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0:44 Khan, this is your host, Mark Torres speaking. We're here in front of a live studio audience at the Eastmeadow Public Library for our 102nd live show courtesy of the Eastmeadow Public Library. I am here with my Co host Elman Jenny Feldy and I'm here with our special guest. We're going to be talking to with him about which is awesome because he's right here, Mr. Kelly Gordon. Everyone out there in our radio land. So just for people who are, who are or might be coming in late, our guest who we were supposed to have, which is Doctor Damel Elliott Hubbard, she was an author. She got stuck on a train for two hours. She is an author. She's stuck. She was stuck on a train for two hours.

1:25 She is not able to make this show. So we will reschedule her as soon as possible. So I want to thank Kelly for coming down, stepping in for us to talk about the M Con. Thank you for letting me come in and talk about M Con. I really appreciate you. Thank you all. Right. And this show is possible because of Kelly, our guest today. That is correct. Yes, that's actually true. I mentioned we're going to be talking to, with and about Kelly in just a few minutes. Before we do any of that, we have to take it away with the news. The news is brought to you in part by the fine folks at sci-fi dot Radio that is sci-fi bigger Wi-Fi, as well as the fine folks at the Big Apple Con of which we are the official radio show of celebrating over 26789 years of comic bookness and pop culture stuff.

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2:53 As we always do, we start off with the sad news. So we have have two bits of sad news. Actor Cory Parker died recently of cancer while Corey was in a handful of movies and TV shows. He is perhaps best known for his role of John Morgan, the ships doctor for 25 episodes in the Robert Ulrich Urich LED Love Boat, the next wave, which ran from 1998 to 1999 and which I remember him the most as Neil Barrage in the Fox series Flying Blind, which ran for 22 episodes from 1992 to 1993. I was a big fan of the Fox shows when they first came out because that was that was the hip and coolest thing to do because back in the day, for the people who don't know, there was only three networks back in the day. And then Fox came along and they had all the edgy and and and crazy stuff. And I distinctly remember Flying Blind was supposed to be some wacky crazy comedy about about a straight man and the flighty girl.

3:44 So it was basically like Dharma and Greg, but that was their version and he played the Greg character of Dharma and Greg Kelly. Do you remember that show Flying Blind by any chance? No, no. But you mentioned something about The Love Boat that's. The new one, The Love Boat, the next wave. When they. When they brought that back. I don't remember the old wave. The old wave. That was my thing, right? Right after Fantasy Island. Yes, Yes. You never watched The Love Boat? Yeah. No. Do they have love? Vote Now 2026 I'm sure. I don't think so. I don't think they have. I feel like if they did, there would be like all these like polyamorous relationships. I just have to say because I'm, I'm 42. Listen, I'm not going in a lewd direction, OK? I'm, I'm 42.

4:26 I'm a gun Christian woman. You know that I've been around a lot of people in their 20s recently and I've been enlightened by the people 20 years younger than me that polyamory is like normal thing in that generation. And this is new to me this week. It's, it's very, very fascinating. So The Love Boat would probably be a polyamorous boat if it was made $0.23. That's what I have to say. He was 60 years old. Well, they'll they'll throw into that, you know, I think now they have like reality shows that pretty much will take over those kind of sex, you know, TV shows or whatnot. You know, you have so much like reality, you know, Love on the Island and all those other things as I see nowadays on Netflix especially, I don't watch it right.

5:07 You just know of it. I just see that. Yeah, yeah. But you know, but there's your, you know, I mean, love, you know, love boat right there, you know, basically. So last of the sad news Last of the sad news actress Jennifer reunion reunion RUNYON Runion Runion also died recently, also from cancer, while she was also in a handful of movies and TV shows. Pierced perhaps best known for her roles as Cindy Brady in the 1998 reunion movie A Very Brady Christmas, and she also played and the female lead in the 1993 film Connoisseur and What I remember her as Gwendolyn Pierce in 18 episodes of the sitcom Charles in charge from 1984 to 1990.

5:47 There are certain people that you just kind of see around and there's certain people that are in a movie that they have a little tiny role. What's what's the saying? There's no such thing as a small role, a small act of a small role. I forget the. Saying yeah, I don't like the saying, so I don't care. So for those of you who watch Ghostbusters, the original Ghostbusters movie, there was a scene with Bill Murray and there was a blonde girl in the beginning when he's doing the tarot card readings that that was her. So people are like, oh, her, but she was more in other things. But that was people who can remember her from that these. People were 60 years old and 65. 65 years old, yeah. Pretty young. Yeah, it is. And they got both got cancer, which is. Cancer is very rampant by the way now. Yes. Yes, the rates are higher.

6:28 I'm very well aware of that. So that's it for the sad news. So moving on to the not as sad news from the That's a lot of nuts. The part the new Scream sequel Part 7, for those of you keeping track, has taken the number one spot in domestic box office, pulling in $63.6 million in ticket sales in its first week of release, beating out the newly animated film Goat, which came the number two spot, making an additional $12 million in its second week of release. For those of you keeping track, Avatar is still the highest grossing film of this year. That's Avatar part three with $401.7 million, followed by the Zootopia sequel with $426.4 million. Now, as I've been saying since we've been doing the show this year, because both of these movies came out last year, the numbers are slightly as you and Avatar has made this year, $151.4 million.

7:16 Zootopia has made $88.5 million. Goat comes in at #2 with $76.5 million. So those are the top 3 movies of the year so far. Jennifer, have you seen any of those 3 movies? No. No, I don't know anything about them but. Kelly, have you seen them? I did not see the Scream 7. No, I have not. But I did see goat with my son. You know, I do have to say it makes a good father and son trip to go to the movies and watch the goat. You know that my son is sent to he's at that age. He's like around like 11 going on 12 or I should say going 11 on on 25. And either way, he's starting to act nowadays. But you know, he's sent to basketball and kind of things too as well and seeing like more of like a character, like just as the goat as you play it, you know, you know, such like a slice of life growing up into, you know, his main goal as a character within, you know, the development of him becoming the goat and whatnot.

8:10 Me and my son definitely enjoyed it. It was a great movie. And, you know, being animated as it was, you know, it's definitely was a good watch for, you know, for, you know, family and stuff, things like. That so would Kid Kelly also have like that? Kid Kelly. Well, yeah, Yes, because I grew up on the, you know, the golden age of Saturday morning cartoons. Plot me in front of the TV and I'll be watching all that. I'll be watching he Man, GI Joe, The Smurfs, the whole 9. I think I would enjoy it myself. I mean, actually, it was a very good story. You know, the GOAT. I really did enjoy it. Scream Seven. I remember seeing the first one. Yeah, in theaters, the first screen and that one, you know, and you know, it was a phenomenal age of movies where they opened up a whole new genre, you know, So I definitely have to give it up. Seven of them.

8:58 But hey, you know it, You know, they do what they do. People still do enjoy it, enjoy the genre. Why not go for it? What about? Zootopia. I haven't seen Zootopia yet. I didn't see, I only think I saw partial Part 1, but you know, but I think there's still, you know, comparing it to go, you know, animals walking around like humans. Oh my God, two legged animals. No, I think they will still enjoy it. I did see I did see Zootopia Part 2 for the first Utopia. I thought the first Utopia was a superior movie, but this one was still entertaining enough. It's, well, I think I like. It so Speaking of. Screams Moving on from the screaming again department, none other than Neve Campbell has returned for Scream 7 and according to reports has received a $7,000,000 deal to return. Executive says Neve Gamble is to scream when Jamie Lee Curtis is to the original Halloween franchise. She is a big drawer, especially for older generations who grew up with the original films.

9:58 Now for those of you who don't care or weren't paying attention, Neve was absent from Scream 6 due to negotiations breaking down to the point where she went to social media to say that the company didn't respect her at the time, she said as. A woman. I have had to work extremely hard in my career to establish my value, especially when it comes to Scream. I felt the offer that was presented to me did not equate to the value I have brought to the franchise so. The studios moved on without her, and as reported on a previous episode of the show, Scream 6 had the biggest box office intake of the franchise since the original came out. So that's like, well, I guess we don't need her after all. But then the celebration was short lived as actresses Melissa Barrett was fired over social media messages. Co star General Ortega announced that she was no longer returning, citing, quote, scheduling conflicts. The director Christopher Landon left the project and the studio spent an additional $500,000 on script rewrites and without its two leads.

10:58 They came with their tail between their legs, then went back to Nevada to come back from Part 7. Experts say initially it was thought that the momentum from the two previous films could be lost. And there's a certainly a section of the audience that is upset about who is not coming back. But now the pendulum, the swinging and driving a lot of interest about how certain characters are coming back now, Jennifer, you remember, do you remember? We were talking about how Nevs her ground and she was like, I'm not going to come back because. And. Then the gangbusters. So well I guess she made a mistake, but obviously circumstances in karma made it that they had to go begging back to her because the 2 They lost their two leads for undisclosed reasoning.

11:38 So what are your thoughts on on that? You know, I always say they always come back. I had a company from two years ago I was doing live streaming. Not going to mention the company. It's pretty major. They've been in the news and they came back two weeks ago. They want me back live streaming. So it's like, you know, I think this is cool for her and they they they're coming back to me because they lost their big star. That's part of it. You know, I'm sure they lost some other people then Neve Campbell. I think this is pretty cool because Neve Campbell, at least in my opinion, was a big drawer. She did well and she seems like a nice person from people I've heard. So I don't know what I'm with everyone else, but it's pretty cool that she's back and she's getting, you know, respect here.

12:21 I I. Think it's really cool that she stood her ground and she proved to be right. The, you know, circumstances made it happen. But still, I thought that's kind of cool that, you know, she had no knowledge that they were. The other two were going to leave. That one was going to get in trouble for social media posts. And the other one was like, yeah, I'm out because of some nonsense. What? What type of trouble did this? She said something. About something about Gaza or Israel or something like that. Oh, so she. Commented on the conflict back. Back then and they were like, Nope, we want you out. They fired her and then, you know, Ortega was like, because they were really close on set and it's like, well, fire her, I'm not going to go. And that's so but she said scheduling conflicts. So that way she was out and then the director was but the but the director was getting hate mail because they thought that he was the one that fired the two leads and he's like, I'm out.

13:12 So they all came back to this, that is. Crazy and it goes to the show, I guess. Don't have an opinion on anything going on in the world because we get fired. That's. What that's what happened with the social media and it's, it's a very, it's a very big thing. Going on for a long long time the whole thing with what that the actress from Star Wars you know she just said a couple of things on on social media on her being mental thoughts and then what happened they. Fired her. And that was it. She. Sued him and they said but she just want to. Get a spin off. She won't, you know, and you know, and all these type of, you know, being said in the Star Wars lore and then that, you know, just you say a few thoughts about what's in your head and. Oh, yeah. But they. Did they did settle out of court because she sued him so she got an undisclosed amount of money and how she's fighting around the rousy.

13:58 So, you know, it's kind of weird how things happen if you stand your ground. Start her own production company? No, no, no, no, she should. So. Whatever. She wants now and say whatever she wants now, so moving. On from the I Guess it's not a trilogy after all department none other than Sony has quietly cancelled the planned yet to be titled 20 Years later sequel after both 28 Years Later and its sequel 28 years Later. The Bone Temple both underperformed at the box office 1 May $70.4 million on a $60 million budget and the other have just made 2125 point $1 million so far. Of note, those two movies were filmed back-to-back now Kelly I know you did see 28 years later and you wouldn't you told me how crazy that movie was.

14:45 I'm like, I don't like. It felt like they had like 20 different writers and 20 separate cubicle. They didn't know what they were doing. I mean, well, I'm going to say they didn't know what they were doing. It's just that it felt like a mash up of like different, you know, different cooks and, you know, just throwing their own ingredients in the pot and it, you know, from act one to act 2 to act three, it was definitely it was kind of different. And especially that last act, that third act, wow, that went like went to like bunkers. It went like sky high a little bit there and which led into the sequel. And I think that's probably was what the reason why it didn't it didn't do too well in that sequel, I'm assuming. So you didn't? See the 20 years I didn't. I didn't. I didn't box it because I'm like, I'm out.

15:29 You haven't seen it 28 years later. And the 28. Years Later is a sequel in and of itself to 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later. So I was on, I was on hesitant about going to see it because I want to make sure how it was connected to this movie. And based on what Kelly said, he's like, yeah, I wouldn't go see it. So I didn't see it. Everybody. Else is. Like no, now I want. To see it. But didn't they get rid of 28 weeks later? They kind of reckoned, I think they reckoned you're the one that's not. All right, Yeah, so. They kind of reckoned with this 28 years later. I mean 28 weeks. It doesn't even make any sense with this new addition to the to the lure. You know, there's like things that they put in there. They say that you know the those you know the people on the rampage zombie would would definitely die off and sorry spoiled spoilers from. 28 weeks. Later they said that, you know, after eventually in like 6 months to a year, they will just die off and die, you know, from starvation.

16:25 And look at that, that was 28 weeks later. Now we're 28 years later and they're still dealing with the same issues. And not only that, they have different categories of rage zombies, you know, they got different verges of them. So I mean, it's, it's, I mean, I liked it. The first act, you know, we, you know, again, like going back to the goat, you know, the father and son seeing the movie, this was more like a father and son first act. You know, he's teaching his son out in the woods how to survive. That second and third act threw me off, and I'm not going to throw any more sports after that. But the first act is good. If you see the first act, get up and. Walk, get up and walk. You're pretty much good after that. If you're curious, then go watch it. You don't have nothing else to do on a Sunday afternoon while you're doing your laundry, you know, background noise. Yeah, yeah.

17:12 Go ahead. Watch. It. The story just, you know, it just just wasn't up to par. You know, it's just not what I expected. It got very cartoony toward the Act three. It got very. I mean, I'm a. Guy who watches anime and that's. Very weird. Coming out of my mouth, you know, it just got very cartoon, you say? Cartoony. Like, not believable, Yeah. You know, it's just very animated. You know, it's like Nooney tunes anime. You know what I mean? I mean mark my life, but it came like kind of like a power Ranger movement. I'll say that, you know, but. But other than that, it's just yeah, just watching your own leaves. Yeah, If you want to watch it, watch it. That's why now I really. Want to see you now? I'm sold.

17:54 Good, bad movie. Night good popcorn? Why not? Speaking of movie theaters from the IT was only a matter of time department, none other than AMC theatres is now offering a new perk to its loyalty program members, Priority Seating executives say later this year, we will introduce preferred premium seating, which will block off and reserve the best seats in the house to our theaters to be accessed first by our only our A list and our Stub premier club members. That's the two VIP tiers within our stub program. At no added charge, we will assure the best seats in the auditorium health at first anyway for our best customers. We think it would be a great considerable consumer benefit for our most frequent guests who will notice and greatly appreciate further cementing their brand loyalty to AM C AM C is exceptionally well positioned to capitalize on a recovering box office.

18:47 And as I have said many times before, the not so secret formula to full box office recovery is that straightforward. We need more great movies from our studio partners. The program is expected to launch sometime this year, later this year. And of note, AMC did not define what qualifies as quote the best seats, but it is expected to be the center middle area of the theater. And for those who wants to know, the members are paying 2799 in New York and in California with the rest of the country paying 2599 for the service. Now, I have been saying this for years of how the movie theaters hate the movie companies that make the movies because they don't make the money off of that. They make money off of in the concession stand.

19:29 And the movie theaters themselves has always been trying to figure out ways to make more money on the same thing. And one of the things that they started to do, which was people having the advanced seating, they get the picture seat in the theater. Now, once that started to happen, I knew it was going to be only a matter of time before they start charging different prices from different seats. That's why I think everything is going. And based on this, it looks like that's exactly what's happening, because now they have priority seating in the movie theater that's more valuable. So now all of us. Sudden we're going to have certain seats that this seat over here is going to be $10, that seat over there $30 and the next to each other. I think it's a very slippery slope that we're on, and I think this is a bad move for theaters. How?

20:11 Much is this? Is it to be part of this stubs program? The stub program. Is 2799 in New York a month and California and then the rest of the country is paying 20 and then you also. Have to pay for the tickets and well. Yes, you pay for the monthly fee because that's how they get you and then you have to go buy your ticket and then because you buy, you're paying the monthly. Fee for for ticket for the seasoning you're getting. 1. Of the additional perks. Because you get. Like. Discounts on food or and you also get. Points, too, if you want to like, you know, if you get like, you know, free popcorn and soda with the points, things like that. Yeah, people love their points. You know what they're saying. You're different than like like buying tickets at a concert either, you know, I mean, like, I just looked the other day for the Stranger Things on Broadway, you know, I mean, and I'm like looking at the ticket prices, you know, all the way in the back, you're paying like like $108.00. But if you want to go in the middle or in the front, you're paying like 3 to $500 just to see them sweat on stage. You know, I mean, like just as basically the same thing. But I get the I get it, it's apples and oranges when it comes to it because you just go in there to see a flick and after you're seeing people live performance and I kind of get it.

21:18 But the planning how it is, they just trying to get into that same type of target when it comes to like, yeah, then we can make a little more money if we charge more for the center seats. And I kind of get that. But nowadays, I mean, like I, you know, back in the days I used to go to the movies like maybe every weekend everyone going to see a new movie. Hollywood is not, I mean, my just my point of view, just my point of view. You know, Hollywood is not producing the the the best movies lately. I'm not really feeling a lot of the stories that they going out there, you know, I mean, and you know, it just doesn't grasp me as much, you know, just, you know, I mean, I think they just had the movie The bride that came out and that flock. I think it did like they spent 90 million on on the production and then they only made 7 million and 13 million worldwide.

22:05 I'm saying this right? Sounds about right. So you know. So I mean, it's you know, this I'm not and I'm not even you know, I'm kind of worried about this whole MCU with the Doomsday and the Doctor Doom movie. I know they're spending a good mint. It has to be close to a billion dollars. So many how many actors they got in it? I think they got like 60 actors up in there. To my point right now, I don't think that movie. Is going to be any good, you know? I'm a little bit scared and what not I'm you know, again, you know, I I'm more toward like watching more of like international movies, you know, you know, and I like the animes and whatnot. I'm more geared toward that. If they have an anime in the movie theaters, I'll show support and pay for that. But I do know it's going to be a production and a story that I can actually be able to.

22:51 It's been a while since like what you know, since I'd be able to relate besides the goat I mentioned earlier and that was a cartoon. I mean alright, but anything like live action, I'm kind of like skeptical a little bit on the story. I will probably wait till it goes on stream, which you know nowadays it's going to be on stream the next three weeks to a month, you know what I mean? So I would rather wait because I'm paying for the prescriptions for the streaming where I'm going to spend like $100 to bring a whole family over and some for the food and then when I could just stay at home and wait for streaming when it comes on, you know what I mean? But on. Top of that, would you pay an additional fee for different seats in the movie theater? Would I?

23:33 I'm good sitting in the side out if it's cheaper. I mean, we're all seeing the same movie. We're. All seeing the same. Movie. Unless they're going. To bring you where you're seating. You can see different angles. It's a big screen unless. These seats become like first class on a plane. They bring you chicken front face. You know, maybe you get chicken front Daisy if you go on the. House which actually has the quote UN quote dining experience where they have like waiters come and bring you food and you don't have to get up and there's no place. They're trying to do. That. But still, if you're sitting on this seat and that seat somebody else has taken and this person next to you is $30 more.

24:18 Would you? Buy that extra seat. It just, it just, I think it's a bad precedence and I don't think it's going to help the movies. What was your suggestion to help movies massages? At your seats or in the theater? Drug dealing, if a drug dealing could be like, not bad drugs, not bad drugs. Well, well. Like, like, Sugar's a drug. Sugar. Sugar to me. So you have a sugar dealer. Yeah, the sugar Sugar's maybe more addictive than cocaine. They say Oreos are more addictive than cocaine. So lines of cocaine, lines of Oreos, get Oreos in there, get cocaine in there, get marijuana in there. Get GLP. Ones even though I'm against the GLP. Oreos. Sure. Whatever you know, whatever we'll get them in, get something that's going to entice maybe.

24:59 Chinese food is highly addictive, especially if that MSG keeps coming. Chinese food. Chinese food. Is highly addictive that MSG is highly addictive all right so. Would you pay extra for that? Honestly. Maybe if I can get a massage, I would go. I need, yeah, I need a massage. So if I could get a massage, yeah, actually I would more likely go for those. Side seats, but if I if all the movie starts and I see a center seat empty, you're going to run over there I'm running right over there it's. Like I remember many my last baseball game I ever went to years ago before they they tore down Chase Stadium. My friend had gotten tickets to go see a game. We were all the way up top and it was such a bad game and it wasn't didn't count. People started leaving.

25:42 So throughout the game we slowly moved all the way down. To the to. See the to see the game. So maybe that's how it's going to be. But then, but then it comes into a fact of enforcing it, like if a person pays for a higher price, they're going to like, oh, look, they moved over there, police. Mark. You and me both worked at a movie theater, All right, You know, those ushers not going to enforce that, you know, unless they have some kind of God complex, but they don't. They just want to do their job and go home. They they see somebody moving in that seat, they're not going to do anything unless supervisors are walking around that, which is why. The NYPD or a lot of them are going to be quitting with the way things are going, and they can come into the movie theaters and police seating and it'll be a lot safer.

26:27 They just want to do their. Job and go home come. On Give these NYPD a day off for the. Last years from the AI strikes back sort of department. None other than Eline Vander Velden, the quote creator of AI actress Kelly Norwood, has released a fully AI music video addressing the backlash of AI and her character. Music video starts off a free disclaimer. It reads the following production was made by 18 real humans, from producer designers to costume designers to prompters and editors and an actor. Eline says to those who have expressed anger over the creation of our AI character Tilly Norwood, she is not a replacement for human beings, but a creative work, a piece of art. Like many forms of art before her, she sparks conversation and that in and of itself shows the power of creativity. I see AI as not a replacement for people, but as a new tool and you paint for us.

27:24 Just as animation, puppetry or CGI, opening fresh possibilities without taking away from acting, AI offers another way to imagine and build stories. I'm an actor myself and nursing, certainly not an AI character, can take the way the craft of joy of the human performance SAG, which is the screen actor girl, says. To be clear, Tilly Norwood is not an actor, is a character generated by a computer program that was trained on the work of countless professional performers without the permission or compensation. It has no life experience to draw from, no emotion. And from what we've seen so far, audiences aren't interested in watching a computer generated content unearthed from human experience. Now I've seen the video, it is as generic as possibly can be. I mean, I've seen AI stuff and I think I'm able to see more. I can tell more.

28:11 That's AI because before you couldn't tell from me, but I'm like, yeah, that's AI. Yeah, that's AI. It wasn't any good. I I actually didn't see the entire video. I was like, I had enough of this, but it's crazy that they're trying to force this thing, but by saying it's not what it is because what is actually, they're saying, oh, it's not replacing anybody. It's not replacing jobs, it's not doing this. But that's what happens with all the technology. When they introduced CGI, it replaced the people making the the little figurines and stuff from movies. I think it's a very interesting aspect that they went this far to make this character and then they made a music video about it. I think it's once again a bad idea of how to push this character forward. Jen, since you are a filmmaker, yeah.

28:51 And you have said that you would use AI and under circumstances. Under circumstances. Think about it, you have actors when you have actors. I just was producing a film at my house February 25th. I they're still cleaning up today. There's ten shoot days, $500 a day. Whatever, There you go. There's a lot of info I can share. I don't know, one day there's maybe 15 people in the house. 5 girls, including me, had to be choreographed for a dance scene. So that's five personalities. 5 girls have to decide for lunch. One girl took like 10 minutes to figure out what she wants for lunch. For that alone, she should be fired. No, but but I mean, you know, you have to deal with all the difficulties of different actors. And I think it's more interesting, let's say, just talking about the dance scene of the five girls, right? That's that was one shoot day.

29:34 I think as a viewer, it would be more interesting to see real people mess up the dance moves, including me. I messed up. You know, we learned it right before. But I'm trying to think if there are any actors in this film that it would be we could just replace them with AI. OK. There was a concert scene. So in the concert scene, they had all these people who volunteered their time. Nobody was paid. I'm not the director. I didn't, you know, whatever. But those people were, they wanted to be in it. So they came to this, this Lucky 13 bar and they volunteered their time for like 5 hours and they danced in the club scene. But no offense to anyone. We could have probably replaced them with an AI crowd because and then these people could have done something else with their five hours and not come to Bushwick, Brooklyn and not share the bathroom. All you know, for one person and not gotten in the way of me doing makeup of the star who can't really be replaced by AII, don't think.

30:30 But yeah, it's a crowd of people. They're barely in frame. Why do we need them there? No one's getting paid. Some people were enjoying themselves. I'm sure a lot of them were, and it was gratifying on some level. So yeah, why? Why do we need? Why do we need to waste everyone's time to come to come to Brookly in the snow in a freaking Blizzard? Right. Just replace them with AI. It's not like they're getting paid anyway. Tell me what are your thoughts? Well, just just hearing that, I just remind that reminded me of when Will Smith was doing was doing like a music video and he had an audience concert. Yeah, yeah, AI crowd and he got caught out there 'cause it was a couple words that was not making sense. It was kind of a very frivial Scrabble and a few mis shaping faces in the audience or whatever. He blames his team.

31:15 It was like. A. Year and. 1/2 ago, yeah, he was showing himself off. He's on stage, whatever. But he had an AI audience. There was no one really there. It was just him on stage. But but a Long story short, it's going to be a while till AI gets to the point where you know where I mean. Nowadays you can still kind of tell a little bit, but it's I see some videos on my on my feed on on like social media and some of those things, you know, like I mentioned even earlier, which sometimes Hollywood not grasp me on some of the stories cat grasp me a little bit like like I just I saw a short like if what if McDonald's worker went to ancient Egypt and started on McDonald's there. I mean, it was a a very simple storyline, but it was all done by AI and even I and even got me a little interested. That how you know, you know, like you know, the the Roman guards and all that kind of stuff. Oh, no, sorry, ancient Egypt, you know, the Pharaoh would invite him over and make McDonald's and those kind of thing.

32:16 Everybody and then everybody get diabetes anyway. But, but Long story short, I'm an artist. I know there's a lot of artists, people in my community that's not happy with AI. And I get the idea of, you know, being replaced. I kind of get it. You know, I'm also a graphic designer as well. And this just gives it, you know, people, ordinary normies, unless we call them, you know, that, you know, the opportunity to become artists, to be, you know, by utilizing AI. The only thing is that, you know, they're afraid being replaced by AI, but I look at it more as a tool really, to be honest. I I dibble dabble a little bit of AI myself here and there. Not for all my work and whatnot. I just trying to get used to the fact that this is going to happen regardless. And I'm not going to try to I'm not going to try to fall back. You know, I'm going to move forward and go along with the times.

33:04 You know, like you mentioned before, you know, there's a lot of things that came up, you know, like with the animations and the CGI, all those kind of things replace. I'm not going to fall back and, and, and, and still I want to be the person who has a blow torch and burn. So I just want to keep up with it. I'm not going to you got it. I'm not going to use it fully to my advantage. I just want to have it where I know that I can utilize it to certain things like references or just help me out with certain designs and layouts. I think, you know, you know, what, what's really going to happen is that it's going to get to a point where job wise, and I tell my, my, my son and I'm going to tell my other son as he get old enough to like, I tell them, like, look, eventually there's got to be a lot of jobs. That's all that's going to be limited. You know, I mean, you know, it's a lot of companies going to go toward, you know, you ever see it? You know, at McDonald's, you got the self checked kiosks and those kind of things.

33:57 You got to get into a few job opportunities where it's, you know, you got to get into math, science, engineering, and also, you know, get into some kind of like coding, you know, I mean, so you can get into those kind of workmanship because things are going to get very, very hard. A lot of jobs are going to be shut down and if you don't, if you don't get yourself in those kind of things, or at least medical or law, a lot of those things are going to be cut down. It's going to be very limited for you to get find any type of work out there. You know, even as unfortunate, I'll say even as an actor as well. I mean, you know, there's a lot of AI things I see where people are using their faces. I think it's going to get to a point where you know, they'll probably pay actors families money every time we use, can we use?

34:42 Your likeness can. We have permission to like so I mean, look, aim the guy who does Darth Vader's voice, you know, they pay Angel Joe, They, they, they paid the family a good mint. They, you know, they got a good inheritance to use that voice for whatever they want to do in Disney. So I mean, it's just, it's just, you know, it's, it's taking its time, but it's it's trickling slowly. We can do it fully now. But we do know that, you know, there's got to be Rage Against machine that we just go hunk over there. But I'm sorry, I didn't mean to tap the table, but but you know, but you have to keep going and trying to perfect yourself more to adapt to this new future that's ahead of us. Yes, definitely, they're saying. I I heard in a couple sources they're saying last week, we have 18 months before AI shifts things to the point where like you're seeing people you wouldn't normally expect in the last 20 years lose their jobs and be homeless. I will see what happens.

35:37 The one thing I want to say. Before we take our commercial break, is that with AI, the biggest issue I believe is because they're not being compensated for and it's stealing other people's work, right? That's the problem. So if AI was paying whatever they needed to pay, everything would be fine. Everything would be great. Hey, we're going to use your stuff, get some money, we're going to make AAI thing out of it. You get your, you get your compensation. But the problem is the consumers don't care. And the consumers also are like, I don't have to pay anybody. That's the point of having AI. So that's the two. But how will you know who to pay? I mean, it's, it's basically the whole right chicken soup. Combination of. It's where they're. Getting it from.

36:17 So you have to pay wherever they're getting. Yeah. So if you're on, you know, Bob's website. Oh, I'm getting pulling from Bob's website. That's how always the case. Sometimes it's just I know stuff. That's online and it's just, it's free stuff. Online, like piracy, it's kind of one of those things. Yeah. So that is different news. We're going to take a quick break in front of a live city audience. Yeah. We'll be right back with more. It came from the radio. Hi, You've heard my voice. Open and close the show now. We want to hear your voice. If you have a business or product, you can record a commercial here. We offer 30 and 62nd spots. For more information, contact Mark at mfc_studios@hotmail.com hey.

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38:32 Thank you for having me. So as I mentioned. We've been doing. Our this is our 102nd live show. So that means we're over 8 years doing a live show at the library. You're welcome, Mark. Yeah. Thank you. And you've been? Having the M con for 16 years right? If I yes this will be a 66 year. I've only missed the 1st. M Con. I was not here for the very first one. That's right. And Jen, you've been here for a couple of M Con, right? Yeah, since Jen is. I guess for the. Three of us, the newest person to the environment. What are your thoughts of a convention in a library? What did you think when you first came here? I thought it was really fun. I think people we're really excited to be here and the vibe was really positive and happy and they had very creative costumes. That was really cool.

39:12 And I went up to a bunch of people. I took their picture and they were all excited. A lot of different art, including comic books and actual novel type or fiction books and different, I guess you call them like different creations different like statue type figurines. It was just a, it was really a day of creation, I would say. And I don't know, it was really cool to see it mostly kids as they were dressed up, but there were some adults dressed up. And it was, it was fun and it was, it was actually a lot more enjoyable than a really big Comic Con. I'm not going to say the name, but there's a very big one. But I I would rather go to this one. No offense to any big comic cons, just appreciate you saying that.

39:53 It is a lot more enjoyable. You could. Park here, it was easy. There were bathrooms. Don't bumped into me. There aren't. What offense did you go to that? Sometimes you got to wait. Online, some of the big ones and like people bumping into you and it's just like you feel like you're in a sardine can and that's not fun This is like I can move my arms around, I can breathe, I can breathe, I can breathe. I don't feel uncomfortable and I feel safe. So that's my take on it. So Kelly was. That the goal we have a person coming in that's that's her take person was from the outside of the community that's. Was that your? Goal. That's a small slice of the. Pie When it comes to the goal. The main goal was really when it this idea came to me back in 2011, I used to run an anime club here at the library.

40:39 I was the they used to call me the Pied Piper. And the reason is because I would have 30 plus teenagers in the YA room on a Wednesday night. All right, you know, they 1, you know, one of the largest teen programs, you know, which it was just mainly just us hanging out in the YA room discussing anime mangas. So, you know, it's it was so it clearly had like a demographic target demographic for what we were looking for. They say that, you know, since there's so much interest showing into this kind of pop culture phenomena. They asked me, you know, of course, I used to go to New York Comic Con and different other conventions. They asked, they asked me, how would you like to run a convention here at the library? You know, a two of my thumbs scratch my head, start saying love.

41:24 And then I said, all right, let's go for it. Let's do it. Obviously, we started small. It was a one day event. We tried it out. We had, you know, like a variety of artists, well, a small amount of artists, not as large as it is now. And then we had cosplay contests and we had some panels and some workshops, things of that nature. Very educational learning every day at the East Meadow Public Library. Indeed. And so if since it was such a great success, we decided to expand and do the two day event the next year for the second one, that's the one I believe you came on to mark. And then we invited a lot more people to come in, you know, a lot more guests, more people from the cosplay community, more people that's in the pop culture community, so they can network and discuss things with other people who they cannot reach.

42:13 You know, it mainly was something to give to the community or our target audience to look forward to. You know, they were really into the into the anime and it was something that they could like at least branch out or at least be able to learn how they can get into this kind of community, which, you know, you had to go to the city back in the days, you had to go all the way to the city to get these kind of things to, to be able to enjoy. But now we bring it here and it gotten so huge. I mean, it got to a point where during our peak years, you know, back in say 2018, 20/16/2018, it got to a point where we got, we brought in a total of 4800 people into the library here during those moments got so much Mark, you already know, we actually had to rent a tent, the lawn area outside by Front St. Basically, we took over every nook and cranny of the library. I mean, you know, we actually had performances in the middle of the library for the front desk as you checking out a book or checking in, you see somebody on stage dancing it. It was, it was a lot of fun.

43:20 Maybe for the staff, maybe not, but but but we all still enjoy it and I do I I kid. But you know, I do have to give it up to the admins and staff and everybody else there who backed me doing such a crazy event here at the library. We're the only library to my knowledge now on Long Island that does a 2 day event. Most libraries which they have their own library convention, they'll probably either do a half a day to a full day event. We're the only one that do 2 days. It used to be 2 1/2. Kobe used to do a pre party on Friday nights. That got a little bit too much for me. I stopped that after after 2019, I stopped doing that pre.

44:00 Yeah, 2 is 2 is enough. 3 is really long, yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, you. Know so you said you mentioned a lot of that you see adults they're dressed up as whatnot. You know it's funny is that every M con to me always seems like either like family reunion to me in a way, because a lot of the kids that I you know, I started with that especially for my anime manga club or even just regular followers. I see them grow up every year and and they still come through to the event and they enjoy the event they look forward to the event. I love to see them you know they are now they got they look like grown people grown adults. It's like, you know, it makes this, it makes Uncle Kell very happy. And I ask them how they're doing. They you know, they tell me they're in college now or, or they're beyond college.

44:45 They're looking into their careers already. And I love to see them graduate outside of the anime club where they actually she's starting a new life and things of that nature. And then I also love seeing the new kids, the new foundation coming in and just growing the community a lot more into the M Con Yeah, it's fun. And then there's. A music concert on the 26th. Eternal Hoshi. Yes. What is that? What's this music? Well, yeah. I I. Found them on on my on my Instagram and and they intrigued me and I've been watching them for the for at least two years now and I'm trying to figure out when would be a good time to invite them over. They're basically if you're they're into anime and you know, in and also if you're into like rock music and also well, they, they do a nice good fusion of that. They they play a lot of anime intro music, things like that. If you're, you know, one of your favorite animes, you know the intros, they know that they come in, they get you gasp up and ready and pumped to see the next latest episode on one punch man. That's an example.

45:45 So they'll play those kind of intros and also a couple of original songs that they also play as well. You know, they see them, they're they're very friendly, they're very easy to talk to. And not only that, they're going to be performing here on Sunday, they're going to be here Sunday to do a meet and greet and whatnot and meet the fans or make new ones here with us. So I think everybody will enjoy themselves. That's Sunday, April 26th. At 3:00 PM in the concert, that's a charge for the seating in the auditorium. I'm going to, I'm going to charge. The center right. Exactly. Yeah. But no, you know everything. Is free. The best part about M Con is free a lot of always, you know, I still, I still get calls asking how much it is to come to the it's at the Public Library. We're not going to charge.

46:30 We're nonprofit, you know, we're here for the, you know, again, I, I, I'm tired of sounding like a broken record, but we are here for the community. We're a station hub site for the community. We're a lot of things not besides M Con. We bring in a lot of programs that you mentioned earlier to help out and also give activities, great activities, so people can enjoy themselves here at at at this public building here. But yeah, so it's going to be like 2 days. We're going to have a variety and artists who get to come in and network. We're having a few authors coming in, I believe. Carl, what's his name? Yeah. He's going to be here. He's going to be promoting his comic book here. He's also a guest here and came from the radio, and he also was one of the producers to MTV Celebrity Deathmatch.

47:16 All right? I don't know. Anyone remember I seen that who watched MTV back in the days? Anyone watch MTV? All right, All right. You know and you remember. Liquid Television. All that, I don't know if you remember the claymation, probably, you're probably too young for that, but they did have a claymation episodes of seven deathmatch where they celebrities and fight it off, whatever. So he's going to be here. Yeah. And then we're going to have like a couple. Of also our authors like Francis Bonet, he does illustrations and stories for Archie comic books. So you know, if you're into Archie, I know, I mean, who's not into Riverdale? Come on now, Jughead and Archie and all that. So, you know, I think a lot of people would enjoy seeing him.

47:58 He does very well known and he's a friendly guy to talk to. You know, you come in and you go ask him questions, he'll definitely answer them with no problems and what not. And not only ever having a huge variety of artists coming in with different type of artworks, different types of like merchandising, things like that, It's, it's going to be almost fun. That's right. And it wanted. To Abby. She's from the Sesame Street. Yeah, we're going to be having Leslie. Kyra Rudolph. She's going to be here. I met her at another convention, believe it or not, Kids Comic Con in the Bronx. You know, she had her table right next to me. Very warm for any woman. I talk to her and I say I got to have you come to the library even if it's not for M Con, I think you'll be great just to have a great addition to come in and maybe for our children's programs or anything like that.

48:49 She's going to be here and now only that she's going to be with you, Mark, at one of our first panels, that of the day on Saturday on April 25th at 12:00. You're going to be doing a. It came from the radio Q&A with her. I am. Yeah. So you. Know, and she's going to be out here. And she's going to be talking about her foundation. She does a lot of non charity and non profit work for cancer kids, things like that too. So she going to be promoting that and you know, we get to meet her and what was it? I want her puppets here too as well. So she going to be here and magician mentalist. Robin Channing. He does like magic tricks, My reading. Very interesting. Yeah. We're having so much. Things going on and let me just go down the list here, if you don't mind here.

49:32 So basically if you're into cosplay, we're going to have Rizuki cosplay who've been, I've been having her as a fan favorite every year. I think since it has to be since like 2014, if not longer. She going to be doing a cosplay teaching people how to join the cosplay community and about clothing and costuming and what not. That's going to be on April 25th at 1:00 right after your panel there, Mark, she going to be downstairs in the makerspace room. And then as you mentioned, at 1:30 in the big huge community room, we're going to be having Robin Channing. He's the mentalist and mind vendor. Another guest of Mark Torres here at They came from the room. I wonder where I get all from?

50:12 Yeah, so I mean, if you like magic. Tricks and and things that make it go ooh and ah and and wondering how he bent that spoon with his mind. I would recommend definitely coming in that program. I definitely guarantee it's going to be a, should I say it, a head banger. So, you know, it's definitely going to be a good program. He always pretty much fills up the room every time he comes in. And it's not his first rodeo with us. And he's going to be coming in I believe at 1:30 like I mentioned. And then if you're still in the cosplay and we're going to have a huge popular cosplay, when I met this man back in Eternal Con a few years back, I said to him, you're going to do things. You're going to do big, huge things. And I see that his name is Sir Julius.

50:53 He's going to be doing a cosplay panel at 2:15. He uses, he does a lot of 3D art where he makes his cosplay accessories along with his costumes. And as you see that yeah, he has like that big huge sword. He made that with a 3D printer. Blue so. Yeah, so he's going to. Be here and he now he's like traveling all over. He's like heard all around the world and their Mama. He's like, been to internationally known and to like going to Japan and Tokyo, all these other places doing judging and showing his work. And yeah, so I knew he was going to go and be really huge. So I know he definitely had to grab him.

51:34 And at 3:00, we're going to have our Kids Junior cosplay contest. Kids can come in from 7:00 to 11:00, show off their costumes, see who can be #1 best in costume. And not only that, we're going to have Leslie the Abbey from Sesame Street. She going to be our guest judge, you know, for that contest. We're going to have a nice little K pop Demon Hunter little sing along going on with that show. Everything K pop come through for that. That's going to be at 3:00. And then we're going to end the day with that and then celebrate everything else going on during that day at the library. And after that, on Sunday on the 26th, you get to meet Brimstone.

52:16 Everybody loves Brimstone. I don't think he's mentioned it to there, but he is mentioning the News Letter. He's a very well known actor and also wrestler, believe it or not. And he also does some voice acting and you know he's going to be here both days, believe it or not. Sorry, that's just Sunday. Both days they get to meet Will Brimstone. That's going to be on Sunday on the the 26th, April 26th. And then also we're going to have the concert that you mentioned Eternal Hoshi. That's going to be at 3:00. And we're going to have our cosplay contest going on at the ending of that day where you know, we're going to do the judging. And then we're going to figure out who is the number one best in show for teen for teen teens.

53:00 That's going to be from 17 to no, no, excuse me, yes, thank you. From 12 to 17. And then we're going to figure out who best in the show for young adults 18 plus. You mentioned free, which is. A very important thing, yes. Free. Most of the most of the conventions are a business. Yes. Yeah. How do you manage to run a very decent convention that's free? Where? How do you get the money? Where? Where do you make the stand for grants? Sponsorships, we also have like basically a very known profit that we can spend for those things, but mostly it's grants. So does that make? It easier or more difficult to make the convention knowing that there's no bottom line to it. Well, if you if you want the.

53:45 Big leagues if you want like people coming traveling from Hollywood, Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a trouble, it's a problem with it. Well, you know, but as long as you get the the audience, what they what they need and what they want is what they want is basically to enjoy themselves. What they need is to network with people that's in the community that they want to be involved in. So I try to offer that as best as possible. I cannot always get that famous popular voice actor or that famous popular actor himself. So that's sometimes it's a very challenging situation. But we do bring in, in the past, you know, a lot of people that's in the industry like Brittany Lauder from JoJo Bizarro, Quinn Flynn and Michelle Knox from Pok��mon. So we had a, a decent amount of voice actors come through here that's in the industry.

54:33 People get the meet and greet and stuff like that nature. So I don't find this, it's, it's challenging, but it's just as long as you with the you work within the budget and you give the people what they want and as long as everyone leaves with smiles and no one injured and hurt, I think it's a success for me. That's what I tell a lot of people. I have a lot of people that come to me who start their own convention at libraries. I'm actually going to be partaking in a library panel, believe or not, starting your own convention at libraries with a few other people from other libraries. So they teach other library how to make their own. And I always tell them, don't look at the numbers, especially if this your first year, especially if this your first year, don't look at the numbers. Just look at how many smiles are leaving or coming in and they're saying thank you and they feel you get gratitude and then no one's hurt.

55:23 That's a that's a successful day and people definitely look happy. To be there, yes, yes, it's great vibes. You have a good a good amount of followers and I. Appreciate you all and I always tell them none of this will be possible your participation so since the convention is free. You don't have anything to raffle away for the the show. All right, we do have two free tickets to the Long Island Trading Card Game show. It's a 2 day show in Nassau Coliseum. We want to thank the LITCG guys for giving us 2 passes and since you are our guest Kelly, you get to I get to keep the tickets It's. A. Good show you. Guys would really. Enjoy it all. Right. We got that one all right, 3763767. 2. 6726 we have a sentence. All right, there you go.

56:11 We'll take care of you. After the end of. This show, congratulations. We're almost out of time. So Kelly, final thoughts. Final thoughts. Thank you. For allowing me to promote and I'm and I'm very honored to be the one of two guests. I have to say, you know, you know, I when I, when I was getting, when I grew up, Yeah. I'm still growing. You know, I never pictured myself. I'm doing things like this, you know, I'm starting my own convention, being an artist. I always wanted to be an artist when I was a kid. But I, you know, I'm, you know, I feel happy that, you know, doing what you love, you know, a step most one of the most blessed things in life, you know, is when you do things that you love and you feel comfortable about yourself and love what you're doing.

56:57 You know, besides, you know, friends and family and everything else. But doing what you love is the most blessed full thing in life. And I would always will tell people, you know, do what you love doing, you know, do what your dream is because life will be so much happier and less stressful for you blood, you know, blood pressure wise if you just go for the stars and do what you do. Exactly. Pretty much same. Thoughts. But. I kind of cut out socializing, like I very rarely do it outside of work. Stuff like 2023 and that, just doing that, it's a temporary, you know, sacrifice. I'm going to go back to that eventually has allowed me at least in the last few months to like do what I love doing and I can do what he's talking about because of that sacrifice to get there and not hanging out and not really seeing friends.

57:49 Well, with AI you don't have to. Socialize anymore? Yeah, right. No, I want to go. Back to you got to have communities and all that, but you have AI community, yeah. You're right, you're right. So my final thought is. This thank you, Kelly, for not only having the convention, but also taking care of us all the easiest for our live show and it's a really good event. I really recommend it. And as I've been telling you for years, the fact that it's a free convention, it puts a lot of convinced that you pay to to shame. It does. And it's a really. Great way to. Bring the community together and I hope for much continuous sex and you keep on doing this for many years to come. People like it. So that is it. For our show, for this. Week. We'll see you next time on this radio station. If you miss any part of the show, go to our website www.akmforyou.com.

58:35 The archives will be up in a week or so. Our next live convention in front of a live studio audience will be on 103rd show on April 8th and we will have Kristen Gutnick. She has a author, she has her own comics. She'll be giving away a raffle of that and we'll be giving away 2 passes to the Cradle Con. So that is it and we'll see you all guys next time all. Right, you have been listening to It Came from the radio with Mark Torres. The views of the show's hosts and guests did not necessarily reflect that of the management, owners or staff of the. Station, we now return you to your earthly scheduled broadcast.