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The following is brought to you
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The views of the shows host and
guests do not necessarily

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station.
And now it came from the radio.

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Yapa Toy and welcome once again
to It came from the radio, the

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official show, the Big Apple
Con.

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This is your host, Mark Torres
speaking with me in the studio.

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Once again we have Mr. Hassan
Godwin.

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What does yapa toy mean?
Yapa toy, Thank you the

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universal greeting.
This is hello to all my long

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time fans.
How does anybody supposed to

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know that?
What language is Yapa Toy?

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That's Mark.
That's Mark Torres, Parisian.

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Language.
It's it's it's it's Chai.

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Creation is speak.
How's that?

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How's that?
I cover everything.

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Now everybody knows.
Now it's out there in the ether.

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And also we have the Huracan
very own David Donovan.

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Hey, how y'all doing?
Hassan?

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I'm so happy to meet you.
I can't turn and look at you

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'cause I have to.
Speak.

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No, you gotta speak directly
into.

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The I'm looking at you on my
peripheral vision.

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Yes, And I can see you.
Hello.

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Hello.
Is that a little better?

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Yeah.
Is that a little?

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Bit unique, yeah.
Hassan, is that a little better?

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Right there, that's perfect.
Right there.

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Perfect.
As long as you're good with

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having your microphone handled
by another man, it's.

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Fine, this is going to be this
kind of show, guys.

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I'm not talking about the
bathroom.

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Be quiet as fun.
So on this week's show, in

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addition to talking to, with and
about David, which is awesome

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because he's here, I at C2E2
interview comic book creator Joe

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McPhee and Elman Jenny Feldy
interviews alter and musician

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Chris Kaufman.
Before we do any of that we have

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to take it away with the non
news.

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The same as the news intro.
Yeah.

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How is it the non news the same
as the news?

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How's anybody supposed to know
the difference?

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All right, nevermind.
Please continue.

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That's terrepes.
Your language.

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It's brought you in part by your
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That is sci-fi for your Wi-Fi.

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Everybody knows that.
Man.

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It'll be a long half hour.
It'll be a long half hour.

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Is it over here?
Don't look at me, pay attention

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to my.
Room as well as as well as the

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fine folks with the Big Apple
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show of celebrating 26789 years
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self.
More information go

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www.bigapplecc.com.
The next convention is scheduled

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all the way for November the
21st.

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Tickets are not.
Nothing, nothing.

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You get nothing, Nothing.
So go there, you get nothing.

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Show up now no one is is there
come back in November do.

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Not go now.
Please do not go down.

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We are not to be held
responsible.

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Actually, if you're close, go
down there and tell us what we'd

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like to know what's going on,
right?

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Taste the joint for us.
Also our Patreons, of which they

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are Danny Villa Worldwind
directed Jerry Burrell, Newsday,

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Famous Resident media Shadow
Rabbit, Art Yes and Ray the.

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Hurricon.
That's me.

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The Hurricon.
The party Brian is like, what

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the hell is going on over here?
More lively than ever seen this

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show.
This is a geek show.

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Next week, I'll be back.
Next week, folks calling.

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WWW.
It's worth a dollar a month.

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Come on, you can hear your name
on the radio every month.

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It's a dollar, please.
It's if we switch it around,

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hurricane goes last though,
'cause I like, I like when you

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kind of, you know, oh.
OK.

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You totally threw him off track.
That's true.

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A dollar a month gets you a
shout out on the show.

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Come on.
That's not that hard.

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Come on, really a dollar?
It's like 25.

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Cents, even in this economy.
Yeah, you could.

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Throw a dollar four shows a
month.

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Give him a break.
Come on, that's got to say your

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stupid name. 4 * a month, I'm
sorry.

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Also, honey, he came from the
way website.

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It's like book designated a book
about two warning alien races

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sliding over in your discover
power source, the waterfinder

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way to planet earth, and as a
result some humans and

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abilities.
Issue 1 is on sale right now and

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issue 2 is in the printer and it
should be ready.

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For cover isn't done, the cover
isn't.

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Done.
We are done.

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So I listen to the show.
Yeah.

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Hey, look at me.
It's actually at the printer

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right now.
I should be getting the books.

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This I saw some residuals of it
and it's actually.

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Great.
Yeah, yeah.

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And he's actually happy with it.
That's.

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Who did the cover?
You never say who did the.

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Cover it's it's a photo cover
and artistic cover.

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So we have our Co host Elle Man
Jenny Feldy is the model for the

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cover.
I think I saw.

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That and we have Brian Kong and
our graphic designer Abby Gabato

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did a collaboration for the
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Very cool.
Very.

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Cool, I should have the book if
everything works out well.

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Fingers crossed at the M Kong,
which is on next week on the

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25th and 26th.
I have issue 2 there.

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And also at the mid on
collectibles on Free Comic Book

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day.
We're going to be having a book

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signing where Jen will be
autographing and personalizing

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issue 2 for anybody who's
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So if you want, just stay tuned
to our show.

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Very cool Mama.
I think we're ready.

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I.
Think so.

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I turned it down and I wanted to
get his brilliant.

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By the way, you do all that
stuff for that.

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All that stuff is like in your
head. 90.

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Percent. 90% is his.
Memory.

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Yes, and.
I always try to trip him up and

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I.
Never, never.

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You did good job today.
Hi.

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So we're ready for our break.
We'll be.

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This is Metamark with Mr. Hassan

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Godwin and the Huracan very own
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Thank you so much, Mark.
Who eats a piece of pizza in one

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hour?
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Slice of Vita, extra slow devour
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So anyway, talking about
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out to Charlie.
I missed seeing Charlie

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Saladino, right?
To Mr. Charlie, that's amazing.

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The corresponding Charlie
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Charlie, Hope you're doing
better.

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Charlie.
All right.

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We were talking about him before
during the break, so no one

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knows we were talking about
Charlie.

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Charlie's ears are burning.
Is that what we're?

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Talking about.
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a great relationship with Mr.
David Donovan.

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I.
Hope so.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait.
This this weekend, I was up in

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the Kingston at the Kingston
Independent Comic Con trying to

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rustle up some business.
And all my kids talked about

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Mark is Mark Torres coming
because he takes all those

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pictures, but he only takes
pictures of raffle winners and a

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song.
Says he has something to do.

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He doesn't like losers.
So if you come to the hurricane,

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you lose, get out.
Mark wants nothing to do with

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you.
Go near him.

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Alright, he has win.
Did you win the raffle?

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Did you win?
You go away.

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I have Negan's bat that I wanted
the raffle go away.

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I'm holding it.
So since you mentioned the

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raffle, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
start off right there.

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The Hurricane is a small little
convention, but it has the best

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raffle for any convention I've
ever been to or seen.

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It blows my mind how much great
stuff you have.

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I work all year on it.
I have a lot of good friends

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too.
I have three really good pieces

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of original art that are going
up that are amazing.

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We got a lot of got some signed
books.

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We have big oversized books that
we got, but we I pretty much

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collect all year for this event
and it's a lot.

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It's a lot of fun for me.
I get a big kick out of it.

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I really.
Do and the raffle is only $5 a

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ticket which is mind blowing
that you can come in potentially

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and throw down 5 dollars $5.00
an entry right and the. $10 and

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when he gets back.
And when something

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extraordinary, there's
omnibuses, there's figurines,

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there's so many great things.
Was that something that was part

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of the plan when you decided to
make the hurricane?

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The hurricane is is a
fundraiser.

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All the money goes back to the
church.

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So you have to say, OK, what can
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Where you charge for the tables?
Right now?

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We charge for the tables like
the vendors pay, but sometimes

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the artists don't cuz, you know,
they don't make much.

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It's like, fine, whatever.
It's $5 to get in, right?

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So it's $5 for an adult.
But when a kid comes in in a

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costume, he gets in for nothing.
That's the way a comic book

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convention should be run in my
book.

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Oh my guys, look, guys, coming
down with three kids, let him

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pay.
Let the kids in for nothing.

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OK, Come on.
We give away free comics to

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everybody.
There's a table in front which

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is free comics that can take as
many as they want.

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And the more they take, the less
I have to put.

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So that's perfect.
So we got that.

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We got the tables.
We sell food.

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We don't make a lot of money on
the food, but that's the key

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people there.
We have The Walking Taco, which

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is fantastic.
We have a lady named Linda who's

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worked with me since day one in
2018 running the kitchen.

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She's fantastic.
My wife Linda also works in the

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kitchen.
So the two Lindas, and there's

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also Dolores in the kitchen,
they take care of all that.

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Do you get confused with the two
Lindas?

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I do not.
They're very different.

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Linda's in charge, Linda, Linda,
Linda, Linda, number one's in

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charge.
And actually, Linda, my wife

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Linda, came up with the idea,
yeah, for the hurricane.

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Because what happened was we had
to raise money in the church to

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fix the floor that was damaged
or in Sandy, because Bethany

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Congregational Church of East
Rockaway was the relief center.

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Everybody came there after
Sandy.

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They tracked in oil.
They tracked in dirt.

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They tracked in sewage from the
sewage plant that overflowed the

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floor was a disaster.
We had to fix the floor.

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And they said, what can we do?
I said, I don't know.

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Well, I approached a couple of
people who do concerto on on in

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Long Island who remain nameless
and we said, do you want to use

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this space?
No, we can't make any money.

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Why not?
Too small.

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OK, fine.
I go home to my wife and I said,

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why not doing it?
She goes, why?

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I said they said they can't make
any money in this space.

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She goes, well, why don't you do
it?

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I'm like, why would I want to
run a comic book convention?

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And Linda looked at me and said,
I don't know why would you want

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to run comic book convention?
So it's been going on since

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2018.
And the raffle part was a big

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from the beginning.
I don't know how I got the idea

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to do it, but it grew and grew
and grew.

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And it's just, you know, people
send stuff.

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I, I contact people online about
it.

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All the shops in the area mostly
give me things for it.

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So that's just wonderful.
We, we have a good relationship

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with cosmic comics of, of
Baldwin.

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They give us a lot of the comics
Escape pod comics.

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My pound monocum always gives
you some stuff.

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So everybody kind of, you know,
I contact everybody for

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donations, they don't give
anything.

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It doesn't matter.
But that's probably the biggest

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part of the fundraiser is the
raffle.

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And like, I never looked at it
that way.

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It's just 5 bucks.
You can win something pretty

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cool.
That's actually a pretty good

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deal, I think.
And it's $5 each.

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And then I believe it's like 5
for 20 bucks everybody throws

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out of 20.
That's fantastic.

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Works out really, really well.
We make, we make some money for

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the church.
The church has been there since

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1885.
So everything breaks.

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Church is an open and affirming
congregation.

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Everybody is allowed and there's
no secret handshakes, no past.

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If you want to shake my hand and
tell me a secret, that's OK, but

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that's got nothing to do with
it.

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Not.
Require anything.

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It's a completely different.
Exchange, by the way, that's a

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different, yeah.
That's a.

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Totally different situation.
That's a, that's a side

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business.
That's true.

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Shake my hand, tell me a secret.
It's a beautiful thing.

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It's a beautiful thing.
And like.

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I said I could see him on the
corner.

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Yeah.
Shake my hand, tell me a secret,

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and then come by.
Behind Yeah, that's a.

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Then you may have a free
comment.

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And we've been doing it since
2018 and I was only doing it

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once a year.
And then about three years into

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it, they said to me, David, the
furnace broke.

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I'm like, wow, what are you
going to do?

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They said, well you think you
should do another show?

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I'm like do another show. 1's
enough.

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They said, no, do another show.
Guess what you could call it.

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I said, I don't know what can
you call it?

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You can call it furnace con.
So one year we didn't do a

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Huracan, we did a furnace con.
And that money went toward.

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The furnace.
So when the toilet breaks,

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you're going to have a toilet.
Con you always say that.

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Recycle jokes.
This one.

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Let's get back to the pizza.
Let's talk about favorite old

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pizza.
Pizza a son, Do you have a

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question for David?
I don't know what question could

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I possibly have.
Follow up, at least I didn't ask

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him why does he name it the
David Kahn.

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That's true, but most of them
come down to see me.

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They do come to see me.
They do come to see me.

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I can imagine I can.
I can see them doing that.

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We have a lot of fun.
We have a, we, we do hourly

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giveaways, half hourly giveaway.
We give away hard covers and

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sketches and stuff like that
every every half hour giving

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something away.
So what would you say to someone

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who who's out here because this
place is Long Island seems to be

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like there's a breeding ground
for shows, like everybody wants

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their own show.
What would your advice be?

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Since you've done it well, Yeah,
Well, well, do it well.

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Don't know.
Let me, let me tell you the let

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me tell you my philosophy of the
show when I was younger.

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And how old were you in 1975?
You're 2, right?

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I was 22.
OK, well, nights until I was 15.

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So I would go to the There was a
first Marvel convention, there

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was a first DC convention, there
was Phil Solon's convention,

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there were all these shows in
Manhattan.

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And at 15, for some reason, my
parents will let me go into

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Manhattan by myself.
And what?

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Talk into the my.
Talking at 15, my parents will

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let me go into this.
I thought it was pointing to

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something else anyway, so I I
did that.

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And what I did was you meet
people of all races and sexual

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backgrounds and what have you,
right?

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But everybody's accepted because
they like comics.

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It doesn't matter what color you
are, who you are, where you're

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from doesn't matter because you
like comics.

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You're accepted into this group.
So that was what I want to do

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with the Hurricane.
I don't care where you're from,

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who you are, what you did when
you come to this show, you're

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welcome.
We welcome you with open arms.

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You know, everybody said I have
a good time and just be nice to

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everybody.
And for the most part, we've

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never ever really had a problem.
Thank God.

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Knock Wooderson right there.
I don't think we've had a

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problem.
So it's a very welcoming

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community.
So your advice is to be nice.

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100% don't be a.
Don't be a.

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Don't be a jerk.
Don't be a.

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That's a fun.
Don't be a jerk.

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That's a fun thing.
Don't be a jerk.

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Don't be a well, I mean that.
That would be my advice to the

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fans. 100%, but it's you know
what and what I would say to

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other con organizers and look,
my show is a very small show.

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Look, it's been around for a
long time.

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It'll be like in two years,
it'll be 10 years, which I can't

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believe.
I would say to any person

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throwing a convention, just
remember what it is to be on the

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other side of the table.
Be the person coming in there.

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Be that shy person coming in
there.

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Be that person that doesn't
belong.

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When I was in school, you read
comics, man.

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You were out.
You were out.

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I had this one, one girl in
grammar school name was Debbie.

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I'm not going to say a last
name, but she saw me with comics

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and she said you read baby
books.

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I'm like, what is that?
You know, I'm I'm reading the

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Spiderman issue about drugs.
What are you talking about?

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Yeah, you.
Have no idea and where.

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You're like toes dipped into
adulthood right here, lady.

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You don't even know.
Debbie is.

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Yeah, Where is she now?
Yeah.

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You didn't read.
You didn't read comics and now

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you're a loser and I have a
show.

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So Debbie is not allowed at the
hurricane, No.

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If she does she Debbie's the
only one.

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I never know it's her.
No, no, they can't come in.

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One Debbie had a picture like Al
Bundy and now this person not

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allowed.
That's Hurricane.

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We'll take a polar and put it up
next to the door, you know, so I

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would say to any convention just
just really, you know, and and

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and you know, The thing is, you
never know what everybody's

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going through, right?
So, you know, a lot of people

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that read comics are very
introverted people.

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They're very they're very
solitary people, you know, and

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coming into that show sometimes
can really blow them away, you

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know.
So what I try and do is like

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when we had Joe Kelly at the
show, Cosmic comments gave me a

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load of Spiderman number ones to
give away.

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So that was like an hourly
giveaway.

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And I would take every winner
over to Joe Kelly and have them

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sign the book to them and they'd
get to meet him and talk to him.

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And that you could see people's
face lighting up like, wow,

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yeah, I've been the writer of
Amazing Spiderman.

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That's like, they're getting
totally cool.

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Yeah.
They're getting value.

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Well, I mean, I think if you're
saying remember what it was like

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to be on the other side of the
table, I think that's the best

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advice I've heard about running
one of these shows or doing

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anything like remember what it
was like to be the, you know, to

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be the customer.
Yeah, that's amazing.

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It's you, you have to because
and that's also how you get

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people to come back.
Like you get the kids to come in

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in costume.
The kids to come in costume,

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they're actually they're very
into it.

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They want to show you their
costume.

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They want to show you that
they're dressed up like spider

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man.
They want to show you this.

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So it's another thing where you
that's another way of walking

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them in.
So hey, you look great.

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Come on in, You know what have
you.

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So that's what I would do.
I would just say look, you know,

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and look, it's not, it's a one
day show, big deal.

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You know, you're not going to
break the bank, Absolutely

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you're not going to break the
bank.

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But we want everyone to have a
good time.

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And that's really to me what
it's all about.

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Just everybody's accepted.
Come on in.

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We want you here basically.
That's what I guess I'm trying

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to say.
One of the things that I've

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mentioned many times on this
show is that there's different

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types of experiences for
conventions.

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Never heard you say that one.
So for the con goer, a small

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show of this type, I think it's
a really good thing to do

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because you get to 1 on one time
that if you went to a New York

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Comic Con, you wouldn't even
have a fraction of the time with

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the with the people and the
talent there.

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And David does bring in some
talent.

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Yeah, Well, yeah, yeah, We have
Kristen.

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She was, she was just on your
show.

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Kristen Gun Snuck is coming in.
She did a hench girl and I'm

455
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,640
really excited about her because
I followed her work forever.

456
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,520
So she's coming down.
We also have artist Jeff Brennan

457
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,160
who worked on Courage the
Cowardly Dog.

458
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,320
We have artist Tom Travers, we
have Brian Benjamin, he's

459
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,120
another artist coming in.
We have Patrick Hickey Junior,

460
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,240
who is a voice on the Five
Nights of Freddy.

461
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,600
And of course our all pal,
publisher and distributor Phil

462
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,200
Russert, who will print your
comic and bring it to the comic

463
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,640
shop.
He'll be there also.

464
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,160
And our past guests, like I've
said, have been Joe Kelly.

465
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,520
We've had Star Trek novelist
Michael Jan Friedman, we've had

466
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,960
artist and writer Franco and
also Keith Williams has come a

467
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,080
bunch of times to the show.
So it's not the biggest show,

468
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,320
but I'm not going to say it's
the best show because it's not

469
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,120
the best show, but it's it's the
biggest show either.

470
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,320
But it's a lot of.
Fun, No.

471
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:20,000
You got a really big guest list,
though.

472
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,840
It's a lot of fun.
It's a big people show.

473
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,480
Yeah.
And yeah, that's what.

474
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,320
I'm saying it's a good going and
it's also a good, it's a good

475
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,160
primer for people that maybe
don't want to go to a larger

476
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,160
show and kind of understand
because it's a lot cheaper to go

477
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,480
to that show and interact with
everybody.

478
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,880
And another strange thing about
my show is at my show, a lot of

479
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,440
my friends who want to sell
their personal comics come.

480
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,920
And then you get guys coming in
that are buying short boxes of

481
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,120
comics for these guys, like, oh,
you're $50, take the whole thing

482
00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:48,880
out.
And these are books you don't

483
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,040
see normally.
So everybody from the vendor

484
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,000
standpoint always tells me, oh,
we did really well.

485
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000
I'm like really, you know, we
sold a lot of books.

486
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,240
I'm like, that's amazing.
Thank you.

487
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,720
So.
Convention starter show.

488
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,320
Yeah, that's exactly what I'd
say.

489
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,800
It's a convention starter show.
100% free parking.

490
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,560
Yep, free parking.
There's parking behind the

491
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,080
church.
There's parking at the CVS

492
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,720
parking lot.
There's.

493
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,000
Parking lot, trying to trip them
up with that.

494
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,160
Parking on the street.
There's parking everywhere.

495
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,320
Absolutely.
What about parking?

496
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,960
Can you park for free?
You know parking is a is.

497
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,000
A huge deal.
I'm just kidding.

498
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:21,320
There's free parking and we're
open on we're on Saturday, May

499
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,000
9th, OK, which is coming up and
we're also doing again on

500
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,960
December 12th and it runs from
10:00 AM in the morning till

501
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,440
4:00 PM in the afternoon.
It's at Bethany Congregational

502
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,760
Church, East Rockaway, NY 100
Main St.

503
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,120
It's a church that's been in the
community since 1885.

504
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,480
And now we just just got a a
brand new pastor.

505
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,600
His name is Pastor Prabhu, who
has just joined us, been there

506
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,160
about a year.
So he's also will be at the show

507
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,600
walking around.
You can say hello to him.

508
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,200
Will he be getting our free
blessings?

509
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:52,000
He may, may, maybe if you get,
if you get a, if you get a

510
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,440
ticket, he will absolve you if
he.

511
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,000
Finds you worthy.
You have to be worthy.

512
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,920
That's the truth.
But you have to, you have to

513
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,320
recite the Green Lantern oath.
If he don't recite, he doesn't

514
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,280
want to know you if you don't
have the Green Lantern oath, so.

515
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,120
So you have the secret
handshake, tell him the secret

516
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,280
get a blessing and the Green
Lantern old don't.

517
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,520
Forget the Green Lantern old.
There's a lot of commitment.

518
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,040
You have to commit to a lot
together.

519
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,760
Well, you know, we have two
cards, so we have two cards.

520
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,920
We have one guy just stands
around with a Green Lantern old

521
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,480
cue card the whole time.
I don't know why he comes.

522
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,760
But that's what he does.
He may be a cheat.

523
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,920
Sheet look over, look over and
blacker stay and brighter yeah,

524
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,080
that guy, yeah.
Just bless him.

525
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,080
Move on.
Come on, we got a line.

526
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,840
I absolve you of all your Go
away, go away.

527
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,840
We got a few minutes left.
I want to I want to put this

528
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,080
question.
In I would love to hear a.

529
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,640
Question What do you think has
been the biggest change from the

530
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,000
first hurricane to now?
You're 10 years in what?

531
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,200
What has changed within either
the convention itself or the

532
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,720
world of pop culture in your
mind?

533
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,600
Well, first of all, when when we
started, I don't think there

534
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,120
were as many common conventions
as they are now.

535
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,160
And there are a lot and there
are a lot of very successful

536
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,720
comic conventions here on not
even in Manhattan, I would say

537
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,080
here on Long Island.
Look, you got a bunch of stuff

538
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,840
in Queens.
I'm not.

539
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,280
I'm just talking about Long
Island.

540
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,600
There's a lot of stuff going on
in Long Island.

541
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,680
And to tell you the truth, it's
very hard to pick a date like

542
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,040
right now.
I told you May 9th, right?

543
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,440
We usually did it in June and
July.

544
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,720
Probably the reason when I was
doing in June and July is it

545
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,360
gets very hot in the in the gym
and we actually had a vendor

546
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:37,360
collapse and get taken away.
I felt very bad about it.

547
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:39,880
But then they found something
else wrong with him and he was

548
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,920
getting treated for that.
So they said don't feel bad

549
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,200
about it.
We found out about this.

550
00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,800
So that was wonderful.
So that's.

551
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,520
That's the church convention
right there.

552
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,280
That's some divine intervention
going on.

553
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,480
So we.
Came and put their hands on.

554
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,440
No, he's suffering from other
things.

555
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,080
He, he, he gave the oath.
That's it.

556
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,360
He gave the oath.
He's.

557
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,840
Good.
But his ring was out of power,

558
00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,960
so we had to bring over the
battery.

559
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,280
So so we had to pick May to get
away from that time of the year.

560
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,920
And of course there are other
shows going on, so you just

561
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,640
can't pick a date.
You have to look at calendars,

562
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,880
you have to talk to people, you
have to look at where everything

563
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,520
else is going.
Actually, I have a calendar

564
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,840
where I write down all the shows
that are going on just so I know

565
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,520
for myself, I mean, there are
monthly shows that go on all the

566
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,880
time that you have to keep away
from.

567
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:20,920
A lot of.
Luckily a lot of the shows that

568
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,200
are done are done on Sundays,
not Saturdays like mine.

569
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,960
We don't do it on Sunday because
it's church.

570
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,080
We're not going to do it at the
church.

571
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:28,600
That's not going to work out.
So we do it on Saturday, like I

572
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,000
said, 3:50, Saturday, May 9th at
Bethany Church, 100 Main St.

573
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,840
East Rockaway, NY.
If you want to get in touch with

574
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,640
me, it's
huracanh.urrcon@yahoo.com.

575
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,280
That's Huracan at yahoo.com or
Huracan on Facebook or Hurricane

576
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,200
Li on Instagram.
There you go.

577
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,800
Got it.
Alright, so we're almost out of

578
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,360
time.
Hassan, do you have any final

579
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:48,720
thoughts?
Go to Huracan.

580
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:54,280
Wow, I did it fit that right in
there.

581
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,440
Good.
Pizza, good pizza.

582
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,360
Mark will be walking around.
A slice for an hour all weekend.

583
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,400
I have a final thought.
My final thought is, first of

584
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,000
all, I want to Sana was it was a
pleasure meeting you, by the

585
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,840
way.
I think you're fabulous, Mark.

586
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,240
I think you you have been a
supporter for a long time.

587
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,280
You put up a lot of my silliness
and a lot of my Meshuggen and

588
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,920
stuff.
So I appreciate that you

589
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640
actually listen to me.
I can't believe you invited me

590
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,360
back because we based Sana and I
basically hijacked the show from

591
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,480
you.
But that's OK because it is our

592
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,920
show now.
Mark's not going to be here next

593
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,360
week, everybody.
Or the both of us won't be here.

594
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,600
It's going to be a Charlie.
Hello, Charlie.

595
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,920
So that this week's segment,
everybody listening to us on the

596
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,200
air.
We'll see you next week.

597
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,600
Everybody else, stay tuned for
more.

598
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,080
It came from the radio.
Fantastic.

599
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,040
Cradle Con returns to the Cradle
of Aviation Museum May 16th and

600
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,600
17th.
This year features AGI Joe

601
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,320
reunion with Larry Hama, plus
The Crow creator, James O Barr,

602
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,120
comics, cosplay, retro gaming
and more, all supporting the

603
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:01,640
museum education programs.
Tickets are at

604
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,640
cradleofaviation.org.
Hi, I'm Olivia Youngers from

605
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,560
Star Trek Picard, and you're
listening to It Came From the

606
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Radio.
Now back to our show.

607
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,320
And welcome back to It Came from
the radio, the official, the Big

608
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,880
Apple Con.
This is your host, Mark Torres

609
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,600
speaking.
I'm here live on tape at C2E2

610
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,080
all the way in Chicago.
I came all the way here just to

611
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,560
talk to my good friend Joe
McPhee.

612
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,640
McPhee, right?
So Joe, tell us a little bit

613
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,080
about yourself.
Tell us how you got into the

614
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,240
comics and tell you what's going
on, what's happening right now.

615
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,240
Well, I'm Joe D McPhee.
I'm the President of CGC

616
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,720
Studios.
This is a small little

617
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,040
publishing company here out of
Chicago, IL.

618
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,040
I have been doing comics
professionally ever since 2008

619
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,520
here.
So that's when the original

620
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,880
Amazonian #1 came out here.
The reason why I do comics

621
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,880
because it was a lifelong
passion of mine.

622
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,640
As soon as I got back from the
military, from the Air Force.

623
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,920
So I did a couple of years in
the Air Force and then when I

624
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,600
started college, one of my
college buddies got me started

625
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:04,040
back into drawing comics again.
And it got so to the point where

626
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,760
it's like he was working on a
lot of manga stories, I was

627
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,720
working on a lot of American
comic stories and he started to

628
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,160
take me to a lot of anime shows.
I was with him and artist Ally

629
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,880
and people started gravitating
to the stories, that stuff that

630
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,800
I was writing.
So I went ahead and just made it

631
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000
kind of like a almost a full
time being here because I do

632
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,840
have my regular nine to five job
here, but I do these type of

633
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,280
shows like C2E2, New York, and
I've been after New York back in

634
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,000
2016.
I've done Keystone Comic Con and

635
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,640
29.
No, yeah, 2019 was Keystone

636
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,680
Comic Con.
This is my passion here.

637
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,160
I've had been to every last C2E2
except for one and that is 2021,

638
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,640
the second year of the pandemic.
My actually my first time ever

639
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,880
to Chicago was 2020, just before
the pandemic started.

640
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,440
So it's a crazy little ride.
What's the biggest thing that

641
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,440
you've noticed a change from
2008 to 2000 and 2026 as far as

642
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,280
comics and the the business
goes?

643
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,680
What I know is most here is what
is one of the things that kind

644
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,680
of makes me kind of sad, and
that is being up here in premier

645
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,360
space here.
I'm so used to being back then,

646
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,120
being next to like a marble at
DCA, Top Cow, an image.

647
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,080
Now I'm right next to a place
that's selling purses, right

648
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,800
next to Pokémon being sold and
other vendors that selling

649
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,160
graphic novels.
But the publishers are gone.

650
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,800
And if if there are publishers
here, then nor either in Artist

651
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,680
Alley or a small press booth in
regular retail space.

652
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,440
And it just seems like the focus
on the creativity and the actual

653
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,480
publishing of comics is
diminished.

654
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,120
But the pop culture accident is
still alive and going here.

655
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,080
And it makes it harder for us
smaller people, especially if

656
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,040
we're taking that next step, to
be recognized, to be out in

657
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,000
front, to get that audience that
we rightfully deserve here to

658
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,280
pay attention.
To this So as an independent

659
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,400
creator, what tactics do you use
or what ideas you have to try to

660
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,920
bring yourself to the forefront?
What we count on here is really

661
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,720
social media per SE.
I do have a podcast called From

662
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,800
the Decimal Small Press Closure,
which I do Saturdays at 9:00 PM

663
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,280
Central.
I also are part of a group

664
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,680
called Comic Book Spectrum,
which was originally formed by

665
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,120
Brian K Morris way back, We
don't want to say back in like

666
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,400
2006 or so, which originally
started with him, Cly Hall,

667
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,840
Brian Rodman, and Eric Hall.
I was eventually brought into

668
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,200
that group about three years ago
because one of the things that I

669
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,280
brought up is that a lot of them
kept picking a lot of horror

670
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200
comics, and I wasn't really big
or horror.

671
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,520
So I put the jobs out.
The deal, It's like, find

672
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,400
something else.
And then they brought me in and

673
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,080
it's like, okay, this is the
deal.

674
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,240
I'm going to try to find things
that you guys might like.

675
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,080
I want you guys to find horror
related stories that I might

676
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,360
like.
And we just kind of met from

677
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,960
there.
Eventually Brian K Morris had to

678
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,200
step down as the lead producer
and he pretty much gave me the

679
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,640
producer title.
And from there I was pretty much

680
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,360
over the show for that point
forward here.

681
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760
We had a lot of panel changes.
Here.

682
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,880
We have Elaine Haygood, that's
part of the panel.

683
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,440
That's with me here at the booth
today.

684
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,920
And we also have Cliff Wirely,
it was in Tennessee.

685
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,720
That's a part of our panel.
But on a weekly basis for comic

686
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,240
perspective, there's been a real
eye opening type deal to

687
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,000
actually do those podcasts and
having that positive aspect for

688
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,520
comics and talking about things
that we like and things that we

689
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,280
see in the, you know, TV shows
and everything that go across

690
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,760
the whole Gambit.
But never focus on too much on

691
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,800
what is bad.
It's more about what is good.

692
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,720
So Speaking of what is good,
what products do you have?

693
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,720
What books do you have?
Tell us all about your stuff.

694
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,680
OK well I got 4 comic book
series here with us today.

695
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,520
Our most popular is Amazonia,
which is about a woman by the

696
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,440
name of Elisa Masters who pretty
much got shunned and and got

697
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,760
thrown out of her hometown at
Angel Falls back in her high

698
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,720
school days here.
But the thing about it is that

699
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,680
Elisa is not like the
stereotypical woman that you

700
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,400
might know here because she
doesn't know her family origin

701
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080
on her mother's side.
She went through like several

702
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,600
different strokes first here and
she's currently sitting, you

703
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,840
know, stands at about 18 foot
tall, but she doesn't understand

704
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,520
why or how or anything to that
matitude.

705
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,800
But when she was ousted from
Angel Falls, she was put into

706
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,680
this one program by the federal
government to train superheroes

707
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,040
and everything.
So she lived her life as a

708
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,480
superhero.
Fast forward seven years later,

709
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
she probably comes back to her
hometown to try to live a normal

710
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,720
life.
However, she finds out that this

711
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,280
one business mogul that's in her
town hasn't been deadly against

712
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,360
her dad.
The mobile found out that she's

713
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440
back in town.
The whole big deal came down to

714
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,880
about stealing her DNA, and now
they're about to get ready to

715
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,360
create super soldiers using her
DNA.

716
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,200
That's where issue #7 starts
out, where the first being from

717
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,480
her DNA is created.
All right, so that's one book.

718
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,920
You said you got four, one of
the other 3.

719
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,120
AWF is about a wrestling
federation that does not know

720
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,160
that they're trained the next
generation of superheroes.

721
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,640
All the women that come there
may have like all these

722
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,000
different super abilities, but
they're treated like they're

723
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,600
normal individuals here.
AWF got popular enough where

724
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,400
people complained about there's
not enough wrestling, so we came

725
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,920
out with prior time Saturday
night.

726
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:27,800
Prior time Saturday night is the
actual WWE slash AEW every

727
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,000
Saturday afternoon pro wrestling
show that goes the full game and

728
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,960
full car and everything.
You see the all the matches and

729
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,160
everything in its entirety what
those matches entail.

730
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,800
There's no energy blasts or
anything to that magic, but you

731
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,920
got power bombs for 50 feet up
in the air.

732
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,040
Cross corner luchador battles
where it's just like it's just

733
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,280
like one move after another
after a month, another in the

734
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,880
mid air.
Anything and everything goes

735
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,520
here.
So it's just one of those types

736
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,120
of things that were just real
fun.

737
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,440
If you like pro wrestling.
But if you like the behind the

738
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280
scenes as far as understanding
the origins of the characters,

739
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,160
the stuff about their life and
and what is actually going on

740
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,120
behind the secrets of this
federation.

741
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,360
That's where AWF is is for the
last book is for one that we

742
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,840
premiered today.
Well, I shouldn't say today, but

743
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,800
for this seat to eat you.
It is called Legends of the

744
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,480
Giants of Slave and what that
book is about.

745
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,239
It's an anthological series
here.

746
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,080
And this is more along the lines
of taking kind of like a deep

747
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,880
dive into lore, especially giant
lore.

748
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,159
And when you think about giants,
you think about Jack and and the

749
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,120
Beast talking, all these other
things where all the giants were

750
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,080
male.
What happened to the female

751
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,400
giants and everything?
Why are they not talked about?

752
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,000
And then on top of that, we also
look at the fetishization of

753
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,600
female giants as well in the
series for each issue, the first

754
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,120
story is always going to be more
of like a lecture that kind of

755
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,880
highlights some of the fetish
aspects here to kind of explain

756
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,000
what to look for and what some
of the things that might pop up

757
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,840
in some of the stories.
And then we just go off the

758
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,520
rails with different chapters
and stories that we have for our

759
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,920
anthology series and issue #1 we
start off with the prequel

760
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,240
chapters for horror anthology
here.

761
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,800
Then that horror anthology deals
with the aspect of

762
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,760
compatibility.
Then we have another one which

763
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,880
is just a fun little ROM dealing
with experimentation with side

764
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,840
effects.
And the other one is more of

765
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,520
like a comedy dealing with a
tailor who inherited this shop

766
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,800
from his grandfather, his
Photoshop or his grandfather.

767
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,840
You know, he was classically
traded as a tailor, but it turns

768
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,600
out that he was a tailor for
beings of another realm and no

769
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,240
realm.
And that other realm happened to

770
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,720
have female giants as well, and
they happened to come and visit.

771
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:45,360
In all, let's just say his life
is not going to be the same.

772
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,680
That actually sounds pretty darn
awesome.

773
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,000
We're almost out of time, so
where can be able to find out

774
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,800
more about yourself?
Where can those social media

775
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,360
stuff go?
So you can find

776
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,320
ourbooksdirectly@cgcstudios.com,
which is X as in Xerox, I as in

777
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,520
India, G as in George, E as in
Edward, N as in Nancy, C as in

778
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Charlie, Y as in
yankeestudios.com.

779
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,760
Or you can hit me up on YouTube,
which is from the desktop small

780
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,760
person that is the actual
channel.

781
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,240
Or you can hit me up on Facebook
at Joe D Mcfee.

782
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,440
Yeah, so we have like 20 seconds
left.

783
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,920
Do you have any final thoughts
for our listeners?

784
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,400
The major thing here is always
stay positive.

785
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,480
Always talk about what you like.
Because people what you talk,

786
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,080
talk about what you like.
People will start listening to

787
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,440
you and you might make another
fan of what you like.

788
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,760
Well, I, I do like your stuff.
I do like you as a cool person.

789
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,440
It's finally nice to meet you an
actual physical person because

790
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,840
I've only met you online.
So with that, we're going to

791
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,640
take a break and we'll be right
back with more.

792
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,840
It came from the radio.
This is Michael Bell, the voice

793
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,600
of Duke from GI Joe and I am
here at Cradle Com and I am with

794
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,680
It came from the radio.
Now back to our show.

795
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,000
Welcome back to What came from
the Radio.

796
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,760
This is Jennifer Leisfeldman.
I'm here with Christopher

797
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,520
Kaufman.
He's an author, composer,

798
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,640
presenter, illustrative artist
and performer.

799
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,840
He started creating imaginative
fantasy books with illustrative

800
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,320
art at the age of 9.
During high school years, he

801
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,920
found music and attended a music
composition at Cornell

802
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,640
University where he studied with
seasoned and maybe even you call

803
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,680
them infamous composers.
His stories never left him.

804
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:21,040
He's now completing book eight
of his classical epic fantasy

805
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,720
series, Tales of the Ocean City,
for which, in addition to the

806
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:29,360
graphically illustrated pages,
he creates audio albums with

807
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,240
music, narration and sound
design.

808
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,800
Which I love because if you
listen to this show at all, I

809
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,720
constantly ask people if they
have audio books that relate to

810
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:43,800
their books so I can listen and
really get into it and have the

811
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,840
sound effects and the visuals.
So here he is, with no further

812
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,240
ado.
Welcome to a game from the

813
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,280
radio.
Thank you so much, Jennifer.

814
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,640
I'm really happy to be here.
Thank you.

815
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,800
Thank you for being here.
So what gave you the idea to, I

816
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,960
mean, you started with music
first before the books it seems

817
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,960
like.
So what gave you the idea to add

818
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,080
the narration and the music to
your books?

819
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,560
Most people just put a book out
there and it sits on the shelf,

820
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:13,880
and then I harass them about
making an audio book and then

821
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,080
that's it.
But you're doing what I've been

822
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,760
asking for.
So how did you get there?

823
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,160
That's an interesting question,
and it took a long time.

824
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,880
In your intro there, you
mentioned, yeah, I'd started

825
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000
writing books and fantasy books
with illustrations, you know,

826
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,680
when I was a kid, like 9.
And then I went to in New

827
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,360
Orleans, the New Orleans Center
for Creative Arts.

828
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,080
That's where I started music in
New Orleans and at these great

829
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,560
teachers and got into music just
there is my life.

830
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,200
I became a composer and lived
the life of a composer.

831
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,000
I got my, as you mentioned, my
doctor degrees, advanced degrees

832
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,040
in music from Cornell
University, right?

833
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,640
Yeah, I studied with Pulitzer
Prize winning composers and all

834
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,600
these amazing people and made
permanent friends with musicians

835
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,840
and I continue with that.
But by the time I had finished

836
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,160
my degrees, you know, I'm the
type of person, you know, maybe

837
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,080
you are too.
I don't know.

838
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,880
But I put myself to sleep at
night.

839
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,240
Everyone has a different
routine, but for me, it's an

840
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:16,320
imaginative fantasy scenario of
some kind that gets me into it.

841
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,680
And then I live it and then I
fall asleep.

842
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:23,000
So I had done that all these
years while I was doing my

843
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:26,360
Conservatory and music stuff
with my stories, Tales of the

844
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,280
Ocean City.
So I had my music degrees on one

845
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,520
hand and the other the complete
event structure of Tales of the

846
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,600
Ocean City in my head.
And then to get to your question

847
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,040
there, I started writing it
down.

848
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,480
First it was good, you know, it
was all right, but it really

849
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,680
wasn't really happening.
You know, it wasn't it, you

850
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,400
know, that feeling that you get.
And so then another thing that

851
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,880
happened there around that time
was I started developing my home

852
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,720
laboratory.
You know what you can produce in

853
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:00,480
your studio and I was doing like
independent films and stuff like

854
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,240
that, scoring the music.
And I put in my 1000 hours, you

855
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,480
know, and I had this whole stuff
going to orchestra and all these

856
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,000
sounds and everything going on
and the, the abilities.

857
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,160
And they said, well, why not?
And then I started narrating and

858
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,680
recording my narration of the
stories, tales of the Ocean

859
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,720
City, and composing the music.
And so it all happened at once.

860
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,800
And then that was it.
Like the sound, the experience

861
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,560
of saying the words changed how
I wrote them.

862
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,400
And, and then I, you know, I
literally found my voice with

863
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,280
the music.
And sometimes the music was

864
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,960
first, sometimes the, the, the
narration and story was first.

865
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,800
Even I knew what was going on in
the store was going to happen.

866
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,040
Generally a lot of things
changed and grew as I did it.

867
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,040
The first complete books, the
first two books were completely

868
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,080
composed this way with the music
and the voice and the story all

869
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,160
happening at the same time.
And that's like 2 hours of full

870
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,040
orchestra, you know, like I'm a,
I'm a composer, right?

871
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,160
So a doctor, you know, music
Symphony.

872
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,520
So it's huge, symphonic, strong,
really powerful, passionate

873
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,160
music that is a just a real part
of it all.

874
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,880
It's all together as a one.
And by the end of that, I had my

875
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,640
voice and my storytelling was
happening, you know, And then I

876
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,760
did the physical books and I did
the art and I worked on the, you

877
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,960
know, artistic illustrations and
illustrative art and programs

878
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,160
that helped me do that using
lots of them, blah, blah, blah.

879
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,320
And so then the books were
there.

880
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,120
So then I had the physical
books.

881
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,800
And then the complete experience
theoretically is for, you know,

882
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,960
people.
Well, it is for people to have

883
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,680
the book and be reading and
listening at the same time

884
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,840
because each page of the books
are filled with color, like full

885
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,960
page color and illustration is
illustrative arts and all kind

886
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,040
of stuff so that that you can
feel it and you see it and the

887
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,200
colors influence your feelings
too in the book.

888
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,400
So it all works together for a
very immersive storytelling

889
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,600
sound world universe that I
created just organically by just

890
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,520
doing it.
And it just happened and there

891
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,120
it is.
And then I continued.

892
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:11,960
Yes, I was listening to
something you compose called

893
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,200
Music from Earth, and I've
actually been told verbatim you

894
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,800
are not of this Earth.
A few people have said I'm an

895
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,480
alien and that's a whole nother
thing, but something that might

896
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,000
not be from Earth, who knows,
maybe none of us are.

897
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,680
You created music from Earth.
It was very relaxing and it

898
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,440
created a soundscape environment
to live in while I was preparing

899
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,000
for this interview and
showering.

900
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,200
And it's, you know, music is
maybe creates a mood more than

901
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,840
others.
Anyway, I just wanted to share

902
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,800
that I thought, I thought it was
just created a nice environment

903
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,520
that I really enjoyed.
Now as a creative myself, let's

904
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,320
say I'm shooting a movie on
Friday.

905
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,680
So I'm always working on some
type of movie or film every like

906
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,040
two or three days.
Now that's my life.

907
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,480
And you know, just, you know, we
don't know each other yet.

908
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:06,120
So now to do that, I, I'm mostly
doing things that I want to do

909
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,280
at this point of my life at
almost 42.

910
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,280
But I spent a lot of time doing
things I didn't.

911
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,680
But the point is, and my
question for you is in order to

912
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,560
do the things I really want to
do, like I think my role on

913
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,400
Friday is going to be fun and
it's cool.

914
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,280
There's a lot of things I have
to do that I really, really

915
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,600
don't want to do.
And there's something called Eat

916
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,200
the Frog that says, you know,
you have to get stuff done.

917
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,680
Do the hardest thing when you
first wake up and do the hardest

918
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,280
thing first.
Eat that frog, get over it, and

919
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,960
then you can do the stuff that's
interesting.

920
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,200
So when it comes to music,
composing and writing, all these

921
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,600
books, the tales of the Ocean
City, what's maybe something you

922
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,960
really don't want to do, but you
have to do, and it's part of the

923
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,440
process.
Well, to answer that question,

924
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,840
what comes to my mind is not
anything to do with the creative

925
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,280
process of these projects, but
you know what you have to do in

926
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,960
life to keep yourself going.
So I have a day job.

927
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,440
I, I love it, but it's, you
know, it's something you have to

928
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,880
do that isn't exactly what you
feel like doing at the moment.

929
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:07,640
So in mine is teaching.
I teach music usually, you know,

930
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,960
people who, who get doctorates
in music composition go teaching

931
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,640
in colleges, but I, I never felt
connected to the academic

932
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,600
environment.
I found it like when I was

933
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,800
trying to connect with it, I
started writing my worst music,

934
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,560
you know, it got more and more
academic and then I stopped and

935
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,680
I went in my own way and
rediscovered myself and pieces

936
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,080
like you mentioned music from
earth that was surprised you

937
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,240
found it relaxing because the
first movement is called Earth

938
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,760
rhythm.
And it's like the depiction of

939
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,640
volcanoes in the in the depths
of the ocean, all this violent,

940
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,000
wild, ecstatic, powerful music.
Now in the middle, maybe you got

941
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,320
to the middle part that's
peaceful, but.

942
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:54,600
Yeah, there was some part that
was really nice.

943
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,640
I enjoyed it, whatever it is.
Sure, sure.

944
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,480
Anyway, so.
So teaching.

945
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,360
So yeah, a lot of times when you
try to fit into someone else's

946
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,600
mold, even for this radio show,
I was thinking that I was like,

947
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,760
you know, I've kind of been
doing what Mark, the main host,

948
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,960
kind of told me to do and wants
to do for five years.

949
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,280
And I was like, let's you know,
I'm not going to disrespect him

950
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,440
in any way, but my style is
vastly different than probably

951
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,280
95% of the jerseys I talk for
the show.

952
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,160
Because when you're fitting into
a school or if you're hosting

953
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,280
for a company, you know, I've
shot commercials for Optimum and

954
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,880
Project Runway in different
companies, that vibe is going to

955
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,400
be very different when you're
working for someone else and

956
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,640
when you're creating for
yourself, which might be

957
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:41,640
completely the opposite of what
you're doing.

958
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,760
So I can understand that whole
teaching, you know, putting you

959
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,040
in a box and maybe making you do
things that aren't exactly your

960
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,200
instincts.
Whereas hopefully when you're

961
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,880
creating your own work, you can
be the locus of control and do

962
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,480
things that feel right for you.
Do you do that?

963
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,640
Of course, yes, that is the way
it is.

964
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,280
You are your own boss at every
way.

965
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,440
I also put on concerts.
So as a concert presenter, boy,

966
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,520
that has a lot of work in it
that isn't necessarily your

967
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:18,160
first joy, which is, you know,
developing advertisements and

968
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,840
audience and asking people to
come and getting them to come

969
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,040
and that kind of thing to come
to the concert.

970
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,440
Luckily, one of my concerts is
called the Fantastic Theatre and

971
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:34,720
it is once a year, the Sunday
before Halloween in a theatre, a

972
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,480
beautiful theatrical
environment.

973
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,720
And it's like about presenting
new music and art to people of

974
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:44,440
all ages all at once.
And it used to have a really

975
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,040
strong Halloween theme, which is
why it's around there.

976
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:52,840
For that one, I solved the
problem because I became friends

977
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:58,280
with the guy who directs the
Mark Twain Middle School band.

978
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,200
It's a really high level band.
And my daughter went, was in the

979
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,760
band.
That's How I Met the guy.

980
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,760
You know, she went to the, the
school middle school there.

981
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,080
And so now I have the entire
band come from my show and I, I,

982
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,960
they sit on stage throughout,
like on a corner of the stage

983
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,240
for the entire show and all of
their parents and guardians are

984
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,920
required to be there.
And then the school gives me a

985
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,920
big check to pay for all of
their tickets.

986
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,160
And then I add other people.
But my, I have like standing

987
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,440
room only every year at minimal
effort.

988
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,280
I am so happy about that.
That's very cool.

989
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,840
And that actually ties back to
one of my brands called So So

990
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,080
High.
It's a fashion brand and it's

991
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,000
all about making children do
child labor for low wages.

992
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,080
So that's a good.
One, so that's kind of what

993
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,920
you're doing, you understand,
you know, put kids to work or

994
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,920
put, you know, as I'm not going
to mention his name.

995
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,760
There's a comedy Booker that
refers to the people that are

996
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,200
part of the show and watch the
show as suckers.

997
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,680
She's got to get suckers to come
to the show and you know, and

998
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,480
children anyway, child labor.
I'm a big fan of it.

999
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,280
That's probably the only reason
I would have children is to put

1000
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,760
them to work for me.
But I'm not going to do that.

1001
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,480
You know, the cost benefit ratio
is just really not adding up.

1002
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,720
Now you have to put in a lot of
work to just for the events.

1003
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,520
You know, I did comedy events
and live shows and Film Festival

1004
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,720
shows and I was putting together
1 show for a Film Festival.

1005
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:30,480
Took me like 8 weeks.
It took over my life, it took

1006
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,160
over everything.
It was very exhausting.

1007
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,120
I did it for three years in a
row and honestly for the last

1008
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,200
two years I really enjoyed more
making radio movies, commercials

1009
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,760
and forgetting these live events
that are soul sucking.

1010
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,040
How do you what things do you
have to cut out of your life or

1011
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,480
sacrifice to make time for all
this productivity?

1012
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,040
I'm sure you know people say,
oh, you can do anything.

1013
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,320
No, you use 24 hours in a day
and you have to neglect certain

1014
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,360
things if you're going to do
other things.

1015
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,600
So like other part of your life
that you have to neglect to get

1016
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,240
all this stuff done?
Maybe in the past, but I've

1017
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:08,760
really got it all organized at
this point.

1018
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,320
Where I can just be there all
day, you know, be in that world.

1019
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:18,240
And but similar to your solution
to things.

1020
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:23,680
I think next week I hope
starting my own podcast where I

1021
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,000
will eventually include all my
work, but starting it.

1022
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,720
It's going to be a new episode
of Tales of the Ocean City each

1023
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,680
week.
It was originally conceived as

1024
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,720
episodes, you know, so each,
each podcast will have a 10

1025
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:44,520
minute episode up front of Tales
of the Ocean City ongoing

1026
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,920
fantasy adventure with music and
everything.

1027
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:52,880
And then the second-half will be
a variety of things, interviews,

1028
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,680
poetic readings, blog entries
that I turn into things I read

1029
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,760
and have music along with it and
all kinds of things like that.

1030
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:06,280
Talk about fantasy authors like
Lloyd Alexander, Lord Dunsany.

1031
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,880
I have a a fun way of doing
interviews which is called to

1032
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,160
the Phantasmagoria Club with
Professor Calabash and he he

1033
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,880
interviews mythological figures
and characters from my books.

1034
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,840
So you get to know the books
better and the characters and

1035
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,480
get in depth with them with
through this fun device that I

1036
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,800
include that will be starting up
soon.

1037
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,800
And it it gets to, you know,
then I'll I'll be able to say

1038
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:36,120
another thing that I do that I
wish to inter, you know,

1039
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,000
introduce you to are my
environment environmental

1040
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,840
pieces.
And here's an excerpt or a bit

1041
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,960
from music from Earth.
And then if you wish to explore

1042
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,280
further, you can go to my
website and see all about that.

1043
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,000
So eventually I'll be able to
tie together, you know, all the

1044
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,840
different things I do into that
one place.

1045
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,320
And that's so much fun because I
just create the episodes here in

1046
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,720
my studio, you know, where I
love to work my laboratory and

1047
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:06,720
get everything going.
I'll put together.

1048
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,960
And so that's what I'm doing.
It's kind of similar to what

1049
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,920
you're saying, how you wrapped
things into a, a bubble that

1050
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,000
isn't constant out, you know,
extroverted, getting people

1051
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,600
together to come to festivals.
You can focus on your work on

1052
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,480
yourself.
Yeah, having that home studio is

1053
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,840
really important.
I had someone that wants me to

1054
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,800
start a podcast with which I've
already done.

1055
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,280
I'm never partnering.
It's all about features.

1056
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,160
But I'm never going to partner.
I'm a lone wolf.

1057
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,000
That's it.
I got my studio here 2018,

1058
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,360
bought this house, built
wardrobe closets, have tons of

1059
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,400
props, have so much stuff that
to fill up a car, it would it

1060
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,960
would take like nine cars to
bring this to Brooklyn, you

1061
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,640
know, to do, oh, come to this,
we'll come to this studio.

1062
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,000
No, I have everything here
because you have to have your

1063
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,720
process in your production
studio.

1064
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:55,960
And some people don't understand
that.

1065
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,040
So I'm like, I'm not travelling.
If you want to come to me, maybe

1066
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,960
I'll feature you.
But like, no, you can't.

1067
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,280
You can't bring musical
equipment and lighting and props

1068
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,800
and special effects.
So the process, I have the

1069
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,200
process before I do everything
before the show, I take a bunch

1070
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,920
of drugs.
Now I take a bunch of legal

1071
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,640
drugs like coffee today there's
called cytocholine.

1072
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,000
Helps your brain a little bit.
You know, it's legal.

1073
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,440
It wakes you up.
Wheat grass I have out my door.

1074
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,360
I didn't have wheat grass.
I'm really upset about that, but

1075
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,520
wheat grass for anyone
listening, it actually can wake

1076
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,800
your brain up so much that if
you're on MALIS, which I'm not,

1077
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,520
but you know, some people take
MALIS and depressive drugs and

1078
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,560
things like that, it can make
you mad.

1079
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:44,520
So your process, are there any
processes you do before

1080
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,160
composing music or writing a
book?

1081
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,840
Well, you know, I always want to
get in shape, but basically I,

1082
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:57,400
I, I do like cold brew coffee.
You know, where I, it's real

1083
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,880
simple to make and I down some
of that and get to work.

1084
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,640
It's just a constant process.
I mean, I, what I love, one

1085
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,440
thing I love that's new to me,
even though it's been around for

1086
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,480
a while now, is the cloud.
So I can sit in my car and I'm

1087
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,720
waiting, you know, for my
daughter to, to get in so we can

1088
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:19,680
drive somewhere, whatever it is.
And I can pull out my phone and

1089
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,480
write just right, right, right.
And then I go home and it's on

1090
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,080
my computer, you know, and vice
versa.

1091
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,360
So anywhere you are, I can, you
know, take, I just tell myself,

1092
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,160
OK, just do one word, just
change one word, just do one

1093
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,600
paragraph.
And then I end up working.

1094
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:40,080
And then she says, Dad, it's
time to go, you know, so it's a

1095
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,200
constant thing like that.
So it's just who I am, who you

1096
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,120
are.
And you're just doing it kind of

1097
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,600
all the time without thinking
about it.

1098
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:52,360
Just do it.
You know, it's just after a

1099
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,120
while, that's just who you are.
Music comes to you.

1100
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,800
You're right, you do it.
It's more like you don't have to

1101
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,480
wait for anything.
You don't have to wait for

1102
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,120
inspiration or anything like
that.

1103
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,280
You just do it.
You just do it.

1104
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,160
Do it, do it, do it.
And it's a constant flow.

1105
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,440
Yes, yes, a lot of the things I
did when I was like 2-3 four I'm

1106
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,880
doing now professionally getting
paid for like writing jingles or

1107
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,000
doing funny dances.
And I used to entertain my dad's

1108
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,720
friends and just, you know, come
in and have all these like fake

1109
00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:21,560
commercials and not making
commercials.

1110
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,200
Anyway, yeah, that my final
thought for this because we're

1111
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,640
at the end of the interview,
which I've given this advice.

1112
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,480
You know, I'm not I'm only
almost 42.

1113
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,800
So I, I, I've held back on
giving advice.

1114
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,560
I used to be a give health
seminars and be a fitness

1115
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,840
teacher, but I'm like, you know
what, let's do more in life

1116
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,640
before we give advice.
But I'm going to give one piece

1117
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,360
of advice that's worked for me
and it's obviously worked for

1118
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,080
you to use the cloud for
writing.

1119
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,360
And I had someone call me
Crumple paper girl like 10-11

1120
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,640
years ago because I'd always
walk around.

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00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,760
I had all these notes, I'd write
down notes everywhere.

1122
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,320
And then, you know, transcribing
the paper to the computer.

1123
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,320
That would get crazy.
So now on my phone, I highly

1124
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,760
recommend this for anyone
writing a song.

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00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,920
Stand up music, movies, $0.50,
tell all documentary about

1126
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,880
Diddy, whatever you're creating,
get Microsoft OneDrive or you

1127
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,680
know, some type of note taking
file that can go from your

1128
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,240
computer to your phone to your
pad to your car, everywhere.

1129
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:21,120
And obviously, you know, you
don't want to put anything

1130
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,760
explicit or incriminating 'cause
that will end up everywhere and

1131
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,840
people will see it.
So that's a little downside to

1132
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,560
this, but there's no excuses.
You got an idea, you got a

1133
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,600
quote, you got a movie idea.
Get your phone out.

1134
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,920
You know, you can do it.
I do it at a light.

1135
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,720
I'm not recommending people that
text and drive or text while

1136
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,600
you're at a very long light.
You know, there are 5 minute

1137
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,760
lights out there.
But yeah, get everything on your

1138
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,600
written down in these files.
And if you're not doing it, I

1139
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,880
think you're going to fail at
life.

1140
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,720
So that's my mandatory rule for
everyone I want to work with.

1141
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:55,920
And I, I, I tried to get this
done with one producing partner

1142
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,240
and he never did it.
And that's one of many reasons

1143
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:01,280
why I'll never work with him
because he doesn't write notes.

1144
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,800
So that's my very long final
thought.

1145
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,920
Please give us great final
thought and where to find you.

1146
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,480
My books and stuff are all at
Tales of the oceancity.com.

1147
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,440
That's easy to remember.
talesofthecity.com and my main

1148
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,080
website for my work, if you want
to just see a bit of everything,

1149
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,240
is sound artists.
That's sound art.

1150
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:29,080
Us, US sound artists.
That's kind of my interface from

1151
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,880
my creative world into the
world.

1152
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,800
And so that's my home website,
which has a lot of things in it.

1153
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,840
My pages are designed so you can
scroll and get a lot in 30

1154
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,840
seconds, but then you can dive
in and delve and for as long as

1155
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,720
you want.
And then I have a YouTube

1156
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:49,240
channel called Sound Artists on,
on YouTube and the playlists and

1157
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:51,640
you can see the classical
pieces, the environmental

1158
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,120
pieces, the stuff you're talking
about, music from Earth and

1159
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,080
Hudson Valley music and many of
those, which are some of my most

1160
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,760
performed pieces.
And then Tales of the Ocean City

1161
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,400
and audio books and all that
kind of thing.

1162
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,040
And the fantastic theater.
I have beautiful like 15 minute

1163
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,480
highlights films from my
concerts and you can see the

1164
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,640
whole thing right there.
And it's they're fun to watch.

1165
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,800
So there you go, that's how you
find me.

1166
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,320
And what date city?
Where are these concerts for

1167
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,600
people that want to go in
person?

1168
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,600
Downtown Brooklyn.
Downtown Brooklyn all right

1169
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,320
that's the end of the interview.
We're way over time.

1170
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,240
Thank you so much for sharing
your thoughts and also sharing

1171
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,120
your work with me.
I find you very inspiring while

1172
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,720
I was taking a shower and and
getting ready yeah sorry that's

1173
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,520
that's I do love preparing in
the shower and texting in the

1174
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,720
shower.
It has good.

1175
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,160
This is very weird.
Final thought, that's what

1176
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,160
happens when I don't script the
interview out.

1177
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Thank you so much again.
And now back to the studio for

1178
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,560
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1179
00:57:53,680 --> 00:58:00,280
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1180
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,480
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1181
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,200
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1182
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,280
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1183
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,280
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1184
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,280
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1185
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1186
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,680
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1187
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,000
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00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,040
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1189
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,000
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1190
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,520
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1191
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,200
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1192
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,600
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1193
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,440
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1194
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,000
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1195
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1197
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