get scared.

465
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,800
But we also did head shots
together, and he has something

466
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,640
really cool that he did a long
time ago called finding Sandler.

467
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,520
What we're going to talk about
here he is David Seth Cullen.

468
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,320
What's going on?
Hey, Jen, thanks for having me.

469
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,480
So I'm glad we met, I guess.
I applied to be an actress in a

470
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,880
commercial.
I don't even know.

471
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:59,640
Yeah, I, I auditioned.
I sense an audition and it was a

472
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,600
commercial for an autistic
autism company.

473
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,840
My stepbrother is autistic.
So I actually wrote script about

474
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,440
my stepbrother.
It was helped out by his mother,

475
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,200
who's the mother of an autistic
son who lives in my childhood

476
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,240
bedroom.
Yes, that's how we met.

477
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,920
And you were really good.
The client actually chose you

478
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,280
out of whole bunch of people
that we had auditioned.

479
00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:21,960
You were great.
And it was a lot of fun to work

480
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,320
with you.
If I remember correctly, when we

481
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,360
had some downtime while, you
know, we were setting up, you

482
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,960
had told me that you were in
production as well, that you do

483
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,520
hair and makeup and special
effects makeup and all sorts of

484
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,280
stuff.
And I was like, maybe we could

485
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,800
connect on some other projects
and I could bring you on.

486
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,320
And you're like, yeah, that'd be
awesome.

487
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,360
And so Fast forward, we started
collaborating.

488
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,280
Right.
See, my most recent memory is

489
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,520
like when I think of you all
think of you know, you're

490
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,080
finding Sandler's cool.
We'll get to that and the the

491
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,120
ferry.
We did a lot of productions with

492
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:55,120
the Long Island Ferry and also
the Long Island the.

493
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,600
Lighthand.
Adventureland.

494
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,240
The Lighthouse.
The Huntington Lighthouse.

495
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:03,600
Yes, all these things where I'm
not a morning person and I got

496
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,520
myself somehow together in a
stupor and tried not to sweat

497
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,240
and try not to have be.
All while we're running around

498
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:16,200
salaries and and on boats and
explanched on and climbing up

499
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,160
lighthouses with no bathrooms
and producing very professional

500
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,920
commercial and narrative
content.

501
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,400
So tell us a little bit about
this.

502
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,360
I forgot about this.
Oh, well, that was for Discover

503
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:28,680
Long Island.
Yeah, that was cool.

504
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,440
It's a part of a YouTube series
that they that they have going

505
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,080
on called You Belong.
I ended up getting that gig

506
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,520
because of finding Sandler, the
documentary.

507
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,480
My film played at the Long Beach
International Film Festival in

508
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,880
Long Beach and because I was a
born and raised Long Islander,

509
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,640
had ties to the festival through
just being on in the Long Beach

510
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,200
area for so many years and
showing up at the festival.

511
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,320
And their PR person called me
and asked me to be part of their

512
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,920
media day.
I show up early.

513
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:00,920
You know how I am.
I show up.

514
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,560
Early.
Oh my God.

515
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,520
So I showed up early and there
was someone there that told me

516
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,960
she was from Discover Long
Island.

517
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,280
And we just got to talking and
she's like, oh, oh, you know,

518
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,080
what are you here for?
And I explained my film and you

519
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,960
know what?
I do corporate videos and stuff

520
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,760
like that.
And she was like, oh, the next

521
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,400
time we have some stuff, I'll
reach out.

522
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,240
And usually you get people that
say that and then it never

523
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,800
happens.
Like they never reach out.

524
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,760
But a year later they reached
out.

525
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,600
And that's how that whole thing
came to play.

526
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,440
That was really cool.
I really, I learned a lot from

527
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,640
that.
I had a great experience.

528
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,280
It was, it was fun.
It was it wasn't it wasn't too

529
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,600
difficult and well, not for me,
for you.

530
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,280
You had a lot of work to do.
These are kind of intense.

531
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:41,280
They're very high level
production videos.

532
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,120
Like for anyone listening, this
guy, David Seth Cohen does very

533
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:47,200
quality work.
If you want something to look

534
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,720
like top notch and you know, I
still teach work classes for

535
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,800
Equinox and New York sports
clubs and different tiers.

536
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,400
Equinox is like almost at your
top top.

537
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,560
I would say David Seth Cohen
commercial production is like

538
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,560
your Equinox level.
So if you want that, you hire

539
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,960
this guy.
You want something that's a

540
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,840
little more janky and crazy, you
hire me by myself.

541
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,520
And active.
Something that's wild, you know,

542
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,760
Even my video's a little blurry
right now because I don't care.

543
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,160
I care about the content and
making jokes and saying random

544
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,880
stuff.
You know, but it works for me,

545
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:22,960
it's, it's a matter of the
quality of the the video itself

546
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:25,440
as well as the content.
And that was one thing that I

547
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,160
really liked about those videos
that we collaborated on was not

548
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,000
only did it they look awesome,
but the what was said and the

549
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,720
way we kind of portrayed it in
doc style was fantastic.

550
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,840
And everybody that sees those
videos gives me high compliments

551
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,240
on them.
I've never had like somebody

552
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,960
say, oh, those videos suck.
Everyone's like really high end

553
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,880
videos and they've helped bring
in other business.

554
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,680
So it's a it's a great thing.
I mean, you made one of my

555
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,360
childhood dreams come true.
So I'm so glad that I did this

556
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:57,960
commercial for you and stretched
myself to play a mom.

557
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,040
What a difficult role for me.
It's, it's the worst.

558
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,200
You know, this is like asking
someone else to fall down down

559
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,800
the stairs.
Falling down the stairs.

560
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,320
I didn't real stunts is easy.
Plug them out.

561
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,760
It's difficult.
We shot at Adventureland.

562
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,440
So side notes, don't eat 2
bagels at like 1:00 in the

563
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,720
morning and then try to shoot at
6:00 in the morning because I

564
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,120
was dead asleep and in so much
pain.

565
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,200
But man, we were at eventually
at 6:30 in the morning before

566
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,600
the whole park opened.
I mean Adventureland and you

567
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,520
know you.
Didn't know this stuff Jen, but

568
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,200
like they were giving us about
an hour and a half Max for set

569
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,280
up and interviews the two people
in that room because we had to

570
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,520
be out of there before they
opened because that's when the

571
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,680
flood would come in of people.
Well, that I knew.

572
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,520
It was a, it was like time
pressure, but you know, we

573
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,920
pulled it off and everybody was
happy, so that was great.

574
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,680
When we weren't together, that
makes your dream come true.

575
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,120
Oh, yeah.
It was definitely one of my

576
00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:51,440
dreams.
It was so cool.

577
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,240
And one of the things we did
was, you know, everyone gets

578
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,640
into the park.
They basically open the

579
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,120
floodgates and all these kids
are running in and their smiles,

580
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:00,360
you know, they didn't have to
act at all.

581
00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:02,000
They were just so excited to be
there.

582
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,120
They're just like I was because
I used to go maybe even once a

583
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:06,320
week as a kid.
The haunted house is still there

584
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,160
and these kids were so excited
and we got to open the doors and

585
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,720
capture that.
And you made the video, by the

586
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,080
way, Jen.
Oh yeah, I mean it.

587
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,480
I forgot.
You know, your commercial

588
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,800
production is great.
We know that.

589
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Now.
You also have Finding Sandler,

590
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,520
which is really up my alley
because the whole reason I got

591
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,920
into anything video production,
believe it or not, was teaching

592
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,920
workout classes, which I fell
into by accident, and comedy.

593
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,760
My parents are the funniest
people I still know to the day.

594
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,520
You know, they're everything
they do, even dentistry.

595
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,880
My dad's telling jokes, you
know, with his hands in people's

596
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,040
mouths.
You know, he has an audience.

597
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,880
Yeah.
My mom's.

598
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,080
My mom's one of my favorite
people to write comedy with.

599
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:43,360
It's all about comedy.
Comedy.

600
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:45,640
So you have something called
Finding Sandler.

601
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,360
I've watched the trailer, I'd
say, at least six times since we

602
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,600
got acquainted.
So just tell us what the heck is

603
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,400
Finding Sandler?
In 1998, when I graduated

604
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,280
college, I worked on the movie
Big Daddy and the night of the

605
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,920
premiere for the Waterboy, Adam
Sandler wanted to wear clothing

606
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,120
from the set and I happened to
work for the costume designer,

607
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:04,920
which is pretty funny because
I'm color blind.

608
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,920
So she asked me to deliver these
clothes to Sandler's apartment.

609
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,160
There was a a woman named Autumn
who was another PA in my

610
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680
department.
I had to drive her home and then

611
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,080
I had to bring the car back to
the office and just go home for

612
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,040
the night.
So I went to Sandler's building.

613
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,360
It was in the middle of
Manhattan and I double parked

614
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,800
and I told Autumn I'll be right
back because I was instructed

615
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,480
just to give the clothes to the
doorman and then be on my way.

616
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,280
I go into the building, I give
the doorman the clothes and he

617
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,720
gives him back to me and he goes
just bring him up to Adam.

618
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,880
So I go up to his floor.
He's on like the 40 something

619
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,800
floor of the building, super
high building.

620
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,720
I get to the floor, I walk down
the hall.

621
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,080
I knock on the door and from
behind the door I hear who is

622
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,960
it?
What do you want?

623
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640
He started yelling at me like he
yells in his movies.

624
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,160
And I was like, oh, it's Dave,
I'm just APA here to deliver

625
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,000
your clothes for the premiere.
And he opened his door and he

626
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,080
had this big smile on his face
and he goes, hey, man, you want

627
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,520
to come in and hang out and have
a drink?

628
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,720
And I froze, thought going
through my head.

629
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,400
It was like an Angel devil kind
of thing.

630
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,680
Like the angel's like you got
autumn in the car.

631
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,640
You can't stay.
And the devil's like, dude,

632
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,880
stay.
He's like your hero.

633
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,080
You got to stay and hang out.
And and I ended up following the

634
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,360
Angel path and told him, look,
I, I can, I got autumn in the

635
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,640
car.
I got to get going and I gave

636
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,200
him the clothes and I and I left
and I never had the chance to

637
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,920
hang out with again.
Fast forward to 2006, I turned

638
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,960
30.
I'm living in my grandmother's

639
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,640
basement apartment.
I'm living with a girlfriend of

640
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,440
mine at the time and two dogs,
my two dogs.

641
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,200
And I'm a producer at a Catholic
TV station and I'm Jewish.

642
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,920
Not really where I thought I'd
be in my life at age 30.

643
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,320
And then?
I.

644
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Would have these nights where I
would toss and turn in bed

645
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,080
thinking like, ah, what if I
stayed and hung out with Adam

646
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Sandler?
Would he have given me some

647
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,000
advice?
Would something he said

648
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960
potentially have changed my
projectory?

649
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,160
And I had a dream one night.
And in my dream, I went to

650
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,720
California looking for him.
I somehow found him in in this

651
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,240
dream.
And we started walking and

652
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,920
talking.
And then I abruptly woke up.

653
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,040
And when I woke up, I was like,
this has to be a sign, you know,

654
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,040
whatever.
And I had a small production

655
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,760
company at the time while I was
at the TV station, called my

656
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,400
business partner and I told him,
I'm like, hey, Dan, I had this

657
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,120
dream and I want to try and find
Adam Sandler and have the drink

658
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,280
I passed up in 1998.
And he goes, hey, 6:00 AM.

659
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,720
Can we talk about this?
And I went in like I, I went

660
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,560
into the TV station, I told a
couple people like, hey, I had

661
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,040
this dream.
I want to make this movie called

662
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,240
Finding Sandler.
And a bunch of people offered to

663
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,920
help me.
And then we just started making

664
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,640
it.
That was it.

665
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,960
That's how it that's how it
happened.

666
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,600
You still haven't had that drink
with Sandler, right?

667
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,480
I mean, I know that, but no,
right?

668
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,480
I have not had the drink with
Adam Sandler yet.

669
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,840
Any plans like it's 2026 now?
I know it's 20 years later and I

670
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,560
have not released the film yet
either.

671
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,520
I've been kind of holding off to
like, say maybe he'll come

672
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,000
around or maybe somebody that I
know that knows him will

673
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
facilitate this thing.
I've actually made the decision

674
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,520
in my mind that if it doesn't
happen this year, I'm releasing

675
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,520
the film.
I'm not.

676
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,960
The question is where and how
and all that.

677
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,440
But yeah, this year 26.
Let's say, let's say you know

678
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,720
what, I could play God.
Or let's say someone could make

679
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,320
things happen.
What's your ideal outcome?

680
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,040
Do you want to just release the
movie or you want to meet him

681
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,880
this year?
Like what?

682
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,000
What are we doing?
Have the drink, then release the

683
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,240
film, all right?
Everybody listening, put David

684
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,240
Seth Cohen in touch with Adam
Sandler and have this drink and

685
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,000
it and it, you know, does it
have to be alcohol?

686
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,720
It could be kombucha, could be
water.

687
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,240
Green juice could be water.
I'm all about water.

688
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,280
I barely drink any alcohol
anyway, so I'm all for water.

689
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,480
Truth be told, even if he'd
rather have a joint or

690
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,120
something, I'm in for that too.
Whatever it is, I'm in.

691
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,600
That's what I'm talking about.
My bad.

692
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040
You know, I love the green.
This is the Green Day over here.

693
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,240
All right, so now you have a
future project, which we'll see

694
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,360
if I'm a good enough actress to
make the cut.

695
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,640
You know, I might be starring in
this.

696
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,840
We'll find out tomorrow.
Tell us a little bit about

697
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,880
what's coming up in the future
than the things you're working

698
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,560
on.
But what you're talking about is

699
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,480
a potential short film that I'm
going to do for fun.

700
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,160
I haven't, I haven't done like a
narrative film project in a

701
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,160
while.
And I've been having this itch

702
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,840
and I met this writer and he
wrote this script and I really

703
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,000
like it.
And we're just trying to

704
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,760
finalize, you know, how it ends
at this point.

705
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,400
And I'm going to share that with
you either later today or

706
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,240
tomorrow at the latest, that
short film.

707
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640
And then I've got a couple other
projects that are in

708
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,440
development, animated action
comedy series for adults called

709
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,520
Code of the Samurai.
Think like Deadpool meets a

710
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,920
Samurai kind of deal.
So it's a really great project.

711
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,520
I didn't write it.
It was written by my partner on

712
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,120
the project.
I think it's got a lot of

713
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,760
potential.
So I'm looking to get that off

714
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,920
the ground this year.
And then I'm also in talks to

715
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:50,120
potentially do biopic with about
a famous golfer.

716
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,440
I don't want to say who it is
yet.

717
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,440
I'm working on getting the life
rights together.

718
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,960
And once I have that, I can talk
a little more about that.

719
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,640
And then I'm also collaborating
on another like a romantic

720
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,560
comedy script with somebody.
I have a couple other projects

721
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,680
that are kind of on the shelf
right now that I'm looking to

722
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,200
start pushing again.
So this year is going to be a

723
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,160
little more of a push for the
film and television project than

724
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,800
I've done over the last few
years, which have mainly focused

725
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,360
based on, you know, corporate
videos, commercials, event event

726
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,560
video and photography and also
corporate photography, so.

727
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,040
Yeah, I'm glad to hear that
because I'm obsessed with

728
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,520
comedy.
I think you have a great eye for

729
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,040
it.
And you, you understand and

730
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,800
appreciate that quirky, comedic
way of being.

731
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,400
But you also like me.
I can be very serious and I can

732
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,880
come off even uptight.
And some people have even sensed

733
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,120
me.
They didn't even know I had a

734
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,480
sense of humor because I can,
you know, dull that out and be

735
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,840
just like a freaking computer.
And that's how you kind of have

736
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,400
to be when you're doing
commercial work.

737
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,960
It's it's, it can be a little
soul sucking, but.

738
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,120
We have fun.
We have fun on our sets.

739
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,200
Though we have fun, but I mean,
the craziness that goes on and a

740
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,120
comedy are horror.
I mean, I'm throwing stuff

741
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,080
across the room.
I'm breaking stuff.

742
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080
It's it's wild.
You know, it gets really crazy

743
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,840
and dirty and appropriate for
the radio.

744
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,960
And you can't really do that on
a commercial set for a client.

745
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,040
You don't do that.
And I will say David is also

746
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,880
very observant because before we
started, I was hoping he.

747
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,159
Would double glass.
Yeah, he, he, he notices little,

748
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,000
little nuanced things right
away.

749
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,520
And he's like, he got double
glass.

750
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,040
And I was like, oh, he called it
out before we even hit record.

751
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,239
Yeah.
What's in your hand?

752
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,360
Is that like a bracelet of
sorts?

753
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,880
What is that?
Oh yes, I don't know.

754
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,679
Someone gave me this bracelet
and I don't know whatever has

755
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,199
nothing to do with anything but
you.

756
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,719
Also, do you have anything about
like tennis?

757
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,520
Can we talk about?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

758
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,639
So the ball boy, the tennis
comedy.

759
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,280
Yeah.
Did you read that script yet?

760
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,040
I sent it to you.
I.

761
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,840
Read a few pages and I recommend
you an actor that I thought

762
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,360
would be great but I don't.
I don't want to leak too much

763
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,199
stuff, but from what I read, I
was like, dude, this guy knows

764
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:52,760
comedy, he's got to make this.
I loved what I read and I got to

765
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,159
finish reading it.
We had, we had raised two and a

766
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,400
half, $1,000,000 for that script
back in 2019 right before the

767
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,680
pandemic.
The problem was that we had six

768
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,280
months to match the money and we
weren't able to match it in the

769
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,360
six months time that the
investor gave us.

770
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,560
And we weren't allowed to use
any of the money to lock

771
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,840
anything in either.
It had to sit in the account

772
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,200
until we matched the money.
So it was kind of like it was

773
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,320
great to have the funds in the
account, but without being able

774
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,080
to use them, we weren't really
able to take it to the next

775
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,440
level.
And it got a little tough.

776
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,280
And I I was going through a
little life change at that

777
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,840
point.
I had gotten out of a long

778
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,840
relationship and sold my house
and moved into Manhattan.

779
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,120
So it was a different world for
me back then than it is today.

780
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,160
And so we'll see.
Yeah.

781
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,320
I'd love to get that project
back off the ground.

782
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,920
If if it's a really funny tennis
comedy, the ball boy.

783
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,360
You said it's a little like
Caddyshack, is that OK?

784
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,040
I said.
That it was called by a company

785
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,280
that read it, National Lampoon.
They called it like a Caddyshack

786
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,920
of tennis kind of thing when
they originally read it.

787
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,040
It is.
It's that kind of comedy.

788
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,840
I love it, yeah.
Everything and everything to me,

789
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,920
I played tennis since I was 6.
My dad plays like 3 to 5 hours

790
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,200
of tennis, you know, every day
on the weekends.

791
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,560
He's tennis obsessed.
I used to be tennis obsessed,

792
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,240
Caddyshack obsessed.
I even used to see my life in

793
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:15,640
terms of Caddyshack.
I worked at a rehab center and I

794
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,000
had a boss.
I was like Lacy and Chevy Chase

795
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,200
and the rebellious like this
boss was always pissed off at me

796
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,440
and he's like wear khakis.
And I even, I even did physical

797
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,680
therapy with a guy who acted
like the judge.

798
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,680
You know, there are these
uptight people, you know, So,

799
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,280
yeah.
Maybe.

800
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,560
Maybe Doctor Feldy wants to help
finance it.

801
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,360
Yeah, I I will do whatever I
can.

802
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,280
If I believe in a project, I get
a little fanatical about it,

803
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,720
which I think is.
It's a fun problem.

804
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,600
It would be a lot of fun to
shoot that.

805
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,160
I mean, there's a lot of like,
ridiculousness in there.

806
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,120
I love it.
And, and there's like some, you

807
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,400
know, sexiness, you know, the
guy's like, you know, attractive

808
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,680
and you have sports and you have
playfulness and jokes and

809
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,000
sometimes things can just be
ugly and gross and funny.

810
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,000
But I feel like you could but
also get some type of beauty and

811
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,600
sexiness in there with the
characters, which I like.

812
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Yeah, it's got a little bit of
everything in it.

813
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,760
Got hearts, got comedy,
slapsticky and not slapsticky

814
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,880
and it's it's a fun project.
Maybe too many jokes about Dick,

815
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,800
but we'll see.
We'll.

816
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:19,640
See, I'll read the the.
Main character's name is Randy

817
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Balzak, so.
That's great.

818
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,080
On that note, we are overtime as
usual.

819
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,760
Sorry, Mark Torres, I've
probably like 5 minutes overtime

820
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,440
here.
Just give us your final thought

821
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,320
real quick and tell us where we
can find you.

822
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Websites.
Social media.

823
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,920
My websites David Seth cohen.com
If anybody has any projects,

824
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,480
corporate work or films, they
need a director, producer,

825
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,440
editor, whatever they can reach
out.

826
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,080
There's a contact form on my
site.

827
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,560
My Instagrams David Seth Cohen,
my Facebook's David Seth Cohen

828
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,560
my Twitters David Seth Cohen
One.

829
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,960
Although I don't go on it much,
I think TikTok is also as real

830
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,000
David Seth Cohen.
We're done with the interview.

831
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,520
Sign down back to the studio
with it came from the radio.

832
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,720
Now back to our show.
You are listening to It Came

833
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,480
from the Radio.
I'm with Gregory Chaffee.

834
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,560
He's a professional actor, poet,
novelist, director, professor,

835
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,440
and I worked with him recently.
I, I, I was a makeup artist, but

836
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,640
we're for our first right away.
We're going to go right into it,

837
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,560
right into the meat.
He did a short film, produced

838
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,280
the short film and direction.
I did indeed and wrote it.

839
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,600
I Co wrote the the screenplay
absolutely.

840
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,960
And what's it called?
It's called Beyond the Silent

841
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,360
Night.
It's a 9/11 tribute.

842
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,680
So tell us about that.
Welcome to the show.

843
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,920
Thank you so much.
And also quick shout out.

844
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Fantastic makeup artist here.
The work we just did together

845
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,240
I'm very excited about.
Beyond the Silent Night is a

846
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,040
tribute to the remembrance of
911.

847
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,120
It's a short film that just
entered the festival circuit, so

848
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,120
the idea is later this year, in
time for the 25th anniversary,

849
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,120
we'll have a film about that
topic ready to go.

850
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,000
I came about because I teach at
night at Nassau Community

851
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,640
College, and I have an adult
student who was really an FBI

852
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,760
agent, and he wrote this short
story and I read it and I said,

853
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,520
this is brilliant.
If you ever wanted to make it

854
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,600
into a film, let's do it.
And eventually he's like, now is

855
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,720
the time because the anniversary
is coming up.

856
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,240
So we made this film, and it's
really interesting as a short

857
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:18,520
film, but it's about a FBI agent
on the verge of retirement, and

858
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,440
he has to journey through a
bewitched New York City to give

859
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,360
something to someone, but we
don't know what it is or who it

860
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,200
is.
So it has like some Christmas

861
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,360
Carol vibes and it takes place
on Christmas Eve.

862
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,960
I'm working on a lot of
Christmas themes movies right

863
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,800
now actually with Glenn, like
Brad Junior is one of your

864
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,640
actors.
We have pull outs Christmas

865
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,320
themed deep, which we're going
to shoot the rest of deep here

866
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,280
because shooting at motels
socks.

867
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,200
So I said no, we're just
shooting here.

868
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,320
I'm I'm done.
We're not.

869
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,280
We're not going to another
without silver set designing

870
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,400
this.
So I'll be with Glenn.

871
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,160
Yeah, so Christmas seems to be
the motif of your life.

872
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,840
So, OK, so a little bit more
about this 9/11 tribute.

873
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,040
Now you're the guy was an FBI
agent.

874
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,360
Does he have any real stories
from being an FBI agent in this

875
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,800
film?
So when 911 happened 25 years

876
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,040
ago, he was a new FBI agent and
that was actually like one of

877
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,720
his first cases.
And his short story actually

878
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:12,360
takes place on the Christmas Eve
after 911.

879
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,200
But now that that's kind of 25
years is considered a period

880
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,680
piece.
We can't really create New York

881
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,680
City on an independent budget
like that looks like 25 years

882
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,880
ago, like the cars and the
buildings are different and

883
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,040
everything.
And so we decided to update the

884
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,520
film and actually make it take
place right now instead.

885
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,560
So it's kind of full circle for
Robert Duffy, who's the the

886
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,840
original writer, because now the
film is about an agent at the

887
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,760
very end of his career instead
of the very beginning of a

888
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,320
career.
Very interesting.

889
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,680
So it's totally switching gears
now.

890
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,520
So rap music's kind of like
poetry?

891
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,520
Sure, I got a lot of raps, like
a freestyle.

892
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,240
So what makes a bunch of writing
a poem rather than like a short

893
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,840
story or a haiku or a diss
track?

894
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,520
There is no formal definition of
poet.

895
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,560
Poetry certainly does not have
to rhyme.

896
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,160
It does not have to follow a
very specific aesthetic.

897
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,680
You know, the old adage is like,
if it kind of looks like a poem,

898
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160
it's probably a poem.
But now we have something called

899
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,200
prose poetry, which looks like a
short story and almost reads

900
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,280
like a short story, and people
have all different feelings

901
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,280
about it.
The point is that anything can

902
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,920
technically be a poem.
We all have our preferences of

903
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,120
what poem, what poems are.
If you put it to music, right,

904
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,680
is it still a poem or is it now
music?

905
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,080
Is music the same as poetry?
Something can be poetic and not

906
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,280
be poetry.
And so, yeah, everyone's has

907
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,840
their own definition.
But I will say you'd like this.

908
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,520
A lot of modern poetry, I go to
the city a lot for poetry, and a

909
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,680
lot of it is definitely inspired
by sort of 90s hip hop.

910
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,280
Yeah, absolutely.
So do you perform your poetry at

911
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,760
open mic?
Yeah, all the time here on Long

912
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,920
Island.
There are some great ones.

913
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,840
I actually run one.
It's called Beats by the Beach.

914
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,640
It takes place every 3rd Friday.
Follow us on Instagram.

915
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,840
And I run it along with Paula
Kersey and Peter Dugan, who are

916
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,240
both former poet laureates.
So they're like the real and you

917
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,080
go up on the mic and it's an
open mic so anyone can come and

918
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,800
perform a poem or two.
What if the poem is more of like

919
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,440
a rat?
What's also cool is I actually

920
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,880
have made these poetry films.
It's called Poetry in Motion and

921
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,600
the second one's about to come
out in April.

922
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,880
And basically what we did, we
took 12 poets and poems and we

923
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,760
shot poetry videos in the style
of old school music videos.

924
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,920
But it's not music, it's poetry.
And so it's more performative.

925
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,880
It hits a little harder than
what some people might expect

926
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,600
from poetry.
And so it's really interesting

927
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,960
poetry motion.
We threw up all of last year's

928
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,440
on YouTube, so if you just
search it, you can get all 12

929
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,640
videos.
And we're gonna premiere the

930
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,800
next one in April at the
Oceanside Library for a poetry

931
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,240
month.
So it's gonna be dope.

932
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,240
You know, for me, I don't know
what it is.

933
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,680
Maybe I was supposed to be born
as a man Actually psychic told

934
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,840
me that I was a black pimp in my
last life.

935
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,880
Anything that feels a little bit
girly or not like super masked.

936
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,560
And I just aside from makeup,
I'm into some girly things, like

937
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,480
makeup's pretty girly poetry.
I always felt like, ah, that's

938
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,840
for girls, like yoga.
People like, oh, you're yoga,

939
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,480
you do yoga.
I'm like, Nah, that's for girls.

940
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,440
What would you say to a man
who's like, Nah, man, not poetry

941
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,920
is not masculine.
Like, is it masculine?

942
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,360
Can we make poetry?
Masculine.

943
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,800
Once you go to a few open mics
and you realize what it can be,

944
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,520
you're like, oh, this is not
what my preconceived notion

945
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,120
thought it was like, you know,
in high school or something.

946
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,560
In school, you think, oh,
poetry's like love, love stuff,

947
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,440
flowers and butterflies.
And then and then, you know, you

948
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,120
get on the scene and it could be
about anything.

949
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,200
It could be quite hard hitting.
It could be about politics or

950
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,360
history or the world or rock
music or like it could a poem

951
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,480
can literally be about anything.
And people really think outside

952
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,400
the box is also just funny,
hilarious poetry.

953
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,240
And you can go there and just
laugh hysterically at these at

954
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,920
these poems and not what you
tend to think of, but a poem can

955
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,120
be anything.
And to be honest, in many open

956
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,000
mics there is just as much men,
if not more men than women on

957
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,000
the mic.
Your book?

958
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,840
Now you have another one.
Or is it summer in heat or?

959
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,680
Something so summer heat Poems
of passion.

960
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,000
Very erotic.
It is.

961
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,160
They are passion poems, however
you want to sort of characterize

962
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,640
them, which isn't necessarily my
Forte, but I had enough where I

963
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,160
put together a collection
expired, let us say.

964
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,640
Various lovers helped compile
the book inspirationally, which

965
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,800
I am ever grateful for in all
the ways.

966
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,320
Oh, it's great to have loved and
now your current book, which

967
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,560
just came out.
Poetic Anarchy is my first full

968
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,240
volume collection of poetry.
Everything I've ever written is

969
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,040
in there.
All the poems from all the chat

970
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,160
books are in there, so it's
everything.

971
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,240
It's also why I call it anarchy
'cause there's no rhyme or

972
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,400
reason or theme.
It's everything mashed together.

973
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,400
It feels like the closing of 1
chapter.

974
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,440
Like anything I write after it,
it's a brand new start for me as

975
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,080
a poet.
Beautiful artwork by a local

976
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,240
Huntington artist, Diego Garcia.
It's a great if you like poetry,

977
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:51,520
you're interested in it and
you're not sure what poetry can

978
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,120
be.
This has everything in there

979
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:56,560
from the love poems to the hard
hitting poems to maybe a poem

980
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,520
that you're like, you know, this
could be like a rock song or hip

981
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,520
hop song.
Yeah.

982
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Maybe you'll make a music video
about some of.

983
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,600
Them I actually am planning
project where we are putting

984
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,160
some music to my poetry.
OK, Music.

985
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,720
Yeah, that hasn't been quite
announced, but you can be on the

986
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:15,080
lookout for it.
Yeah, I think that's where I

987
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,000
mean, you know, books are still
around, people are still reading

988
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,000
books.
I heard there's making a

989
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,600
comeback.
Love that, you know, but there's

990
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:25,120
audio books are very popular and
and video like we're in the, I

991
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,360
think the age of video, right?
Take any of your work and make a

992
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,280
video.
That's probably a good idea.

993
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,280
Yes, like shorts, you know hard
hitting vertical videos, you

994
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,240
know like the the influence of
social media and the yeah you

995
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,240
have to play the game anyway,
whatever.

996
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:42,480
However, you can best get out
your work right.

997
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,000
Do all the things.
So now you have to work with a

998
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,480
bunch of different actors, which
have all different types of

999
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,640
personalities.
Sure.

1000
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,600
We worked at the film.
I I just did makeup.

1001
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,480
Did I?
Yeah, I just did makeup, little

1002
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,880
effects makeup for a film called
A Mother's Voice.

1003
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,120
You directed, You did not write
it, but you definitely directed

1004
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,080
and produced it with your
partner, Emily de Nova.

1005
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,160
Yes.
So Emily.

1006
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,600
Yeah, she's great.
Emily and I are creative

1007
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,640
partners.
We run G&E production.

1008
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,040
Yeah, it launched into 2018 and
we try to make a film per year.

1009
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,600
And a mother's voice is very
different for us.

1010
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,240
It's a legal courtroom drama.
I've never done that.

1011
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,840
We've never done that.
It was my first time directing

1012
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,000
something that I starred in, so
that was also wildly different.

1013
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,720
And I'm not sure something I
want to do again.

1014
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:30,440
I kind of like like one or the
other.

1015
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,040
I've I've directed things that
I've had smaller roles or

1016
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,200
supporting roles, but it is
tough.

1017
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,160
But it's independent film and
you know, your crew is limited

1018
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,480
in scope and all of a sudden
when you can't be the director,

1019
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,400
can't see what's on the monitor
because you're in it.

1020
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,880
You know, you have to rely on
other people.

1021
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,720
Luckily, I mean, we had great
artists.

1022
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,800
Matt Simskins, it's phenomenal
director of photography and

1023
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,600
Emily was the assistant
director, but she was also in it

1024
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,160
obviously, as we were both it.
So it was a wild drive, but

1025
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,480
that's a great one.
That's another story of a former

1026
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,200
adult student of mine who is a
lawyer, wrote that for my class.

1027
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,520
So I I did watch it evolve with
my input like, but he is the

1028
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,400
true sole writer of it, John
Dito.

1029
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,280
And I happily directed that one
as well.

1030
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,440
And also had a great, great role
as sort of an ambitious young

1031
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,320
lawyer trying to go up against
the system.

1032
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,880
It's all about, I guess, infant
deaths.

1033
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,000
Like infants?
Yeah, I was inspired by the

1034
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,440
Grieving Families Act, which is,
is is not a law that is, that is

1035
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,280
passed here in New York State.
But it kind of questions the

1036
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,720
idea of how much grief and
suffering do we award, you know,

1037
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:42,880
the parents who has, who have
lost a loved one?

1038
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,480
Yes.
What is the value of a life?

1039
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Yes.
That success would say you're so

1040
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,120
inappropriate.
How much is your dead child

1041
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,840
worth?
Not verbatim, but that is

1042
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,680
basically a line in the film
that someone who's posing the

1043
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,440
idea of the bill says, played by
Glenn.

1044
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,960
Actually, that's that's his
role.

1045
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,200
Opposing.
Kind of like the bad guy.

1046
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:04,360
He's not the bad guy, but he
kind of needs to play both sides

1047
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,040
of it for political purposes
because that is his function,

1048
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,440
his job in the film.
That's his role.

1049
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,560
So he he kind of gets to play
both.

1050
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,840
We're really excited about it.
Came out really well.

1051
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,320
It's still editing room right
now.

1052
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,360
We had some ambitious takes.
We had a whole courtroom scene

1053
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,240
that was a winner.
A1 take no cuts.

1054
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,160
And so we did the whole thing.
It's like almost 3 pages long,

1055
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,520
which for a short film, you
know, it's it's intense and you

1056
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,960
don't you don't see that very
often in legal dramas, right?

1057
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,960
Normally like it's locked off
because it's very intense.

1058
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,280
But like we wanted to pick up
the whirlwind of what it's like

1059
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,880
to actually be in a courtroom
because John took me to a real

1060
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,280
courtroom to prepare for the
film.

1061
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,400
And I watched a medical
malpractice case.

1062
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,000
And the one thing that I did not
realize is how intense and

1063
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,960
intimidating it is in real life.
Like I was just sitting there

1064
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,280
there watching and I'm like, oh,
like this is a performance.

1065
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,040
Yeah, yeah.
And so that's, and it started

1066
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,000
clicking both as a as an actor
playing a lawyer and as the

1067
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,040
director of how I wanted
everything to feel and look.

1068
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,680
So it's there's some exciting
shots in there.

1069
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,640
Lawyers that'd be really sharp
and I think if everything that

1070
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,320
can happen and they I think
ahead and I'm so flattered that

1071
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,880
two people two years ago was one
year asked me if I was a lawyer

1072
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,040
or attorney.
Like thank you so much.

1073
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,600
Thank you so much.
So I feel similar when we were

1074
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,800
filming right after we were done
her on break on on lunch break,

1075
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,040
a few of the crew members asked
me if I was a lawyer in real

1076
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,080
life.
And I jokingly told them the

1077
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,840
truth that I literally had had
no idea what any of these words

1078
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,200
meant when I first got the
script.

1079
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,520
Like I had to learn what all of
these terms and this legalese

1080
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,640
even meant like.
And luckily I had, you know,

1081
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,720
John who wrote the thing, who is
a lawyer and he like really

1082
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,440
meticulously went down the line
with me what everything means

1083
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,960
it's.
Harder to learn those lines at a

1084
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,520
regular script.
It's like a different language.

1085
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,640
Exactly.
It's literally like a different

1086
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,040
language.
And he was, he was telling me he

1087
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,600
he asked me to even rehearse
with him.

1088
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,840
And it's like, Glen, you got to
find someone who's less busy

1089
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,440
than me or fully packed
schedule.

1090
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,160
So find some freaking loser like
I'm too busy.

1091
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,720
But anyway, no, no.
Well, yeah, actually, yes, yeah.

1092
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:11,040
Find someone who has free time.
And they don't have to be a

1093
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,200
loser to have free time.
You can be a very great person

1094
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,320
to have free time.
So no shades people have free

1095
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:16,920
time.
I was very busy that weekend.

1096
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,240
I'm sorry I didn't help you
hurt.

1097
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,480
When you have these legal terms,
it's a different language.

1098
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,640
Yeah, it's tougher for any
actor.

1099
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,240
Yeah, how?
Skilled, you are right.

1100
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,440
Yes, it was definitely a
challenge, but that note from

1101
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,320
those crew members really made
me feel feel warm and fuzzy

1102
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,920
inside about the performance.
And you know what, just to let

1103
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,040
you know, even though I am a
makeup artist, I work in

1104
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,160
production.
I've actually did this at a law

1105
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,480
commercial.
Like I said, the Law Group and I

1106
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,600
said I want to just use the
teleprompter.

1107
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,120
I have teleprompter apps on my
phones.

1108
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,840
I've sure teleprompter app.
I saved the freaking day because

1109
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,040
this lawyer would have taken
like 3 hours.

1110
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,600
Yeah, can't do that.
For a lawyer to say all these

1111
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,160
terms on camera, it's difficult.
For an actor who doesn't know

1112
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,400
the legal terms.
Yeah, this is legal.

1113
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,920
Terms on camera are kind of
difficult.

1114
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:03,600
Absolutely.
And the formative aspect on top

1115
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,920
of it, whether you're a lawyer
or not, when you have that

1116
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,000
language and you have to perform
in some way like the commercial,

1117
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,520
it's doubly challenging.
Yeah, I was trying to make

1118
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,360
everyone feel better.
Yeah, everyone's having a little

1119
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,160
bit different difficult times,
so it's definitely a.

1120
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,040
I do feel like that's the skill
of yours.

1121
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,840
Try to make people feel.
Yeah, yes, yeah.

1122
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,720
Well, I usually make some people
nervous.

1123
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:25,800
I've been told that or they're a
little scared.

1124
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,680
I've been asked someone standing
right there if I am a vampire

1125
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,920
and if I And then he said if if
anyone was going to eat people,

1126
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,840
it would be you, yeah.
I do scare, I see the scared

1127
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,200
thing too, but also
simultaneously, well, a calming

1128
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,080
vampire if you will.
Killed anyone?

1129
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,760
Yeah.
I did steal a lip gloss from CVS

1130
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,200
once when I was much younger.
Nice.

1131
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,880
But yeah, sometimes, you know,
like to kind of play God.

1132
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,640
And I like to.
If I have the power to make

1133
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,800
something easier and better and
calmer, I will.

1134
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,800
Sure.
But if I think you're horrible,

1135
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,400
I think I'll just leave you
alone and I'll let you just just

1136
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,840
suffer, you know?
Sure is where I'm at now.

1137
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,000
I can't I can't come in to save
everybody.

1138
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,640
Anyway, back to you.
So now I I have to talk about

1139
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,760
Emily de Nova before we close
out.

1140
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,280
Emily was phenomenal.
She just really stood out.

1141
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,320
You know, I've been lucky to
work with a lot of great people

1142
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,440
this year and she definitely
stood out.

1143
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,520
She was like so organized.
She kept people on time.

1144
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,080
You know, she had to yell at
people.

1145
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,400
She wasn't afraid to yell
people.

1146
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,240
She actually loves yelling at
people.

1147
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:25,240
What's your favorite thing?
Yeah.

1148
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,240
As makeup artist was like, tell
me 30 seconds for it, you know,

1149
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:33,360
give me a countdown, you know,
and she also is into martial

1150
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,880
arts and I used to teach workout
classes.

1151
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,240
So for me, I look at filming as
an athletic event or, or an act

1152
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:42,120
of going to war.
So you might have seen me coming

1153
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,080
in and it might have been like
this girl's going to war.

1154
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,360
She's carrying all the stuff,
she's wearing fitness clothes

1155
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,320
because I you have to be ready
for anything to run across a

1156
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,680
field or or have different
wardrobe options because we

1157
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,160
might be outside in the.
Hole.

1158
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,720
Or we might be somewhere hot.
So.

1159
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:59,240
So what are the great things
about working with Emily?

1160
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:01,600
Because she's just so on top.
Yeah, she's the best.

1161
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:04,080
Fit and she's smart.
And yeah, yeah.

1162
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,760
And if you are running 30
seconds behind, she would just

1163
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,840
karate chop you from the the
martial arts.

1164
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,680
So she, you know, she really has
it all.

1165
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,400
I mean, the fact that she was
able to just pop in as that

1166
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,080
character, she is the mother's
voice, right?

1167
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,120
She plays the mother in the film
who loses her child.

1168
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,200
That's the first scene in the
movie.

1169
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,600
So it's not a spoiler.
She is phenomenal.

1170
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,040
And then to just pop out and
switch out and start directing.

1171
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,040
But this is what we do.
When we created Genie

1172
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,840
Productions, we said we are
Renaissance artists.

1173
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,520
Yeah.
We do it all.

1174
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,480
We write, we act, we direct, we
produce the whole kit and

1175
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,720
kaboodle.
Yeah.

1176
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:39,400
It's been a, it's been a
wonderful journey.

1177
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,640
We met both, got cast in Tony
and Tina's wedding, and then we

1178
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,760
played Tony and Tina for like, I
don't know, almost a decade or

1179
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,440
something.
Yeah, I mean, we still do it.

1180
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,200
We still do it separately.
She'll go on tour and like, I'll

1181
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,080
go on tour, other things like
that.

1182
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,560
Married couple kind of
chemistry.

1183
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,280
Sure, you know, you're not
married, but you know, you can

1184
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,320
have the difficult conversations
on set to get it done, which is

1185
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,640
what you need to do a film set.
You need to be able to be

1186
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,040
redirect with someone and with
someone.

1187
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,560
Sure.
And you guys have all that

1188
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,440
together.
So you're a great, you know,

1189
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:10,640
duo.
Thank you.

1190
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,800
It was just really cool that you
guys work together.

1191
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,320
Yes, absolutely.
It's it's always, it's always a

1192
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,240
blast and we always try to work
together.

1193
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,360
Yeah, I I totally get that.
I'd want her on every set.

1194
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,280
And someone, I think it was Tara
Westwood saw her and she was

1195
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,080
like Tara W was one of the
actresses that was in your film.

1196
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,480
She was phenomenal also.
And she liked the way I did her

1197
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,960
hair.
So I I listen on my makeup

1198
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,640
before hair.
So I don't know how good this

1199
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,440
is.
She's like, it's great.

1200
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,040
But anyway, you know, plug,
plug.

1201
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,600
She she saw Emily working.
She said, I need you on every

1202
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,040
set.
Like, wow, this is great.

1203
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,400
So anyway, enough on Emily.
We are actually at the very end

1204
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,840
of the interview.
So you have about two minutes to

1205
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,960
give us your thought of the day.
Anything that's weighing heavily

1206
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,960
or lightly or anything you think
we should know.

1207
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,680
And then also where to find you,
your websites, your socials,

1208
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,080
anything coming up?
Firstly, I would just say be on

1209
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:06,400
the lookout for our upcoming
works Beyond the Silent Night.

1210
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,520
Hopefully it'll get into a bunch
of New York spaces, so just keep

1211
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,160
an eye out for that one.
And A Mother's Voice will also

1212
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,480
be on the verge of of of a
premiere later this year.

1213
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,040
If you if you're into poetry
like we discussed again, check

1214
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:27,080
us out at Beats by the Beach
every 3rd Friday in Long Beach,

1215
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,600
NY.
It's an open mic.

1216
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,760
It's a lot of fun.
Kind of.

1217
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,280
I always encourage people to
expand, you know, their comfort

1218
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,840
zones and what they think is, is
art.

1219
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,920
And I think art is honestly is
the thing that keeps me going.

1220
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,280
It keeps me most fulfilled in
life.

1221
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,240
And so if you have a creative
outlet, whether you're a

1222
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:50,440
professional artist or not, I
think it's a wonderful thing.

1223
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:50,960
Yeah.
Yeah.

1224
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,440
Well, question.
Yeah.

1225
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,000
You.
Can answer in 30 seconds for a

1226
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,520
minute.
Work life balance.

1227
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,960
Do you think it's important?
Do you want to have it?

1228
00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,760
What?
What do you think?

1229
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,360
I mean, having a work life
balance can get in the way of

1230
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,280
being successful because you're
putting your time into things

1231
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,720
that don't have to do with your
work.

1232
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,920
So.
So what are your thoughts on

1233
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,320
that?
Yeah, Final, final, final.

1234
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,520
Thought it's a tough one but
essentially I feel like my work

1235
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,920
is my life yeah everything I do
is not just like a job that I go

1236
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,440
home.
It is part of a lifestyle,

1237
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,320
whether it is being a professor
at Long Island University, like

1238
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,080
whether it is being a writer or
an actor or director, it

1239
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,480
encompasses my life.
It envelopes my life.

1240
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,920
And that's kind of how I like
it, how I, I want it.

1241
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,920
I think I have tunnel vision and
successful people I feel like

1242
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,240
often have tunnel vision is what
I've observed.

1243
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:38,480
So when you want to go and do a
thing, you have to put, I don't

1244
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,280
want to like half, you know,
anything, you know, like I

1245
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,720
really want to go for it.
So it is.

1246
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:45,000
But it's a wonderful life to
have.

1247
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000
It's a different life.
It's a different lifestyle.

1248
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,560
Many won't understand you can't
do the quote UN quote normal

1249
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,400
things, but you get to do other
things and it's a it's a

1250
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,440
beautiful life.
It's a beautiful thing.

1251
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,800
Yeah, where can we find you?
Instagram.

1252
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,320
Website, Yes.
Instagram Genie Productions.

1253
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,400
Gregory Chaffee.
We have a website,

1254
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,520
genieproductions.com.
I'm on Facebook.

1255
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,640
Feel free.
You know the deal.

1256
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,160
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1257
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,560
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1258
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:21,040
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1259
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:26,000
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1260
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,000
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1261
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,880
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1262
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,840
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1263
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,240
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1264
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,120
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1265
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,800
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1266
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:50,240
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1267
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1269
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,640
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1270
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,040
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1271
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,640
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1272
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,840
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1273
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,400
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1274
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,760
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1275
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,720
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1276
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1277
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,760
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