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0:44 This is your host Mark Torres speaking with me. In the studio. We have filmmaker Lee Kalinski. Hey, what's happening? And we have Mr. El Grandito Hassan Godwin on the phone. So on this week's show is my notes. There's my notes. There it is. El Man, Jenny Fell the interviews filmmaker Gabe symbolista. But before we do any of that, let's take it away. The news Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo. You know, we've only been doing this for 24 years. You know, never, never a dull moment. Then she's just brought to you in part by fine folks at sci-fi dot radio.

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2:10 Also on it came from the radio website is my book designated look about two warring alien races fighting over a newly discovered power source. The war finds this week planet Earth and as a result some humans gain abilities. Issue 1 is on sale right now and issue 2 should be coming out in April, so fingers crossed for that. Why don't you know? Well, it's the universe. May. May, you know, Was it? What did you just say, Hassan, barring any instances. Was that you? Yeah. Yes, OK, barring any instances. The book will come out it's. Positive vibes. It'll be out, yes. It will be out in April, Yeah. So let's see. We'll start off with the sad news. Let's see we got for the sad news. Oh. There'll be plenty.

2:52 Actually, we only have two business. Sad news we have actor Robert Reed Carradine died recently from suicide. And while Robert was in a slew of movies and TV shows, he is perhaps best known for his role of Sam McGuire, the father on the series Lizzie McGuire, which ran for 65 episodes. And of course, Lewis and the Revenge of the Nerds, as well as his equals part 2-3 and four. He was 71 years old. Lee, I know you were a fan of his, right? Yeah, I did like his stuff. I mean, well, one of my favorite movies is the Long Riders with him because they had like a bunch of brothers in it, right? So it was the Carradines, it was the Keeches, right? And and the quaits actually, so right, they were all in the Jesse James gang and it was kind of like this cool old Western.

3:34 So I like that. I like that. I mean revenge, the nerds, I know everybody loves whatever, but the Long Riders for me was like for, for what I wanted to watch, you know, and see. And you met him? Right. Yeah. So I met him. I was at the Aviation Museum. I forgot. Which I was the cradle con. The cradle con, right? Yeah. So I met him there, which was actually cool and, and his daughter, which was they, they were nice, You know, they were, he was trying to get out. That was the funny part. He was like, it's over. I got to get out of here. I got to make a plane. I'll just sign this and say, hey, what's up for like 2 seconds, but I got to go. There was a. Picture of Harrison Ford and he signed it and I was like, I just got to move on. Right. Keep moving, right? Get off my plane, you know. Son, were you a fan of Robert's work? I didn't realize he committed suicide, unfortunately. Yeah, of course.

4:20 I'm, I'm unlikely. I'm, I'm, I know. I'm strictly from Revenge of the Nerds and you know, I, I mean, there was a memorable performance of that. I've seen him in other things, but I mean, I know him specific. I every time I saw him from something else I said that's what ends in the nerd cast. So he was an escape from LA. He had like 1 scene and. He got like, Oh my goodness, yeah, yeah, he did. Oh, my God. OK. And and and and escape from LA. Yes. Escape from LA. There you go. So he was 71 years old. Moving on for the second and last bit of sad news, actress Lauren and Chaplin also died recently.

5:03 As of this recording, no cause of death has been announced. Lauren was perhaps best known as Kathy Anderson, nicknamed Kitten, who was the youngest child for nine of nine hundred 196 episodes of the TV series Followers Knows Best, which ran from 1954 to 1960. She was 80 years old. I've never seen Followers Know the Best, but I know it existed. You son, you know follows best. Yes. No. Bill, Bill, because it's just way before my time. Thank you for not knowing that. That's before my time, but we have. Shows that were before your time. I Love Lucy honeymooners. Come on man. I know, I know. But I'm, I've chosen to take it personally. But no, I don't.

5:44 I've never seen her, you know, performances. But it's too bad. It's sad that she's gone. Hassan, not Hassan Lee. Yeah, no, I mean, I knew of the show, I just didn't know what. Else did you ever watch it or? I mean if I started to rerun maybe? I don't know. Oh yeah. That. Was a beautiful time mark. So. Unfortunately. Unfortunately. Yeah. He was 80 years old. And that is it for the sad news. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back with more. You came up on the radio. Hi, you've heard my voice. Open and close the show. Now we want to hear your voice. You have a business or product. You can record a commercial here.

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9:34 And Mr. Hassan Godwin on the phone. So as we always do, we we're done with the sad news. For now, we're doing from the not as sad news ready from the that's a lot of nuts department. The new animated film Goat, which came in at the number two spot last week, has taken the number one a spot in domestic ox office, pulling in an additional $16.8 million in ticket sales and its second week of release being out with the film Wuthering Heights, which came in at #2 spot, making an additional $14 million also in its second week of release. For those of you keeping track, Avatar is still the highest gross in film of this year with $399.5 million, followed by Zoopia 2 with $423.9 million.

10:14 Now, as I've been mentioning since the beginning of the year, because both of those movies came out last year, the numbers are slightly Askew. And this year Avatar has made $149.2 million. Zootopia has raked in $86 million. And of note, apparently me, I have been mistaken for this entire year, as I mentioned multiple times on this show that The House made, which is the third highest grossing film of this year so far, came out this year. But in fact it came out also last year. So the top three movies of this year all came out last year. Yeah, did. You see any of them? Well done, Martin Lee. Did you see any? Of them I saw Avatar. You saw Avatar? Yeah, last year, right? Yeah, I didn't see the other ones.

10:55 Utopian house, I guess. Housemate. Housemate. No, I don't even know what Housemate is. That's the Amanda Seyfried Sidney Sweeney movie. Oh yeah, that's that's beyond my demographic. No. I. Actually, I saw it and I thought it was pretty darn good. It was it. It fell in the lines. I've been saying this many times. It fell along the lines of The Barbarian where you're thinking it's one movie really, and you're watching it and it's not that type of movie at all. It has a little twist and another twist and you're like, oh, it's a completely different movie, all right. So if you go back and see it again, which I intend to now that I know the twists and everything, I will see it from a different perspective. Is it in the theaters still? It should still be in the theaters. Yeah, yeah, still still be in the theaters. Song, have you seen? I know you saw Avatar, right? Yes, I did and. Knows Zootopia.

11:36 Still knows Zootopia. Knows Zootopia. And housemaid. Heck no. Heck no. Heck no. Strange that you've seen it, but okay, with all the other movies around to be able to be seen that we that we speak up on a regular basis. Somehow you've seen house made of all of them. Weird. What could it have been? It had some have been had certain things that I felt I needed to watch certain. Elements. Four of them. Specifically. Yes. So that was. That. Now I have to watch the trailer for that one so. Good. Moving on from the a lot of nuts department recently at an auction, the Pokémon Pikachu illustrator card owned by wrestler slash YouTube Logan Paul has sold for a Guinness Book of world record-breaking.

12:32 When I want to make a guess, Lee guess how much a Pokémon card sold for. Oh. Man World. Record-breaking. 20 million. 20 million, Hassan, what do you think? 50 million. 50 million, well, I feel bad. It's only $16,492,000. Well, that's your fault. For me it's such a big deal of. A. Billion card record-breaking 16,000,000 Still pretty bad, but fine. It could have been anything. We live in a terribly crazy world. Fine, Auctioneer says this is a historic night, and for not only the Pokémon community, but a historic night for the entire collectible community. We just keep showing there are no barriers. These things that we all love and appreciate keep going up and keep setting records, keeping a keep bringing people together, I do not think.

13:21 Although we just made 16,000,000, how cool is that? So it was an auction, so they probably get like, what, 20% of the of the deal and they get like a buyer's fee. So they made a couple. 1,000,020% to 16,000,000 is pretty pretty darn decent. For just putting a card on auction, a card, one card that's. Crazy one. Card, yeah. Do I have that card in my house? I don't know. You do have Pokémon cards, right? My son does well. You do buy osmosis that your. Son has. Right, exactly. You want everything but. Someone didn't just grab all those cards. You'll thank me later. Son. Right. Exactly. What was he doing with a card that you sold for $16 million? I would do a lot, you know.

14:03 Or what would you do for what would you do if you bought a card for $16 million? Yeah. I mean, it's got to be. Is it cool looking at least? I don't know. All right, OK. I mean, frame it. I don't know. I took it in a vault. I would think it's already framed. Yeah, I guess it's it can't be a loose car. It's got to be encapsulated in a little sealed thing, right? Oh, it's a graded 9.8. What do you think of some? What are? What are your thoughts on that? Which question what would I do with the 16 million or would I do with a card? What would you do with a card that was worth $16,000,000? And don't say I sold it. You were you were ready for that and I was ready for you being. I would fold it into a little paper plane if they were to cross the the living room, because if I was able to spend 16 billion on it, that means I've got a billion dollars on on hand if I if I was going to do that the. Most expensive stamp and mail it right? Exactly.

15:01 Exactly. All right, so moving on. Ready, Ryan from the. Department, None other than that's a good lead up. None other than William Shatner has announced he is planning to release a heavy metal album.

15:48 Shatner says. I have explored space. I have explored time. Now I explore distortion 35 metal virtuosis, thunderous guitars, chaos with purpose, honest intensity, unapologetic. Exploration at 94.1 does not slow down. One turns the volume up. So prepare yourselves. We're about to boldly head bang where no one has head bang before. Stay tuned. The metal voyage begins this year. We've had him on the show. I've met him a few times, but you're 94. Like we'll see. He's done everything.

16:29 Why not make a heavy metal? Yeah, why not do something fun? Would you purchase and or listen to the heavy metal? I mean, is it going to be like his old stuff in a way, like his like spoken word kind of music where it's like heavy metal music behind his spoken word? Because that would be kind of funny. I would like listen to it just for a second, see what it's. Like so it's supposed to have metal samples that are like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden? Do you just priest and as well as quote a few originals forged in the same cosmic fire? Hassan, you're a musician. What do you think of all that? He did a song, yeah, that I heard years ago called Common. He didn't hear it.

17:10 It was it was original song from I think it was the Kinks who originally did it, but it was called common people and it it kind of blew my mind. I thought it was strangely great. Yeah. You know, so I don't, I wouldn't put it past him to to do something in May. But he's 95 years old. So I mean, at this point, if he wanted to do a swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated, I'd say let him do it. He let him do it, Yeah. He's one of, we've talked about this many times, like he's like one of the last celebrities out there who just like he's done it all. He's just, he's a master of his crap.

17:51 He's like the guy that is multi generational cross platforms. Everybody knows who he is from something. Some may know him from Star Trek, some may know him as the Priceline guy, 'cause I remember when he was on our show, I was telling all my friends we got William Shatner on the show and they go who like the younger kids. And I was like the Priceline guy, Like, oh, the Priceline guy, He's on your show. Or when he was on Boston Legal, like he's done so much. Yeah. He's done plenty of some. It's incredible. I guess like every decade he does something for the most part. I mean it goes to space for like 2 seconds for real, you know? And is our business. I do want to see him perform it though. That is the thing I want to see him on, Say I.

18:31 Don't, boy. I don't. Know about that? If if he's fake playing what the people behind him, I think it'll be just a spectacle to see. I feel like it's him, a microphone and Metallica behind him. That's. Kind of what it. Is I'd rather not see that. I'd rather hear it than see it because that could be, that could go both ways, you know, and we don't want to humiliate him at the at the tail end of his career. We just, you know, we just, we just want to celebrate him. But that could be pretty rough. All right, so. Remember here's here's a Remember Dick Clark's Last Rock and Eve Oh. Yeah. Uh huh. I think it's a little different though, I feel. Like that.

19:16 But you all know exactly what I mean when I say it, right? The the air in this room, just the flame. Yes, I'm very sorry, but but it could, it could be like that. I don't want it to be like that all. Right now moving on to the last bit of news, because this is an interesting one from the get the AI out of here department. None other than Netflix, Warner Brothers, Disney, Paramount, Sony, and the Motion Picture Association of America all have sent cease and desist letters to the Chinese company Byte Dance after the release of the new AI program C Dance 2 Point O.

19:58 A letter in part says the scale and consistency of these results demonstrate systemic infringement rather than inadvertent. In other words, Sea Dance's copyright infringement is a feature, not a bug. The harm to the MPA member studio is a significant and ongoing problem. While we acknowledge Bytedance's recent statements to the press, at this point we need far more than general statements. Ongoing investigation and review of social media platforms continue to reveal example of Sea Dance's producing material that clearly infringes on our members rights. It is Bytedance itself that has trained as models of the MPA Member Studios works without their consent, which is a necessary first step towards its production of infringement output and release.

20:44 Its service, without guardrails and by its own conduct, reproduce and distributed content, blatantly infringes the MPA Member Studios copyrights. Whoa. Bike Dance says our company respects intellectual property. Right. Bite me. And is taking steps to strengthen its current safeguards as we work to prevent the unauthorized use of intellectual properties and licensed fight users. This marks the first time all the studios and the motion picture associate of America have agreed on anything against AI. What? I'm blown away by this and the fact that we've been talking about this for a lot. 2 years, no, three years now about this thing because I remember when they had the strike and the screen actually. So that's at least three years.

21:30 I can't believe that they're all joining forces on this and why the hell it took so long. That's my question as a filmmaker, Lee, what are your thoughts? I mean. I think it's because they're looking so good now, you know? They're looking a lot better. You know, you take Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise and you haven't fight for a little while, you know? Yeah. Baby. You know, it's, it's starting to look better and better. And I'd be upset if it was all my, you know, material or my likeness if I didn't sign in a way that somebody else was kind of using and not getting compensated for it. You know, I mean, I'm seeing that even Speaking of the Star Trek, right? I've been I saw like a I don't know, they were making up songs and on on a YouTube a YouTube video and it would be like Spock and you know, Captain Kirk. And it was like some kind of weird song. And they'd all be in like a like a trailer park or something like that and doing like this kind of song that they were saying. And you're kind of like, wow, that looks pretty real, even though like and you.

22:22 Know this? Right. Most of these guys are not getting. That was legit. Yeah, yeah. Nobody's getting paid, you know, and, and now I just think just because you could make an action film, yeah, you know, that's a lot of money right there, any action movie, right. Hassan, what are your thoughts? You knew what my thoughts are on all of this. Well, I mean, what are your thoughts on that fact that they're all teaming up? Like that's crazy. I think it's great. I think it should have happened about five years ago. But I mean, look, there you go on YouTube now there's people who are so paranoid about being sued because they're using it's a music and pieces of movie to make their, you know, a long form essays that, you know, they they have to alter and distort everything that they show you and then that they play you just to make sure that they can continue to monetize their own videos. But here come these these Bros, these tech Bros, and they're allowed to make movies and TV show. I mean, look, AI wouldn't be half as impressive if you weren't able to use the MCU characters or if you weren't able to use Tom Cruise and and and Brad Pitt in these fights. If it was just like two people on a bridge somewhere, it would just it would be just as as visually impressive to but it wouldn't move any of the needles because nobody would know who these two idiots are.

23:45 So like, why should I care? But you do you have to use licensed characters in order to prove that you know that these people in these blockbuster movies can be used and manipulated for whatever we want. And it's all at the, at the touch of a button. If it wasn't for the, for those licensed characters, AI wouldn't be able to sell itself as a, as a viable, you know, technical or technological entity for kids to use so that they can flood the zone right with their, with that crap. So it's, it's required to, for them to do copyright infringement in order for the, the viability of the, of the product that they're trying to hawk to be appreciated by most of the people. So it is a, it's like an ongoing circus in a circle. And it's a little too late for them all to capitulate together and fight against it, although they have a heck of a case. You know, they could, I mean, with the, with the violations that they've done so far, they could shut all those companies down.

24:51 Unfortunately, those companies now technically run the country, so it's a little too late to be upset about any of it it. Might be one of those beat them join them type things right? You can't beat them. You're going to join them so they might buy their. I mean, like, I don't understand, like the, the, the, the argument for is ridiculous anyway, because every argument, every time you see one of those Hollywood is doomed. So it's like, well, why wouldn't Hollywood just take this stuff and use it then make, you know, make all those movies for cheaper, you know? So it's like the argument is is more on in the 1st place, but then what do you know? It's it's so weird because the, the we talked about how SAG headed by Sean Astin is like, yeah, we're going to now not fight against AI, but we're going to use it in a way that we're going to if you're, if you're going to use AI, we get a cut of it.

25:44 Now they've already like surrendered to it and they're going to use that money to put into their pension funds of the actors. So I'm like, it's already we're ready. We've already passed the point of no return, I believe. I think so. So we're almost out, yeah. But I just don't. I just don't I. Don't know. I just don't think it's going to do anything more than what it's already done. It's going to get prettier and prettier, but I doubt you can make a full movie out of it anytime soon within the next five years. Five years. What do you think? You agree with that? Film makers, do you think? I think it's going faster than you think. I think even if it's a right, maybe 90 minutes, but you probably got a good short out of it, that's for sure. I I. Yeah, though the good short, but a whole movie. It's just time.

26:26 Yeah, I think, I think it's going to be way less than five years, I really believe. Well, and you'll incorporate it into a real movie. You know what? I. Mean that's what they're doing. All right. So we're almost out of time. Almost out of time. Hassan, do you have any final thoughts? No, no. Lee, do you have any final thoughts? Check out my screenplay contest on film Freeway Blue Eye Blue Play Contest no filmfreeway.com and you just go there and go to. The way better than what my final thought would have been so. That is it for this week's news segment. Everybody listen to us on the air. We'll see you next time. For everybody else, stay tuned for more. It came from the radio. Hey, this is Billy West from Show Business. You're listening to It Came from the radio. Get out.

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28:13 I'm doing quite well, darling, how are you? I'm a little slice of heaven now that I'm sitting next to you. Shannon, tell everybody what you do. So I am a horror host for a paranormal streaming network called Paraflix. It has all things spooky on there. It's kind of like chiller theater or chiller whatever for go for paranormal things. So it's really, really cool. I enjoy doing that. I do modeling. I'm acting right now in a movie called The Hell Down Covenant. We're hoping that it comes out by October, November. It's about the 1970s, based on the satanic things that would happen around that time and how spooky it is. I'm not going to give too much away because I want you to come see the movie, and I feel like if I give too much away, it'll ruin it.

29:03 So I've been doing that and I'm working on a paranormal series. NDANDA can't say too much about that. So I've been pretty busy. I'm loving it, yeah. So I'm I'm so amazed with the paranormal. Tell us some of your experiences with that. I've had a lot of experiences with paranormal. I was an investigator or I'm an investigator. I've been investigating for 14 years at this point. You know, it's incredible because you can sometimes feel the history of the places that you're going to and to be able to step back almost in time and, and almost relive that history with them. It's pretty cool to have communication from things that you can't see.

29:56 As a parental investigator, we try to debunk all of that stuff to make sure that we are getting legitimate responses to to what we're doing. But when you're, when you know that you're alone in a room and you're asking questions and you have a recorder or a camera that picks up audio and you have something talking back with you, it's, it's really cool and it's terrifying too. So I enjoy that my experiences are a little scary. So I don't know if I could say that. But yeah. Well, like, I would not be able to do that because I will be so far away from that house the minute I hear anything that's not. But I have in Smithtown, I've heard everything. So Smithtown is a hotbed, A paranormal hotbed, isn't it? Yeah, Smith Town is definitely filled with his, You know, all of the island is, but I know that there are hotspots. Smithtown is definitely a hotspot for some stuff. Southampton is a hotspot for some stuff. I think there is some farmhouses around there that have definite activity in the Smithtown area.

31:05 I believe if you go to longislandparanormal.com, they have a whole list of and it's constantly being updated, but they have a whole list of haunted locations on and off the island with some stories, both the history of the place and the paranormal history as well. So it's pretty cool. If you were interested, you want to look something up. Yeah, I, I've, I've witnessed some stuff, we've talked about it and so it's definitely out there. So now where can people get in touch with you and see what you're about and see how very beautiful you are?

31:50 So where can they do that? So if they want to give me a follow on Instagram, they can. It's a dream under score within a scream on Facebook, Shannon Michelle, 1L Collins, the queen of darkness. Or you can go to my website, adreamwithinascream.com. And if you go through the menu, I think there's a little link tree button that'll bring you to everything else. I want you to know I love that dream scream thing. Thank you. So actually that name was given to me by my friend Thomas O'Connell. He has collabed on some poems that I have done and I was trying to find my way and I was like, I don't want to, I didn't want to use my actual name at that point. And he's like, why not?

32:37 You're just a dream within a scream. And I was like, that's my, that's it. And I asked his permission. I was like, do you mind if if I use that? I use it for the title of my book. And then it just stuck with me and I love it so much. But he took that off of a play from from Edgar Allan Poe. So, well, not obviously some people might not know that, but a dream within a dream, so. Yeah. And just before we we go bye, bye. I just want to say that I have your book of poetry. I love that book. It's it's amazing. Thank you so much. It was an interesting book because it is my poetry, but it's not at the same time because I, I was automatic writing through a spirit. So it was their impressions, their feelings. And the more I was doing it, the more it sounded like poems. And I wound up getting like over 200 writings from that particular session.

33:31 Well, not not in one session, but throughout the time with that particular spirit. And when I put it together, it told the story. And so that was pretty incredible. And then from there I just, I got back into doing poems myself and it's just taken off since then. So thank you. I appreciate that. It's a lot. Yeah, it's an amazing book, Shannon, thank you so much. So for talking with us. And folks, I cannot tell you how multi talented this young lady is. Besides of that, we're not even talking to how drop dead gorgeous she is and beautiful. You also model right and everybody you can see, you can see pictures on our Facebook page. Go to Shannon's social media.

34:19 You can see what she's about. An amazing lady. Shannon, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. I love, I love being around you and talking to you. You're such a great time every time, so thank you. Thank you. This is Charlie Saladino from It Came from the Radio at Long Island Convention of Horror. Back to you in the studio, MA. This is Michael Bell, the voice of Duke from GI Joe, and I am here at Cradle Comm and I am with it came from the radio now. Back to our show, you're. Listening to it came from the radio, you know, this is Jennifer Elise Feldman. If you don't, you do now. I'm here with Gabe Symbolista.

34:59 Now, Gabe is a toureter, which I just learned that term since a young age. And he's always wanted to work in film. So right now he's 38 whole years old working in the film industry, very fulfilling his dreams, which is very cool. I just spoke to him last week about things he's working on. It's very cool, very cool. He's a cameraman, he's a video editor, he's a producer. I'm sure he's emotional and physical support to a lot of people. He's a very caring guy, a very empathetic guy. He's a pianist. He plays a piano, Let's not confuse that. And he's following his dream and fulfilling his dreams of becoming a director while dealing with. I'd say it's a pretty your case of Tourette for most of your life. So yeah, welcome to the show.

35:45 Yeah, thank you, Jen. Yeah. My, my Tourette's is heads its ups and downs. It's evolved a lot since I was younger. It used to be a lot worse. But now my verbal tics are like back to the beginning where my verbal tics were worse than my physical tics or motor tics, as they're called. So it takes a toll on me. So, but, but it's funny, like you said, you know, when working in the industry, when working on sets, my Tourette's just goes away. Like I'm able to control it. Really. Very well. Why do you think that is? It's just a common thing with people with Tourette's syndrome that when they focus on something and they're honed in on something, they're Tourette's goes away or, or it dies down, so to speak. I have intense, well, not really now I'm almost 42, but I think most of my life, you know, everyone well, thank you. Today I'm looking pretty young, but it depends on the day, you know, it depends on the day, yeah. I'd say for, I'd say more than half my life I've had like very insane, like food cravings, 'cause, you know, I, I, I go by the belief that all humans are addicts. So you want to pick the addiction that's like the most beneficial, like healthy addictions rather than the unhealthy ones, and that those healthy addictions can kind of crowd out bad ones.

37:06 But I would say, you know, for years of my life, I had bad food cravings. You know, people disappointed me. I'd want to go get, you know, ice cream with sprinkles. That's just like a thing. It's like it, it sounds silly, but what went on a film set and doing that with things I love creatively. I don't think about, you know, ice cream with sprinkles. I don't think about having any bread with butter. I, I don't, I just think about the process and who I'm with and helping them or getting the shot. I, I really don't even think about food at all. It's very. Funny you said that, that everyone's an addict because there's a great quote on a trailer for Trainspotting, too. I'm going to send it your way. It's like you're an addict. So be addicted, but be addicted to the good things, Family, friends, what you're passionate about. Like, like it's like, it's almost like, yeah, healthy addictions.

37:52 Right. But I mean, you know, the brain, it's wired a certain way. So you would do something. Let's say you have a food at 5:00 today. There's a very high chance you're going to create that same food at 5:00 the next day. So you can wire yourself in a way that's going to set you up for a good life or a crappy life. But anyway, back to you. I want to ask you some questions. Now, people often fantasize about the film industry or some type of job or, you know, a woman or a man and they put it on a pedal steel and they think, oh, I'm going to work in the entertainment industry and it's going to be like this. So what fantasies did you have? And like, how are things different now that you're actually working in the industry? So since I was five years old, I, I love cinema, like like specifically horror, but I expanded as I got older and I always like other things like archaeological stuff like paleontology when I was younger.

38:50 But like, it's never something I could see myself doing as as a profession. Over the years, I developed a passion and a dream to be a director. And I know that I've directed a few short films when I was in college or when I was done with college, I went to school visual arts in New York City and I did a few short films and I got a taste of what it was like. And I have a number. And over the years, you know, even before I got into the industry, which is just in the last several years, I've had a lot of friends in the industry for the last, like I'd say 15 years or so. And and I'm blessed because a lot of them have become close friends of mine, some of which because of the Tourettes, because it's a conversation starter, because it connects people.

39:35 And like, oh, I have a cousin who has Tourettes. I have a friend who I went to school with the friend of his Tourettes. Like even some of the Terminator cast I connected with because of my Tourettes. Like one had a friend she put me in touch with who hopefully can help me with my Tourettes. Or Schwarzenegger stunt double told me about a friend of his restaurants. We sat at the bar Saturday night and just chilled and spoke, you know, you know, and it's like, you know, Tourette's is a conversation starter and it connects me with a lot of people. So I'm grateful for it as much as it caused me pain. But I also feel me as an empathetic person. But As for this film industry, I've been wanting to work in the film industry since I was young. And only in the last few years during COVID, I've officially reached that point. And it was all because I worked on a pod. I I hosted a podcast.

40:20 Called the Indie called the Indie Escape Network, or the network is called The Indie Escape Network. And my podcast is called Symbolistic Cynicism. It's a play on my name and I met a director in it named Cindy Sanabria, who's great, who is working on a film called Horror Able and Horrible Women of a documentaries about film makers and actors with disabilities. And we connected by I was interviewing her and then eventually she hired me to be her editor and I wound up being editor on both films because the editors dropped out or they couldn't do it before whatever personal disability issues or whatever. And they weren't able. They weren't able, Yeah. And I took on the role and I edited the short at first and then she had an editor for the feature.

41:05 Then the editor for the feature dropped out. So I took on the feature. And that features one of my one, I'm one I'm one of them projects I'm most proud about because I got to it went to a Film Festival. I edited the whole film in in a even in a shorter amount of time in the short film. Horrible Women and I went to a big Film Festival in Florida, Spooky Empire, and I was honored to be part of my first panel with my director, Cindy, who's directed the film. I edited it and I'm very proud of it. Now it's on Amazon Prime. Very good. I was going to ask you and the name is called Horror Abel. 2 words Horror Abel and the are able women the short which is is which the feature also has women, but this the short is strictly women.

41:50 The short is on YouTube and the feature is on Amazon Prime. Well, all. Right. Nice, No? Let's. See, I just want to mention that that opened up doors for me as as I rest, like I got more jobs in in the film industry after that. So it's like you get your foot in the door. Even though I knew a lot of these celebrities prior to work in the industry, now somebody worked with me or want to work with me or, or asked me to film something. So it was an honor. Yeah. Yeah, I remember a couple years you were telling me about working on this and then ever since that it seems like you've been really busy. So that sounds, did you think that this would open doors for you? Well. You know, I've had a lot of odd jobs and ongoing, ongoing projects over the years, like editing projects, which I got my editing skills 20 years ago before I even went to college.

42:42 So and I have done photography and videography before that. So I knew that working jobs would open up more potential possibilities for me and I, but I didn't think like I get so many like in a short term period of time. Yeah, I get so many small, like even if they weren't like big jobs, like it added up. And now I have my, I have my own, my IMDb page, which is, I never would have thought a few years ago that I'd have that so soon, you know, even though I've been doing this for years. So yeah. Nice. I'm not surprised. It makes sense. It's it's cool and and really happy for you it by the way. You see yourself. Oh, over there. And the your poster's over there. Your movie poster Night's End is right behind me. Maybe.

43:29 Oh, I see. I see a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ha ha. Put that out. Oh, yeah. All right. So what would you say? What's weren't you of the coolest things that you worked on? So definitely horror. Abel is definitely my most one. I've worked in a number of projects. I have some upcoming ones I'm very excited about, but I can't say anything. OK, but I worked on I worked on as a cameraman on a feature short film by one of the stars of the Nightmare in Elm St. franchise. He directed this film and he hired me as a cameraman and he's been praising me ever since.

44:09 He even praised me before like he he found me very intriguing and he's he's very he was very excited to work with me. And I worked as assistant camera or a third cameraman on his film and it and it it wound up in film festivals all over the world and wound up winning film festivals all over the world, which I'm honored to be part of that. And I also, even when I was in LA and my friend, my friend asked me to be in involved in a horror film and I wound up be doing the BTS on the upcoming Boop R film, the Betty Boop R. Now that the whole domain, you have the Mickey Mouse, you have the, you have the top eye, you have the Winnie the Pooh, all these hard public domain horror films. So I got to work as a BTS photographer and videographer on the Winnie the Pooh, sorry, on the Betty Boop horror film.

44:55 And also I mentioned, you know, that I knew these directors and people, these film makers and actors all before I got into the industry. I actually, when I was in Lai, also my one of my favorite film makers, one of the soft film makers actually asked me to film his podcast. And that was like a dream come true. That was one of the best days of my life, not because I got to film a podcast, but because it was one of my favorite film makers that I've been dreaming to work with, to ask me to work with him and another one of my favorite film makers on their on their podcast. And that was an honor. How's your dream come true? Well, you know what I don't know? I've known you for maybe over 10 years, I want to say. 12 years almost. And I think you're pretty trustworthy and you know, you, you, you care. You seem to have like a pretty strong commitment like me to like want to do the right thing.

45:46 And obviously you followed through a bunch of times. So one thing like both my parents taught me from like a young age is, you know, sure you want to have the skills, people want to work with you if you have, you know, certain skills or connections, questions that they need, sure. But people including myself, when I'm looking for people to include on things, they want to work with someone that they can trust or people that they have a good character. So I'm sure people met you and are like, OK, he obviously has the editing skills, he obviously has the camera skills. He obviously knows like everything about film, right? Maybe not everything but you. I also know it so. Much I have a good. But you also have a character. Yes. I am. I am. And I am a character, right?

46:27 Yeah. Yeah, but you know, you try really hard to do the right thing. Yeah, I, I have a good sense of humor. I've been told on sets that I bring a lot of energy, good energy to the sets, OK, from people I had just met that I I get that morale going. So yeah, it actually you came to the Film Festival that I think, I don't know if I was. No, I wasn't hosting. I was hosting shows there, but I wasn't hosting the whole event that time. No event was. But whatever, it doesn't matter. But I was hosting a lot of stuff and there's. To the actual host show like the the. Yeah, I don't. I don't even remember one year I hosted 1. Where where like you did the scream thing. Yes, and you came and you really helped out with filming, but also there was like a lot of moving parts and one of the cast members even got kicked out.

47:12 He was so problematic. He got my cast member got kicked out. I think he. Got kicked out twice. Got left out there or something and someone else brought an actual knife. The guy playing Mike Myers didn't bring a fake knife. He bought an actual like like a fake knife. And I'm like, you can't wait. What? So there was mayhem, but you were very supportive. It's not rubber. Yeah. Whoa. It was real. And I'm like, you can't. What the hell? Yeah, I know this is what happens when you test people who aren't actors, but you were very supportive, and I really needed support that day. Yeah. Yeah, when somebody listen, I've I've done my fair share of mistakes in my life and said stupid things.

47:53 But but, but The thing is, is that when it comes to at the end of the day, I care about my friends and I worry about them and I want I want them to be feel safe and it like it. And like, if I ever made anybody feel unsafe, I would be kicking myself for years, you know? Right, right, right, right. I'm trying to think if I've ever made anyone feel unsafe. I feel like I should make more people feel unsafe to be honest with you. Yeah, I was going to say I'm surprised you don't. I. You're pretty tough. You're pretty tough, Jen. Really. I don't know. I think you're tough. Yeah, I wouldn't. Want to mess with you? Yeah, No, no, no, no.

48:33 I I had to calculate a long time ago around the time we first met because someone really was going after me. And it's happened since then. But I, I really calculated. I was really afraid. I was, I was actually caught my I actually caught myself doing what the phrase is sleeping with one eye open. I caught myself actually like having one eye open at one point because I was so afraid this guy was going to come through my ground floor apartment window and like kidnap me to make the things come true. So I calculated, okay, this guy really did like come after me. I'm like, I figured out it would really be like Kazakhstan going against the US and China and Russia and it, it would be no problem. So you know, whatever.

49:15 But anyway, back to you now the surprises in filmmaking. I feel like filmmaking for me, even recording interviews today that's full of surprises. I had surprises on my last interview. Things that never happened. What are some unexpected things that have happened on the film set or post production? Pre production? Well, weather is definitely one, I mean, but that's not expecting, you know, just bad weather. Sure. I won't say unsuspecting. I'd say like unfortunate or, or, or like, or like, like things that went went wrong or things that were just disappointing.

49:56 But that happens with all sets. Like I know sometimes like cameras are have have issues. So I have to constant like so I have to constantly like if I, let's say I'm running three cameras and one of them heats up too much and they're not mine, but like, like it was heating up too much, I have to turn it off and let it cool off. And then so I have to like, 'cause let's say a video was going to be multi cams where we shoot with multiple cameras. Then we edit it together and 'cause we time it and we edit it together and cut, cut it together. So it could cut from different angle to different angle. And but then we lose an angle because the camera is hot or the camera's having issues or there's, sometimes there's drama with people on set.

50:40 You know, you sometimes you have that and you've, you've seen it in big productions like with Christian Bale and and other and other celebrities. You know, it, it happens. Sometimes there's drama on set. What kind of drama can you tell us? Can you tell us any story? I'd rather not because it's it's it's it's for a project that I worked on. That's not that. It's not my place to say, OK, OK, so but, but, but everything worked out in the end. That's all that mattered. The production was completed and everything worked out. That's all that matters. And and the film is hopefully is coming out this year. I just, I was looking forward to that. It was an honor to be part of and listen. Like even in the horror convention world or New York Film Festival or the OR the Film Festival world, there's always going to be drama or.

51:40 Yeah. Patches you hit listen there, there's a lot of productions that run short on not not that I've run. Well, sort of maybe we're showing short on funds and and we things had to be squeezed out or like I had to take a pay cut, you know, to or not no pay at all, just so the production could could watch its budget. And I offered to help out and take a roll for free, you know, and that doesn't always happen. It has happened, but it's unfortunate. But you know what? If I could get my names in there, my name in there, it's worth a day or two of work, you know?

52:21 Yeah, I always ask about what goes wrong and what goes right. Sure, it could be interesting, you know, for listeners gossip, you know, but I'm not really the TMZ type. I'm more of like, let's diagnose the problem and prevent problems. Like like along came Polly, the the risk analysis, assessment analysis. So that's really why I ask. It's 'cause if you know what went wrong on this set, you can go oh, OK. Like, you know, let's say Co stars are dating. That can often end in a bad way. Maybe you don't want to do that or, you know, maybe you're having meetings and there's a lot of drinking involved. That's a lot of you. Know it's very funny you said all this because I just watched a video yesterday about Queen of the damned Thalia that came and that she died when when it's waking out and that the director was up to the third act and like or like like the red director didn't only feel like 2/3 of the movie and he was running low on funds like that. He had to bring his own funds.

53:21 The actors had to put in their own funds like they were squeezing themselves out for everything just to get the film done. Like it was like like a third of the film or the finale or whatever the climax, like every like they they were working their off like and spending so much of their own money just to get the film that they put so much into completed. And that happens sometimes. Listen, even this first soft film, the producers and directors, what whichever I I forget, put put like put all their own money into the film and like put in everything they had. And now it's like a billion dollar box office hit like franchise, you know, right? Right, right. You never know.

54:01 But like, and there was a lot of problems in productions and some of the soft films like just getting things done and completed and disagreements. Like it just, it just happens sometimes. But it's worth the investment for a lot of people. Sometimes it's not. But for the people I know, it has been worth the investment. Right, right. Well, maybe it was coincidence that the saw creators invested or maybe something they had a good instinct because part of success at life, you know, in health if anything, is knowing when to double down, when to keep investing in this food, this film, this actor, and then to pull out everything. To saw first saw film, but the ending. Is.

54:41 I think I did. So the ending is one of the biggest greatest rated one of the greatest twist endings of all time in cinema. So I think that ending is what got people to fall in love with it and burst the sequels, which six more sequels over the course of the next six years or seven years and then more sequels later on in the in the in the long run. And yeah, it's it's become one of the most successful horror franchises of all time. Yeah, I actually like, felt physical pain while watching it 'cause it was just the way it was done and shot. It was very scary and I felt like things were happening. Yeah, there's a lot of fast-paced editing and the soft phones which I enjoy, but I what I love about it most is the non linear storytelling and the twists.

55:29 It's very cool storytelling. Interesting. So it wasn't like someone being like thrown into a meat grinder, that was. No, no, no, there was definitely some meat being thrown into a into a pum pit of needles, that's for sure. The meat grinder thing, definitely similar things. I wouldn't say a meat grinder that the meat grinder thing was more Texas Chainsaw 3D. That was my friend Dan Yeager played Leatherface in that, but I'm just looking at the poster of him. But yeah, he he chases somebody and write it and cuts off their hand and they fall right into a meat grinder. But I wouldn't. I don't think there's a meat grinder in saw, but there's definitely grinder. Yeah, there's like some pigs. There's like a bunch. It's the thing that all the. Pigs. The pigs grinder and it cuts up the pig.

56:10 The dead pigs and it drowns the guy. Yeah, yeah, there's something like that. I don't know, it is gross. But anyway, you know, I like Caddyshack. I I like stuff like that, you know? Yeah, I like to laugh. I don't want to see anyone hurt in real life at all, even if I don't really like them. If I real like a little bit of blood in real life then I do in the car movies with the gore. Interesting. Anyway, game so let's say. Somebody has my family hit their head? We got an end game. I'm sorry, we got it. We got to cut it and call it off. Sorry, we are way over the time limit. And listen, I'd have you here for a few more minutes, but I got someone waiting and Mark Torres says I have to keep these interviews to 20 minutes or less and we are over 20 minutes.

56:55 So on that note, Gabe, tell us where to find you. Find me on Instagram at Gabriel symbols 2 that's GABRIELSCY MB A LS2 at Gmail. Sorry I'm talking about my Gmail that's my Instagram. My Facebook is Gabe symbolista spelled GY MB A/B ALISTA. That's Cy MB ALISDA, the first name Gabriel. I don't think you need help spelling that My Twitter, I don't really use much. My TikTok is Gabe symbols or Gabe symbolist. I'm not sure, but you could pretty much figure that out. And yeah, I don't really use Snapchat much, but sometimes.

57:37 But yeah, I, I, I'm a social media whore, I'll admit it. So so I post a lot, but I like to entertain people. I have friends who just love watching my stuff online and get get some through the day so. Well, look him up. I'm sure Gabe will be up to some really interesting things this year and next year and probably the year after that. And on that note, back to the studio with Mark Torres for more. It came from the radio. Deepak tah you had any honor you would listen to sci-fi dot radio the sci-fi for your Wi-Fi kapla. Now back to our show.

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