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4:37 You're listening to a kid from the radio. This is Jennifer Lee Spellman. I've been very interesting guy. I was just listening to his Ted Talk. He's a creator, he's a coach, he's a consultant. He inserts magic into your work. He can create almost anything you want, but he does design a lot of very interesting things. You can check out his Ted Talk. You know what? I'm not going to tell you who he is because I don't like when people tell me who I am. So Pape, welcome to a kid from the radio. Could you let us know who are you? What do you do? It's very interesting. Thank you for having me on here. Yeah, so I am Paul Pape. I'm a designer, fabricator and customs collectible maker. That's my day job. So that's what earned me the moniker of Santa for Nerds. And if you're watching my TE DX, that's what that is called, Santa for Nerds. I'm also a coaching consultant who teaches other creatives how to be successful in business, which is something I'm very passionate about, being an artist and a creative understanding how to actually be successful at it and get rid of the starving artist trope.

5:31 That's what I'm all for. Let's get into some of the things that you've created. So you have been called Santa for nerds. And I have a gigantic 12 foot high stand outside and I have a Merry Christmas banner outside my house year round. And I have light up candy canes because I call myself Santa, but I'm Santa with a clause with CLAW. I'm a little bit. Yeah. But we're not going to go there because this is not, it has to be radio friendly. And Santa Claus is not radio friendly. Yours is TEDx friendly. Mine is not at all. I'm actually going to get my vows renewed on February 13th, ideally. And I would like a wedding ring box. And I saw that you created this magical wedding ring box. So could you tell us our listeners describing in words what you created?

6:15 I'm a huge nerd. I'm Santa for nerds. I know so many people who have via nerdy endeavors, they really like Harry Potter together, they really like Star Wars, or they're into this book or video game or whatever. What I do is I bring that information together and I create a custom ring box for them that celebrates their nerddom, all the things that make them nerdy and that they love about each other. And I create a proposal ring box from it. And then they can see in that box, I saw one of them that they can see the person they're going to spend the rest of their life with when they open the box, you're. Talking about the mirror of Aracid which is a Harry Potter themed one which shows you your deepest desires. It's from the book and it's a mirror that you can see yourself in. But then when you press on button, it magically lights up and shows you an image of your future, which is typically an image of the guy and the girl together or the guy and guy girl and girl, doesn't matter. But it shows your future with those people in in it. And then you open up the mirror and inside of it is the ring as well.

7:11 So says it for nerds, what you do coaching. I do makeup artistry and special effects and film production, all this stuff. So everything is creative up comedians, a lot of times they're starving artists. I think out of every demographic I work with, from like tennis to workouts to dentistry to real estate, stand up comedians are the most biggest group of people that hit me up with starving artist text messages. What would you tell a comedian who's a starving artist? Truly, how do you help someone like this? The first thing that I need to know about this person is what is their passion? What are they truly good at? I mean, if you're a comedian, obviously you're talking about something that resonates with you. That's the information you're bringing. Nobody's just reading Knock knock jokes from a book. And So what I need to know is I need to know what is that thing that is some of them do, like some of them actually read, but what is the what is the passion that you're really there for? That's the thing I need to dig into first. And once I know that, then what we do is we capitalize on it. I mean, there are aspects of everybody because everybody's journey is a little bit unique into how they got to where they're at and why they present themselves in the way that they do.

8:15 So for somebody like a stand up comedian, I'd say, what is that thing that really makes you stand out? What's the thing that you give to everyone else that no other comedians doing? Because obviously you're bringing a unique show to the game here. And so once I know that, then we start to capitalize on it. So if they're starving artists, couple things that I do is let's either get you on a show so that we can promote you better get your name out there because we really want to promote the person behind the work. Books are a great way to do it. I know a lot of people don't make good money at books, but comedians can because funny sells really, really well. Other than that, I mean merchandise. We can sell merch for days, but we need that angle because if it's just a funny person on a shirt, nobody cares. But if there's an angle on it, if you got a catch phrase, something like that, that's really what's marketable.

8:56 What I really love with something like that is we can find a catch phrase that we can actually tie into an actual object even easier. And then it's just that thing that either you're thrown out to your to your guests at your shows or they're bringing to you. And so they're buying it and then bringing it back to you for just for notoriety, those types of things. That's the easiest way to do it. It's really truly being honest about who you are and who you want people to visualize when they think about you. That's what you should be selling. It's not about necessarily I'm a joke teller, I'm a comedian. It's what makes you stand out from all the other comedians that are out there one. Thing I think about a lot once a month or something when it comes to promoting a movie or a song, anything, even comedy. There's a book called The Artist Seduction and you don't even have to read it. You can understand what that is.

9:40 I think that I do know at least one comedian that has studied hypnosis because you have to hypnotize or seduce your crowd. Whether you're selling this microphone, you know, on TV or you're selling your only fans or you're selling whatever you're selling yourself. You want to get married, you have to seduce or hypnotize your audience. Unless they're desperate and then they'll take anything. Then you don't have to seduce them. But if they're people that have 1000 a million things to watch, why are they watching you? So one thing I've butt heads with is some people just don't seem to understand what the public thinks is interesting. They seem to discuss them and push them away rather than seduce them and draw them in.

10:25 Is there any advice you have for someone who perpetually repels people and bores them and discuss them rather than seduces them? Well, I think a big thing is you got to know who your audience is because everybody's got their group out there. And as much as I'd like to think that we all have millions of fans, the true reality is we've probably got a few 100 to a couple thousand fans. They're the ones who are going to show up repeatedly. They're going to be the ones who buy your merchandise, that kind of stuff. And what you need to do is you really need to start selling yourself to those people because you're obviously connecting with them. And the way that you know that you're connecting is because the everything that you say, it resonates with them. They go, oh, that's totally me or whatever it is. What we lose a lot when we're trying to appeal to the masses is that we're just, we're kind of muddying the waters.

11:09 Everything turns Gray. We're not staying true to who we are. I mean, I love the yellow that you're wearing right now because it really makes you stand out. Here I am wearing all dark colors, but you're really popping. If that was your signature, I'd expect to see that every single time I saw you. And it's the same thing with these people who are pushing people away. It's like your comedy resonates with somebody or that personality resonates with somebody. You got to find out who those people are. And if you're like, they aren't out there. I've got this great example that I love to give people. I was doom scrolling one night, really bored, and I saw this dog show that was going on. It was, it was a video taken from like the doorway and a giant gymnasium packed with people who were screaming and applauding and all that. And you can see a guy standing there and he's having this dog do tricks that are rolling over, sitting pretty, all this kind of cool stuff.

11:50 And then the camera starts to get closer and you realize that's not a dog, that's a person in a GIMP suit. Oh wow. I'm not here to kink shame what I'm. Saying is if. That group can fill a gymnasium of people who are applauding, who paid to be there. You can find your people who are interested in the things that you're putting out there. You just got to work a little bit harder. And that's the great thing about the Internet is everything is very connected. And so it's not hard to find those people. And then once you start to resonate with them, you start to just build that momentum. And what's cool about that is if you find those like 100 super fans, they'll talk you up. They are the best form of advertising that you can get out there because they're going to talk you up to their friends and they're going to bring people like, oh, you got to check this person out, whatever.

12:31 That's what's really going to help to sell you because you're being true to who you are and it's resonating with the people that are truly out there to look for you. True. Just put aside this GIMP suit. Was he being walked on a leash? Yeah, walked on a leash and then yeah, they're having them flipping around and doing all sorts of things. Yeah. That's funny because that's actually going to be on a shot list for what we're going to shoot here. We're going to turn my house into a Bravo and the GIMP suit thing. But I definitely want some guy to be walked around this house on a leash for the movie. Deep shout out to Glenn McBride. All right, so back to you. So now we're going to get into the therapy section of the show. By the way, this is my grandma's sweater. It makes me feel close to her. I never wear yellow. And that's where marketing also leads to betrayal and confusion because the person I am and most of my videos is pretty much not who you're going to find in real life.

13:20 I might even be the opposite because this is a persona. And who I preserve myself. Yeah. To the public is completely different than who you're going to see at 3:00 in the morning at my house. That's a little problems I've had with this marketing thing. But anyway, psychology, you have this self belief. I watched your videos on YouTube and part of your coaching and part of your message is to make people believe that they too can create something from nothing. And you have three children. I'm sure you instilled that in your children. It seems like I I haven't been remote viewing your household. So I really don't know what goes on. I mean, maybe you squash all their dreams from day one. And if you're a highly abusive, I mean, God forbid, I don't think that's the case, but I don't, I don't, I don't like to comment on things. I don't say how did you get this self belief in yourself that you could do things?

14:08 Because you need to know that you can do something first. I think before you actually go and create something, you have to know that it might be possible. So where did this self believe come from? Did your parents instill this in you? What happened? No, quite the opposite actually. It was. I was beat down the entire time. Like you can't be this, we can't do this. And I just have I'm a belligerent person as far as like my beliefs in myself, like I believe in myself probably more than anybody else ever will. It's mostly because I'm just trying to follow this random path that I'm kind of walking. People say, you know, the path that I walk me, it looks more like a bowl of spaghetti. I have no idea where the hell I'm going. I really believe it. The people I interact with, the the places that I go, the jobs that I do, they are all for a purpose. And that purpose is for me.

14:52 That's you know that there's that adage, you know, you should have a job in which you never feel like you're working a day and you're life, you love it that much. It's true. I do love my job. I mean, there are days I hate working, but I love what I do. So that belief has just been something that's been with me since I was little because I was kept being told you can't be this, you can't be this. And to me, I'm more like, watch me. It's, it's a self reflection. No one's going to have the journey that I had. No one's going to have the journey that you had. That's what makes you unique and that's what makes you special. And we are now in a place in history in which opportunity is literally presenting itself daily with the ability to get on your phone, your device, and just say who you are. There are people who are taking advantage of this, who I would say are not on the up and up and they're trying to be manipulative. But there are other people out there who are just genuinely trying to do the best that they can and try to inspire other people for it.

15:42 And that's really all I'm trying to do. I just want to keep having fun in my life, got to pay bills. So I want to keep doing the things that I'm doing that allow me to do that thing. And when I talk to other people, it's it's not so much that you have to be born with this belief that you're great. It's just that you have to know yourself well enough so that when somebody comes to knock you down, you can stand right back up again and be like, thanks, but no thanks. It's very interesting that you said you were beaten down. Did you have anyone? Was there a teacher or friends? Was there one or two or ten people that were like, you're amazing while you were beaten down at home? Was there any sunlight or was it all internal? Like I had these weird moments in my life. I'll go to like 7th grade. We had to do this project where we had to write to celebrities and we had to ask them what their favorite book was.

16:26 And I wrote to Jim Davis. That's the guy who created Garfield the cartoon. And then I wrote to Ray Bradbury, who's a very prolific sci-fi writer. And I asked them both for some fluke reason, I got responses from both of them. It's little things like that where like the universe keeps saying, keep doing what you're doing. You're doing it right. And it's not necessarily the, the people like I, I wanted to be a designer. And so then I, I started designing some sets for a theater is where I started. And then I'm like, oh, enter it into a contest. I won the contest. I'm like, OK, cool. I won another one where I I literally the Prince of Monaco hosted a party in my honor at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City. The owner of Faberge came out and presented me with a, you know, 1 of 10 Faberge eggs. Be like, you're a really cool designer.

17:07 It's stuff like that, that just these things where the universe is like, keep doing what you're doing, bud. It's, it's not necessarily now I got a lot of people who are like, yeah, what you do is kind of cool, you know, or you're nice or my kids are like, you're an awesome dad. My, my oldest son, when he was 15 years old on Father's Day, the night before, he actually wrote like 15 post it notes and post them all over my studio. And they're just little affirmations of like, you know, thanks dad, for turning me into the person I am. You're very cool. I still have them all over here because I didn't want to take them down because they're, it's, it's a really nice thing because that one tells me that I did a good job as a dad 2. It's like people are seeing the work that I'm putting into it and it is work, You know, I'm trying to live the best life that I can, being the, the most helpful that I can.

17:48 And I mean, the universe kind of repays it. It's really nice. Yeah. Wow, that's super cool. Yeah, No, I grew up with a dad who he got a Lenski maybe in business, a dental business, 13 dental specials use the house. He doesn't know what's going on in pop culture or, you know, foreign affairs less if he doesn't know. I saw that he can create houses and stair cases and decks and teeth and it showed me oh, you know what? Hey, like I have some of this genetics at least 50% or at least, you know, 49% or whatever. Maybe I can do these things too. And it's it's really cool that you do that for your kids. And this is, you know, I have many more questions, but we're at the end of the interview. So if you you could give our viewers listeners use fly by really fast, I would actually want to delve into every question a lot more, but the short format, maybe another day. So give us your final thoughts and where we can find you the. Only thing I'd love to tell to your audience is life is an adventure.

18:42 Don't be an NPC which is a non playable character. Be the hero of your own adventure. Go out there and enjoy the quest. That's what I would say. You can find me at places like Gamify business.com, which is where I teach creatives how to be successful in a game format. We make life into a game as a role-playing game. Or you can find me a Santa for nerds over Paul paperdesigns.com. I also have a book that just came out. It's on Amazon. It's called Quit Selling your butt. I'm sorry, that's not radio friendly, but it is. But what it is is it is quit selling like creative people first product selling first is going to kill your creative business. You've got to sell the person behind it. And that's really what this is about. It's about becoming the person who you are because you're more important than anything you make and try and sell.

19:25 So try and be the person. So quit selling your stuff and, you know, sell yourself instead. I love, I like, I love to be the hero of your own story. I have so much going on this week. And what I do usually involves creating something that's not there. I mean, it's very seldom. I'm just working in an office or doing routine things. It's like a movie. I have to create a character. I have to create how she poses and moves and get to a new location and figure it out. And a lot of it for me causes stress. I don't, I don't want to, you know, miss cold times, whatever. But I love that it's a great reminder to be the hero of your own story. Cause who can save you but yourself really at the end of the day. I mean, maybe your kids, maybe your kids will come in and they'll save you. If you know if you ever need help whenever you have a stomach ache, maybe they'll bring you a modem or something. I think they'll, they'll, they'll revenge my, my passing, but they, I don't think they'll be there. Right now, no, no, yeah, yeah, no. I I'd love to see what your kids create with your genetics that that'd be really cool.

20:20 So stay tuned. For 20 years from now, we're going to follow love with Paul Tape's children to see what they created with all the knowledge and wisdom that he's instilled in them. And on that note, we're at the end of the interview. Thank you very much. Check out this guy who creates so many cool things that visually are obviously not seen in this interview. So check it out. You like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, if you like Ted talks, if you like creating things that are just wildly imaginative, check this guy out. Pulpit over and Outback to Mark Torres in the studio for more. It came from the radio. Hey everybody, this is Todd McFarlane of the record setting Spawn comic series. And if you're looking for any kind of cool conversation about creators, about entertainment, about all that good stuff, you go to It came from the radio. You're listening to the.

21:09 Now back to our show. You're listening to It Came From the Radio. This is Doctor Feldy. Jennifer Lee Feldman. I'm here with a very talented guy, David Tefko, and he's a producer, director, editor, writer, magical creator. He creates things from really serious content, which is how we met. I actually acted for him in a commercial, playing my least favorite role, a mom. I don't like playing a serious mom at all. It's so boring. I don't want to say the wrong thing, and then I get scared. But we also did head shots together, and he has something really cool that he did a long time ago called finding Sandler. What we're going to talk about here he is David Seth Cullen. What's going on? Hey, Jen, thanks for having me. So I'm glad we met, I guess. I applied to be an actress in a commercial. I don't even know.

21:54 Yeah, I, I auditioned. I sense an audition and it was a commercial for an autistic autism company. My stepbrother is autistic. So I actually wrote script about my stepbrother. It was helped out by his mother, who's the mother of an autistic son who lives in my childhood bedroom. Yes, that's how we met. And you were really good. The client actually chose you out of whole bunch of people that we had auditioned. You were great. And it was a lot of fun to work with you. If I remember correctly, when we had some downtime while, you know, we were setting up, you had told me that you were in production as well, that you do hair and makeup and special effects makeup and all sorts of stuff. And I was like, maybe we could connect on some other projects and I could bring you on.

22:37 And you're like, yeah, that'd be awesome. And so Fast forward, we started collaborating. Right. See, my most recent memory is like when I think of you all think of you know, you're finding Sandler's cool. We'll get to that and the the ferry. We did a lot of productions with the Long Island Ferry and also the Long Island the. Lighthand. Adventureland. The Lighthouse. The Huntington Lighthouse. Yes, all these things where I'm not a morning person and I got myself somehow together in a stupor and tried not to sweat and try not to have be. All while we're running around salaries and and on boats and explanched on and climbing up lighthouses with no bathrooms and producing very professional commercial and narrative content.

23:22 So tell us a little bit about this. I forgot about this. Oh, well, that was for Discover Long Island. Yeah, that was cool. It's a part of a YouTube series that they that they have going on called You Belong. I ended up getting that gig because of finding Sandler, the documentary. My film played at the Long Beach International Film Festival in Long Beach and because I was a born and raised Long Islander, had ties to the festival through just being on in the Long Beach area for so many years and showing up at the festival. And their PR person called me and asked me to be part of their media day. I show up early. You know how I am. I show up. Early. Oh my God. So I showed up early and there was someone there that told me she was from Discover Long Island.

24:06 And we just got to talking and she's like, oh, oh, you know, what are you here for? And I explained my film and you know what? I do corporate videos and stuff like that. And she was like, oh, the next time we have some stuff, I'll reach out. And usually you get people that say that and then it never happens. Like they never reach out. But a year later they reached out. And that's how that whole thing came to play. That was really cool. I really, I learned a lot from that. I had a great experience. It was, it was fun. It was it wasn't it wasn't too difficult and well, not for me, for you. You had a lot of work to do. These are kind of intense. They're very high level production videos. Like for anyone listening, this guy, David Seth Cohen does very quality work. If you want something to look like top notch and you know, I still teach work classes for Equinox and New York sports clubs and different tiers.

24:54 Equinox is like almost at your top top. I would say David Seth Cohen commercial production is like your Equinox level. So if you want that, you hire this guy. You want something that's a little more janky and crazy, you hire me by myself. And active. Something that's wild, you know, Even my video's a little blurry right now because I don't care. I care about the content and making jokes and saying random stuff. You know, but it works for me, it's, it's a matter of the quality of the the video itself as well as the content. And that was one thing that I really liked about those videos that we collaborated on was not only did it they look awesome, but the what was said and the way we kind of portrayed it in doc style was fantastic.

25:38 And everybody that sees those videos gives me high compliments on them. I've never had like somebody say, oh, those videos suck. Everyone's like really high end videos and they've helped bring in other business. So it's a it's a great thing. I mean, you made one of my childhood dreams come true. So I'm so glad that I did this commercial for you and stretched myself to play a mom. What a difficult role for me. It's, it's the worst. You know, this is like asking someone else to fall down down the stairs. Falling down the stairs. I didn't real stunts is easy. Plug them out. It's difficult. We shot at Adventureland. So side notes, don't eat 2 bagels at like 1:00 in the morning and then try to shoot at 6:00 in the morning because I was dead asleep and in so much pain.

26:18 But man, we were at eventually at 6:30 in the morning before the whole park opened. I mean Adventureland and you know you. Didn't know this stuff Jen, but like they were giving us about an hour and a half Max for set up and interviews the two people in that room because we had to be out of there before they opened because that's when the flood would come in of people. Well, that I knew. It was a, it was like time pressure, but you know, we pulled it off and everybody was happy, so that was great. When we weren't together, that makes your dream come true. Oh, yeah. It was definitely one of my dreams. It was so cool. And one of the things we did was, you know, everyone gets into the park. They basically open the floodgates and all these kids are running in and their smiles, you know, they didn't have to act at all.

27:00 They were just so excited to be there. They're just like I was because I used to go maybe even once a week as a kid. The haunted house is still there and these kids were so excited and we got to open the doors and capture that. And you made the video, by the way, Jen. Oh yeah, I mean it. I forgot. You know, your commercial production is great. We know that. Now. You also have Finding Sandler, which is really up my alley because the whole reason I got into anything video production, believe it or not, was teaching workout classes, which I fell into by accident, and comedy. My parents are the funniest people I still know to the day. You know, they're everything they do, even dentistry. My dad's telling jokes, you know, with his hands in people's mouths. You know, he has an audience. Yeah. My mom's. My mom's one of my favorite people to write comedy with.

27:42 It's all about comedy. Comedy. So you have something called Finding Sandler. I've watched the trailer, I'd say, at least six times since we got acquainted. So just tell us what the heck is Finding Sandler? In 1998, when I graduated college, I worked on the movie Big Daddy and the night of the premiere for the Waterboy, Adam Sandler wanted to wear clothing from the set and I happened to work for the costume designer, which is pretty funny because I'm color blind. So she asked me to deliver these clothes to Sandler's apartment. There was a a woman named Autumn who was another PA in my department. I had to drive her home and then I had to bring the car back to the office and just go home for the night. So I went to Sandler's building. It was in the middle of Manhattan and I double parked and I told Autumn I'll be right back because I was instructed just to give the clothes to the doorman and then be on my way.

28:28 I go into the building, I give the doorman the clothes and he gives him back to me and he goes just bring him up to Adam. So I go up to his floor. He's on like the 40 something floor of the building, super high building. I get to the floor, I walk down the hall. I knock on the door and from behind the door I hear who is it? What do you want? He started yelling at me like he yells in his movies. And I was like, oh, it's Dave, I'm just APA here to deliver your clothes for the premiere. And he opened his door and he had this big smile on his face and he goes, hey, man, you want to come in and hang out and have a drink? And I froze, thought going through my head. It was like an Angel devil kind of thing. Like the angel's like you got autumn in the car. You can't stay. And the devil's like, dude, stay. He's like your hero. You got to stay and hang out. And and I ended up following the Angel path and told him, look, I, I can, I got autumn in the car. I got to get going and I gave him the clothes and I and I left and I never had the chance to hang out with again. Fast forward to 2006, I turned 30. I'm living in my grandmother's basement apartment. I'm living with a girlfriend of mine at the time and two dogs, my two dogs.

29:28 And I'm a producer at a Catholic TV station and I'm Jewish. Not really where I thought I'd be in my life at age 30. And then? I. Would have these nights where I would toss and turn in bed thinking like, ah, what if I stayed and hung out with Adam Sandler? Would he have given me some advice? Would something he said potentially have changed my projectory? And I had a dream one night. And in my dream, I went to California looking for him. I somehow found him in in this dream. And we started walking and talking. And then I abruptly woke up. And when I woke up, I was like, this has to be a sign, you know, whatever. And I had a small production company at the time while I was at the TV station, called my business partner and I told him, I'm like, hey, Dan, I had this dream and I want to try and find Adam Sandler and have the drink I passed up in 1998. And he goes, hey, 6:00 AM.

30:17 Can we talk about this? And I went in like I, I went into the TV station, I told a couple people like, hey, I had this dream. I want to make this movie called Finding Sandler. And a bunch of people offered to help me. And then we just started making it. That was it. That's how it that's how it happened. You still haven't had that drink with Sandler, right? I mean, I know that, but no, right? I have not had the drink with Adam Sandler yet. Any plans like it's 2026 now? I know it's 20 years later and I have not released the film yet either. I've been kind of holding off to like, say maybe he'll come around or maybe somebody that I know that knows him will facilitate this thing. I've actually made the decision in my mind that if it doesn't happen this year, I'm releasing the film. I'm not.

31:01 The question is where and how and all that. But yeah, this year 26. Let's say, let's say you know what, I could play God. Or let's say someone could make things happen. What's your ideal outcome? Do you want to just release the movie or you want to meet him this year? Like what? What are we doing? Have the drink, then release the film, all right? Everybody listening, put David Seth Cohen in touch with Adam Sandler and have this drink and it and it, you know, does it have to be alcohol? It could be kombucha, could be water. Green juice could be water. I'm all about water. I barely drink any alcohol anyway, so I'm all for water. Truth be told, even if he'd rather have a joint or something, I'm in for that too. Whatever it is, I'm in. That's what I'm talking about. My bad.

31:42 You know, I love the green. This is the Green Day over here. All right, so now you have a future project, which we'll see if I'm a good enough actress to make the cut. You know, I might be starring in this. We'll find out tomorrow. Tell us a little bit about what's coming up in the future than the things you're working on. But what you're talking about is a potential short film that I'm going to do for fun. I haven't, I haven't done like a narrative film project in a while. And I've been having this itch and I met this writer and he wrote this script and I really like it. And we're just trying to finalize, you know, how it ends at this point. And I'm going to share that with you either later today or tomorrow at the latest, that short film. And then I've got a couple other projects that are in development, animated action comedy series for adults called Code of the Samurai. Think like Deadpool meets a Samurai kind of deal. So it's a really great project.

32:33 I didn't write it. It was written by my partner on the project. I think it's got a lot of potential. So I'm looking to get that off the ground this year. And then I'm also in talks to potentially do biopic with about a famous golfer. I don't want to say who it is yet. I'm working on getting the life rights together. And once I have that, I can talk a little more about that. And then I'm also collaborating on another like a romantic comedy script with somebody. I have a couple other projects that are kind of on the shelf right now that I'm looking to start pushing again. So this year is going to be a little more of a push for the film and television project than I've done over the last few years, which have mainly focused based on, you know, corporate videos, commercials, event event video and photography and also corporate photography, so.

33:22 Yeah, I'm glad to hear that because I'm obsessed with comedy. I think you have a great eye for it. And you, you understand and appreciate that quirky, comedic way of being. But you also like me. I can be very serious and I can come off even uptight. And some people have even sensed me. They didn't even know I had a sense of humor because I can, you know, dull that out and be just like a freaking computer. And that's how you kind of have to be when you're doing commercial work. It's it's, it can be a little soul sucking, but. We have fun. We have fun on our sets. Though we have fun, but I mean, the craziness that goes on and a comedy are horror. I mean, I'm throwing stuff across the room. I'm breaking stuff. It's it's wild. You know, it gets really crazy and dirty and appropriate for the radio.

34:04 And you can't really do that on a commercial set for a client. You don't do that. And I will say David is also very observant because before we started, I was hoping he. Would double glass. Yeah, he, he, he notices little, little nuanced things right away. And he's like, he got double glass. And I was like, oh, he called it out before we even hit record. Yeah. What's in your hand? Is that like a bracelet of sorts? What is that? Oh yes, I don't know. Someone gave me this bracelet and I don't know whatever has nothing to do with anything but you. Also, do you have anything about like tennis? Can we talk about? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the ball boy, the tennis comedy. Yeah. Did you read that script yet? I sent it to you. I. Read a few pages and I recommend you an actor that I thought would be great but I don't. I don't want to leak too much stuff, but from what I read, I was like, dude, this guy knows comedy, he's got to make this. I loved what I read and I got to finish reading it. We had, we had raised two and a half, $1,000,000 for that script back in 2019 right before the pandemic. The problem was that we had six months to match the money and we weren't able to match it in the six months time that the investor gave us.

35:05 And we weren't allowed to use any of the money to lock anything in either. It had to sit in the account until we matched the money. So it was kind of like it was great to have the funds in the account, but without being able to use them, we weren't really able to take it to the next level. And it got a little tough. And I I was going through a little life change at that point. I had gotten out of a long relationship and sold my house and moved into Manhattan. So it was a different world for me back then than it is today. And so we'll see. Yeah. I'd love to get that project back off the ground. If if it's a really funny tennis comedy, the ball boy. You said it's a little like Caddyshack, is that OK? I said. That it was called by a company that read it, National Lampoon. They called it like a Caddyshack of tennis kind of thing when they originally read it.

35:54 It is. It's that kind of comedy. I love it, yeah. Everything and everything to me, I played tennis since I was 6. My dad plays like 3 to 5 hours of tennis, you know, every day on the weekends. He's tennis obsessed. I used to be tennis obsessed, Caddyshack obsessed. I even used to see my life in terms of Caddyshack. I worked at a rehab center and I had a boss. I was like Lacy and Chevy Chase and the rebellious like this boss was always pissed off at me and he's like wear khakis. And I even, I even did physical therapy with a guy who acted like the judge. You know, there are these uptight people, you know, So, yeah. Maybe. Maybe Doctor Feldy wants to help finance it. Yeah, I I will do whatever I can.

36:36 If I believe in a project, I get a little fanatical about it, which I think is. It's a fun problem. It would be a lot of fun to shoot that. I mean, there's a lot of like, ridiculousness in there. I love it. And, and there's like some, you know, sexiness, you know, the guy's like, you know, attractive and you have sports and you have playfulness and jokes and sometimes things can just be ugly and gross and funny. But I feel like you could but also get some type of beauty and sexiness in there with the characters, which I like. Yeah, it's got a little bit of everything in it. Got hearts, got comedy, slapsticky and not slapsticky and it's it's a fun project. Maybe too many jokes about Dick, but we'll see. We'll.

37:17 See, I'll read the the. Main character's name is Randy Balzak, so. That's great. On that note, we are overtime as usual. Sorry, Mark Torres, I've probably like 5 minutes overtime here. Just give us your final thought real quick and tell us where we can find you. Websites. Social media. My websites David Seth cohen.com If anybody has any projects, corporate work or films, they need a director, producer, editor, whatever they can reach out. There's a contact form on my site. My Instagrams David Seth Cohen, my Facebook's David Seth Cohen my Twitters David Seth Cohen One. Although I don't go on it much, I think TikTok is also as real David Seth Cohen. We're done with the interview. Sign down back to the studio with it came from the radio.

38:00 Now back to our show. You are listening to It Came from the Radio. I'm with Gregory Chaffee. He's a professional actor, poet, novelist, director, professor, and I worked with him recently. I, I, I was a makeup artist, but we're for our first right away. We're going to go right into it, right into the meat. He did a short film, produced the short film and direction. I did indeed and wrote it. I Co wrote the the screenplay absolutely. And what's it called? It's called Beyond the Silent Night. It's a 9/11 tribute. So tell us about that. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much. And also quick shout out. Fantastic makeup artist here. The work we just did together I'm very excited about. Beyond the Silent Night is a tribute to the remembrance of 911.

38:44 It's a short film that just entered the festival circuit, so the idea is later this year, in time for the 25th anniversary, we'll have a film about that topic ready to go. I came about because I teach at night at Nassau Community College, and I have an adult student who was really an FBI agent, and he wrote this short story and I read it and I said, this is brilliant. If you ever wanted to make it into a film, let's do it. And eventually he's like, now is the time because the anniversary is coming up. So we made this film, and it's really interesting as a short film, but it's about a FBI agent on the verge of retirement, and he has to journey through a bewitched New York City to give something to someone, but we don't know what it is or who it is. So it has like some Christmas Carol vibes and it takes place on Christmas Eve.

39:31 I'm working on a lot of Christmas themes movies right now actually with Glenn, like Brad Junior is one of your actors. We have pull outs Christmas themed deep, which we're going to shoot the rest of deep here because shooting at motels socks. So I said no, we're just shooting here. I'm I'm done. We're not. We're not going to another without silver set designing this. So I'll be with Glenn. Yeah, so Christmas seems to be the motif of your life. So, OK, so a little bit more about this 9/11 tribute. Now you're the guy was an FBI agent. Does he have any real stories from being an FBI agent in this film? So when 911 happened 25 years ago, he was a new FBI agent and that was actually like one of his first cases. And his short story actually takes place on the Christmas Eve after 911.

40:12 But now that that's kind of 25 years is considered a period piece. We can't really create New York City on an independent budget like that looks like 25 years ago, like the cars and the buildings are different and everything. And so we decided to update the film and actually make it take place right now instead. So it's kind of full circle for Robert Duffy, who's the the original writer, because now the film is about an agent at the very end of his career instead of the very beginning of a career. Very interesting. So it's totally switching gears now. So rap music's kind of like poetry? Sure, I got a lot of raps, like a freestyle. So what makes a bunch of writing a poem rather than like a short story or a haiku or a diss track? There is no formal definition of poet.

40:54 Poetry certainly does not have to rhyme. It does not have to follow a very specific aesthetic. You know, the old adage is like, if it kind of looks like a poem, it's probably a poem. But now we have something called prose poetry, which looks like a short story and almost reads like a short story, and people have all different feelings about it. The point is that anything can technically be a poem. We all have our preferences of what poem, what poems are. If you put it to music, right, is it still a poem or is it now music? Is music the same as poetry? Something can be poetic and not be poetry. And so, yeah, everyone's has their own definition. But I will say you'd like this. A lot of modern poetry, I go to the city a lot for poetry, and a lot of it is definitely inspired by sort of 90s hip hop.

41:36 Yeah, absolutely. So do you perform your poetry at open mic? Yeah, all the time here on Long Island. There are some great ones. I actually run one. It's called Beats by the Beach. It takes place every 3rd Friday. Follow us on Instagram. And I run it along with Paula Kersey and Peter Dugan, who are both former poet laureates. So they're like the real and you go up on the mic and it's an open mic so anyone can come and perform a poem or two. What if the poem is more of like a rat? What's also cool is I actually have made these poetry films. It's called Poetry in Motion and the second one's about to come out in April. And basically what we did, we took 12 poets and poems and we shot poetry videos in the style of old school music videos.

42:18 But it's not music, it's poetry. And so it's more performative. It hits a little harder than what some people might expect from poetry. And so it's really interesting poetry motion. We threw up all of last year's on YouTube, so if you just search it, you can get all 12 videos. And we're gonna premiere the next one in April at the Oceanside Library for a poetry month. So it's gonna be dope. You know, for me, I don't know what it is. Maybe I was supposed to be born as a man Actually psychic told me that I was a black pimp in my last life. Anything that feels a little bit girly or not like super masked. And I just aside from makeup, I'm into some girly things, like makeup's pretty girly poetry. I always felt like, ah, that's for girls, like yoga. People like, oh, you're yoga, you do yoga. I'm like, Nah, that's for girls.

43:01 What would you say to a man who's like, Nah, man, not poetry is not masculine. Like, is it masculine? Can we make poetry? Masculine. Once you go to a few open mics and you realize what it can be, you're like, oh, this is not what my preconceived notion thought it was like, you know, in high school or something. In school, you think, oh, poetry's like love, love stuff, flowers and butterflies. And then and then, you know, you get on the scene and it could be about anything. It could be quite hard hitting. It could be about politics or history or the world or rock music or like it could a poem can literally be about anything. And people really think outside the box is also just funny, hilarious poetry. And you can go there and just laugh hysterically at these at these poems and not what you tend to think of, but a poem can be anything. And to be honest, in many open mics there is just as much men, if not more men than women on the mic. Your book?

43:53 Now you have another one. Or is it summer in heat or? Something so summer heat Poems of passion. Very erotic. It is. They are passion poems, however you want to sort of characterize them, which isn't necessarily my Forte, but I had enough where I put together a collection expired, let us say. Various lovers helped compile the book inspirationally, which I am ever grateful for in all the ways. Oh, it's great to have loved and now your current book, which just came out. Poetic Anarchy is my first full volume collection of poetry. Everything I've ever written is in there. All the poems from all the chat books are in there, so it's everything. It's also why I call it anarchy 'cause there's no rhyme or reason or theme. It's everything mashed together.

44:36 It feels like the closing of 1 chapter. Like anything I write after it, it's a brand new start for me as a poet. Beautiful artwork by a local Huntington artist, Diego Garcia. It's a great if you like poetry, you're interested in it and you're not sure what poetry can be. This has everything in there from the love poems to the hard hitting poems to maybe a poem that you're like, you know, this could be like a rock song or hip hop song. Yeah. Maybe you'll make a music video about some of. Them I actually am planning project where we are putting some music to my poetry. OK, Music. Yeah, that hasn't been quite announced, but you can be on the lookout for it. Yeah, I think that's where I mean, you know, books are still around, people are still reading books. I heard there's making a comeback. Love that, you know, but there's audio books are very popular and and video like we're in the, I think the age of video, right? Take any of your work and make a video. That's probably a good idea.

45:30 Yes, like shorts, you know hard hitting vertical videos, you know like the the influence of social media and the yeah you have to play the game anyway, whatever. However, you can best get out your work right. Do all the things. So now you have to work with a bunch of different actors, which have all different types of personalities. Sure. We worked at the film. I I just did makeup. Did I? Yeah, I just did makeup, little effects makeup for a film called A Mother's Voice. You directed, You did not write it, but you definitely directed and produced it with your partner, Emily de Nova. Yes. So Emily. Yeah, she's great. Emily and I are creative partners. We run G&E production.

46:10 Yeah, it launched into 2018 and we try to make a film per year. And a mother's voice is very different for us. It's a legal courtroom drama. I've never done that. We've never done that. It was my first time directing something that I starred in, so that was also wildly different. And I'm not sure something I want to do again. I kind of like like one or the other. I've I've directed things that I've had smaller roles or supporting roles, but it is tough. But it's independent film and you know, your crew is limited in scope and all of a sudden when you can't be the director, can't see what's on the monitor because you're in it. You know, you have to rely on other people. Luckily, I mean, we had great artists. Matt Simskins, it's phenomenal director of photography and Emily was the assistant director, but she was also in it obviously, as we were both it. So it was a wild drive, but that's a great one. That's another story of a former adult student of mine who is a lawyer, wrote that for my class.

47:05 So I I did watch it evolve with my input like, but he is the true sole writer of it, John Dito. And I happily directed that one as well. And also had a great, great role as sort of an ambitious young lawyer trying to go up against the system. It's all about, I guess, infant deaths. Like infants? Yeah, I was inspired by the Grieving Families Act, which is, is is not a law that is, that is passed here in New York State. But it kind of questions the idea of how much grief and suffering do we award, you know, the parents who has, who have lost a loved one? Yes. What is the value of a life?

47:45 Yes. That success would say you're so inappropriate. How much is your dead child worth? Not verbatim, but that is basically a line in the film that someone who's posing the idea of the bill says, played by Glenn. Actually, that's that's his role. Opposing. Kind of like the bad guy. He's not the bad guy, but he kind of needs to play both sides of it for political purposes because that is his function, his job in the film. That's his role. So he he kind of gets to play both. We're really excited about it. Came out really well. It's still editing room right now. We had some ambitious takes. We had a whole courtroom scene that was a winner. A1 take no cuts. And so we did the whole thing. It's like almost 3 pages long, which for a short film, you know, it's it's intense and you don't you don't see that very often in legal dramas, right?

48:33 Normally like it's locked off because it's very intense. But like we wanted to pick up the whirlwind of what it's like to actually be in a courtroom because John took me to a real courtroom to prepare for the film. And I watched a medical malpractice case. And the one thing that I did not realize is how intense and intimidating it is in real life. Like I was just sitting there there watching and I'm like, oh, like this is a performance. Yeah, yeah. And so that's, and it started clicking both as a as an actor playing a lawyer and as the director of how I wanted everything to feel and look. So it's there's some exciting shots in there. Lawyers that'd be really sharp and I think if everything that can happen and they I think ahead and I'm so flattered that two people two years ago was one year asked me if I was a lawyer or attorney. Like thank you so much.

49:19 Thank you so much. So I feel similar when we were filming right after we were done her on break on on lunch break, a few of the crew members asked me if I was a lawyer in real life. And I jokingly told them the truth that I literally had had no idea what any of these words meant when I first got the script. Like I had to learn what all of these terms and this legalese even meant like. And luckily I had, you know, John who wrote the thing, who is a lawyer and he like really meticulously went down the line with me what everything means it's. Harder to learn those lines at a regular script. It's like a different language. Exactly. It's literally like a different language. And he was, he was telling me he he asked me to even rehearse with him.

49:59 And it's like, Glen, you got to find someone who's less busy than me or fully packed schedule. So find some freaking loser like I'm too busy. But anyway, no, no. Well, yeah, actually, yes, yeah. Find someone who has free time. And they don't have to be a loser to have free time. You can be a very great person to have free time. So no shades people have free time. I was very busy that weekend. I'm sorry I didn't help you hurt. When you have these legal terms, it's a different language. Yeah, it's tougher for any actor. Yeah, how? Skilled, you are right. Yes, it was definitely a challenge, but that note from those crew members really made me feel feel warm and fuzzy inside about the performance. And you know what, just to let you know, even though I am a makeup artist, I work in production. I've actually did this at a law commercial. Like I said, the Law Group and I said I want to just use the teleprompter.

50:42 I have teleprompter apps on my phones. I've sure teleprompter app. I saved the freaking day because this lawyer would have taken like 3 hours. Yeah, can't do that. For a lawyer to say all these terms on camera, it's difficult. For an actor who doesn't know the legal terms. Yeah, this is legal. Terms on camera are kind of difficult. Absolutely. And the formative aspect on top of it, whether you're a lawyer or not, when you have that language and you have to perform in some way like the commercial, it's doubly challenging. Yeah, I was trying to make everyone feel better. Yeah, everyone's having a little bit different difficult times, so it's definitely a. I do feel like that's the skill of yours. Try to make people feel. Yeah, yes, yeah. Well, I usually make some people nervous.

51:23 I've been told that or they're a little scared. I've been asked someone standing right there if I am a vampire and if I And then he said if if anyone was going to eat people, it would be you, yeah. I do scare, I see the scared thing too, but also simultaneously, well, a calming vampire if you will. Killed anyone? Yeah. I did steal a lip gloss from CVS once when I was much younger. Nice. But yeah, sometimes, you know, like to kind of play God. And I like to. If I have the power to make something easier and better and calmer, I will. Sure. But if I think you're horrible, I think I'll just leave you alone and I'll let you just just suffer, you know? Sure is where I'm at now. I can't I can't come in to save everybody. Anyway, back to you. So now I I have to talk about Emily de Nova before we close out.

52:08 Emily was phenomenal. She just really stood out. You know, I've been lucky to work with a lot of great people this year and she definitely stood out. She was like so organized. She kept people on time. You know, she had to yell at people. She wasn't afraid to yell people. She actually loves yelling at people. What's your favorite thing? Yeah. As makeup artist was like, tell me 30 seconds for it, you know, give me a countdown, you know, and she also is into martial arts and I used to teach workout classes. So for me, I look at filming as an athletic event or, or an act of going to war. So you might have seen me coming in and it might have been like this girl's going to war. She's carrying all the stuff, she's wearing fitness clothes because I you have to be ready for anything to run across a field or or have different wardrobe options because we might be outside in the. Hole.

52:54 Or we might be somewhere hot. So. So what are the great things about working with Emily? Because she's just so on top. Yeah, she's the best. Fit and she's smart. And yeah, yeah. And if you are running 30 seconds behind, she would just karate chop you from the the martial arts. So she, you know, she really has it all. I mean, the fact that she was able to just pop in as that character, she is the mother's voice, right? She plays the mother in the film who loses her child. That's the first scene in the movie. So it's not a spoiler. She is phenomenal. And then to just pop out and switch out and start directing. But this is what we do. When we created Genie Productions, we said we are Renaissance artists. Yeah. We do it all. We write, we act, we direct, we produce the whole kit and kaboodle. Yeah.

53:37 It's been a, it's been a wonderful journey. We met both, got cast in Tony and Tina's wedding, and then we played Tony and Tina for like, I don't know, almost a decade or something. Yeah, I mean, we still do it. We still do it separately. She'll go on tour and like, I'll go on tour, other things like that. Married couple kind of chemistry. Sure, you know, you're not married, but you know, you can have the difficult conversations on set to get it done, which is what you need to do a film set. You need to be able to be redirect with someone and with someone. Sure. And you guys have all that together. So you're a great, you know, duo. Thank you. It was just really cool that you guys work together. Yes, absolutely. It's it's always, it's always a blast and we always try to work together. Yeah, I I totally get that. I'd want her on every set.

54:20 And someone, I think it was Tara Westwood saw her and she was like Tara W was one of the actresses that was in your film. She was phenomenal also. And she liked the way I did her hair. So I I listen on my makeup before hair. So I don't know how good this is. She's like, it's great. But anyway, you know, plug, plug. She she saw Emily working. She said, I need you on every set. Like, wow, this is great. So anyway, enough on Emily. We are actually at the very end of the interview. So you have about two minutes to give us your thought of the day. Anything that's weighing heavily or lightly or anything you think we should know. And then also where to find you, your websites, your socials, anything coming up? Firstly, I would just say be on the lookout for our upcoming works Beyond the Silent Night.

55:06 Hopefully it'll get into a bunch of New York spaces, so just keep an eye out for that one. And A Mother's Voice will also be on the verge of of of a premiere later this year. If you if you're into poetry like we discussed again, check us out at Beats by the Beach every 3rd Friday in Long Beach, NY. It's an open mic. It's a lot of fun. Kind of. I always encourage people to expand, you know, their comfort zones and what they think is, is art. And I think art is honestly is the thing that keeps me going. It keeps me most fulfilled in life. And so if you have a creative outlet, whether you're a professional artist or not, I think it's a wonderful thing.

55:50 Yeah. Yeah. Well, question. Yeah. You. Can answer in 30 seconds for a minute. Work life balance. Do you think it's important? Do you want to have it? What? What do you think? I mean, having a work life balance can get in the way of being successful because you're putting your time into things that don't have to do with your work. So. So what are your thoughts on that? Yeah, Final, final, final. Thought it's a tough one but essentially I feel like my work is my life yeah everything I do is not just like a job that I go home. It is part of a lifestyle, whether it is being a professor at Long Island University, like whether it is being a writer or an actor or director, it encompasses my life. It envelopes my life. And that's kind of how I like it, how I, I want it. I think I have tunnel vision and successful people I feel like often have tunnel vision is what I've observed.

56:35 So when you want to go and do a thing, you have to put, I don't want to like half, you know, anything, you know, like I really want to go for it. So it is. But it's a wonderful life to have. It's a different life. It's a different lifestyle. Many won't understand you can't do the quote UN quote normal things, but you get to do other things and it's a it's a beautiful life. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah, where can we find you? Instagram. Website, Yes. Instagram Genie Productions. Gregory Chaffee. We have a website, genieproductions.com. I'm on Facebook. Feel free. You know the deal. Thank you for being on. It came from the radio. We're going to throw it back to Mark Torres in the studio formal. You had any honor you would listen to sci-fi dot radio the sci-fi for your Wi-Fi Kapla.

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