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look about two warring alien
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discovered power source.
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Earth and as a result some
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Issue 1 is on sale right now and
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April, so fingers crossed for
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Why don't you know?
Well, it's the universe.

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May.
May, you know, Was it?

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What did you just say, Hassan,
barring any instances.

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Was that you?
Yeah.

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Yes, OK, barring any instances.
The book will come out it's.

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Positive vibes.
It'll be out, yes.

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It will be out in April, Yeah.
So let's see.

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We'll start off with the sad
news.

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Let's see we got for the sad
news.

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Oh.
There'll be plenty.

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Actually, we only have two
business.

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Sad news we have actor Robert
Reed Carradine died recently

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from suicide.
And while Robert was in a slew

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of movies and TV shows, he is
perhaps best known for his role

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of Sam McGuire, the father on
the series Lizzie McGuire, which

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ran for 65 episodes.
And of course, Lewis and the

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Revenge of the Nerds, as well as
his equals part 2-3 and four.

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He was 71 years old.
Lee, I know you were a fan of

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his, right?
Yeah, I did like his stuff.

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I mean, well, one of my favorite
movies is the Long Riders with

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him because they had like a
bunch of brothers in it, right?

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So it was the Carradines, it was
the Keeches, right?

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And and the quaits actually, so
right, they were all in the

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Jesse James gang and it was kind
of like this cool old Western.

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So I like that.
I like that.

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I mean revenge, the nerds, I
know everybody loves whatever,

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but the Long Riders for me was
like for, for what I wanted to

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watch, you know, and see.
And you met him?

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Right.
Yeah.

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So I met him.
I was at the Aviation Museum.

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I forgot.
Which I was the cradle con.

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The cradle con, right?
Yeah.

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So I met him there, which was
actually cool and, and his

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daughter, which was they, they
were nice, You know, they were,

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he was trying to get out.
That was the funny part.

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He was like, it's over.
I got to get out of here.

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I got to make a plane.
I'll just sign this and say,

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hey, what's up for like 2
seconds, but I got to go.

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There was a.
Picture of Harrison Ford and he

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signed it and I was like, I just
got to move on.

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Right.
Keep moving, right?

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Get off my plane, you know.
Son, were you a fan of Robert's

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work?
I didn't realize he committed

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suicide, unfortunately.
Yeah, of course.

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I'm, I'm unlikely.
I'm, I'm, I know.

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I'm strictly from Revenge of the
Nerds and you know, I, I mean,

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there was a memorable
performance of that.

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I've seen him in other things,
but I mean, I know him specific.

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I every time I saw him from
something else I said that's

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what ends in the nerd cast.
So he was an escape from LA.

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He had like 1 scene and.
He got like, Oh my goodness,

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yeah, yeah, he did.
Oh, my God.

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OK.
And and and and escape from LA.

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Yes.
Escape from LA.

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There you go.
So he was 71 years old.

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Moving on for the second and
last bit of sad news, actress

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Lauren and Chaplin also died
recently.

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As of this recording, no cause
of death has been announced.

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Lauren was perhaps best known as
Kathy Anderson, nicknamed

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Kitten, who was the youngest
child for nine of nine hundred

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196 episodes of the TV series
Followers Knows Best, which ran

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from 1954 to 1960.
She was 80 years old.

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I've never seen Followers Know
the Best, but I know it existed.

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You son, you know follows best.
Yes.

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No.
Bill, Bill, because it's just

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way before my time.
Thank you for not knowing that.

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That's before my time, but we
have.

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Shows that were before your
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I Love Lucy honeymooners.
Come on man.

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I know, I know.
But I'm, I've chosen to take it

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personally.
But no, I don't.

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I've never seen her, you know,
performances.

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But it's too bad.
It's sad that she's gone.

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Hassan, not Hassan Lee.
Yeah, no, I mean, I knew of the

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show, I just didn't know what.
Else did you ever watch it or?

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I mean if I started to rerun
maybe?

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I don't know.
Oh yeah.

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That.
Was a beautiful time mark.

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So.
Unfortunately.

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Unfortunately.
Yeah.

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He was 80 years old.
And that is it for the sad news.

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And Mr. Hassan Godwin on the
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So as we always do, we we're
done with the sad news.

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For now, we're doing from the
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that's a lot of nuts department.
The new animated film Goat,

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which came in at the number two
spot last week, has taken the

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number one a spot in domestic ox
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$16.8 million in ticket sales
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being out with the film
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at #2 spot, making an additional
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week of release.
For those of you keeping track,

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Avatar is still the highest
gross in film of this year with

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$399.5 million, followed by
Zoopia 2 with $423.9 million.

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Now, as I've been mentioning
since the beginning of the year,

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because both of those movies
came out last year, the numbers

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are slightly Askew.
And this year Avatar has made

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$149.2 million.
Zootopia has raked in $86

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million.
And of note, apparently me, I

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have been mistaken for this
entire year, as I mentioned

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multiple times on this show that
The House made, which is the

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third highest grossing film of
this year so far, came out this

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year.
But in fact it came out also

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last year.
So the top three movies of this

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year all came out last year.
Yeah, did.

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You see any of them?
Well done, Martin Lee.

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Did you see any?
Of them I saw Avatar.

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You saw Avatar?
Yeah, last year, right?

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Yeah, I didn't see the other
ones.

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Utopian house, I guess.
Housemate.

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Housemate.
No, I don't even know what

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Housemate is.
That's the Amanda Seyfried

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Sidney Sweeney movie.
Oh yeah, that's that's beyond my

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demographic.
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I.
Actually, I saw it and I thought

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it was pretty darn good.
It was it.

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It fell in the lines.
I've been saying this many

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times.
It fell along the lines of The

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Barbarian where you're thinking
it's one movie really, and

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you're watching it and it's not
that type of movie at all.

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It has a little twist and
another twist and you're like,

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oh, it's a completely different
movie, all right.

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So if you go back and see it
again, which I intend to now

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that I know the twists and
everything, I will see it from a

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different perspective.
Is it in the theaters still?

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It should still be in the
theaters.

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Yeah, yeah, still still be in
the theaters.

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Song, have you seen?
I know you saw Avatar, right?

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Yes, I did and.
Knows Zootopia.

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Still knows Zootopia.
Knows Zootopia.

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And housemaid.
Heck no.

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Heck no.
Heck no.

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Strange that you've seen it, but
okay, with all the other movies

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around to be able to be seen
that we that we speak up on a

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regular basis.
Somehow you've seen house made

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of all of them.
Weird.

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What could it have been?
It had some have been had

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certain things that I felt I
needed to watch certain.

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Elements.
Four of them.

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Specifically.
Yes.

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So that was.
That.

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Now I have to watch the trailer
for that one so.

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Good.
Moving on from the a lot of nuts

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department recently at an
auction, the Pokémon Pikachu

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illustrator card owned by
wrestler slash YouTube Logan

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Paul has sold for a Guinness
Book of world record-breaking.

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When I want to make a guess, Lee
guess how much a Pokémon card

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sold for.
Oh.

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Man World.
Record-breaking. 20 million. 20

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million, Hassan, what do you
think?

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50 million. 50 million, well, I
feel bad.

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It's only $16,492,000.
Well, that's your fault.

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For me it's such a big deal of.
A.

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Billion card record-breaking
16,000,000 Still pretty bad, but

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fine.
It could have been anything.

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We live in a terribly crazy
world.

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Fine, Auctioneer says this is a
historic night, and for not only

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the Pokémon community, but a
historic night for the entire

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collectible community.
We just keep showing there are

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no barriers.
These things that we all love

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and appreciate keep going up and
keep setting records, keeping a

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keep bringing people together, I
do not think.

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Although we just made
16,000,000, how cool is that?

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So it was an auction, so they
probably get like, what, 20% of

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the of the deal and they get
like a buyer's fee.

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So they made a couple.
1,000,020% to 16,000,000 is

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pretty pretty darn decent.
For just putting a card on

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auction, a card, one card
that's.

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Crazy one.
Card, yeah.

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Do I have that card in my house?
I don't know.

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You do have Pokémon cards,
right?

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My son does well.
You do buy osmosis that your.

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Son has.
Right, exactly.

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You want everything but.
Someone didn't just grab all

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those cards.
You'll thank me later.

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Son.
Right.

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Exactly.
What was he doing with a card

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that you sold for $16 million?
I would do a lot, you know.

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Or what would you do for what
would you do if you bought a

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card for $16 million?
Yeah.

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I mean, it's got to be.
Is it cool looking at least?

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I don't know.
All right, OK.

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I mean, frame it.
I don't know.

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I took it in a vault.
I would think it's already

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framed.
Yeah, I guess it's it can't be a

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loose car.
It's got to be encapsulated in a

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little sealed thing, right?
Oh, it's a graded 9.8.

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What do you think of some?
What are?

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What are your thoughts on that?
Which question what would I do

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with the 16 million or would I
do with a card?

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What would you do with a card
that was worth $16,000,000?

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And don't say I sold it.
You were you were ready for that

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and I was ready for you being.
I would fold it into a little

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paper plane if they were to
cross the the living room,

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because if I was able to spend
16 billion on it, that means

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I've got a billion dollars on on
hand if I if I was going to do

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that the.
Most expensive stamp and mail it

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right?
Exactly.

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Exactly.
All right, so moving on.

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Ready, Ryan from the.
Department, None other than

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that's a good lead up.
None other than William Shatner

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has announced he is planning to
release a heavy metal album.

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Shatner says.
I have explored space.

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I have explored time.
Now I explore distortion 35

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metal virtuosis, thunderous
guitars, chaos with purpose,

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honest intensity, unapologetic.
Exploration at 94.1 does not

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slow down.
One turns the volume up.

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So prepare yourselves.
We're about to boldly head bang

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where no one has head bang
before.

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Stay tuned.
The metal voyage begins this

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year.
We've had him on the show.

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I've met him a few times, but
you're 94.

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Like we'll see.
He's done everything.

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Why not make a heavy metal?
Yeah, why not do something fun?

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Would you purchase and or listen
to the heavy metal?

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I mean, is it going to be like
his old stuff in a way, like his

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like spoken word kind of music
where it's like heavy metal

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music behind his spoken word?
Because that would be kind of

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funny.
I would like listen to it just

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for a second, see what it's.
Like so it's supposed to have

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metal samples that are like
Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden?

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Do you just priest and as well
as quote a few originals forged

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in the same cosmic fire?
Hassan, you're a musician.

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What do you think of all that?
He did a song, yeah, that I

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heard years ago called Common.
He didn't hear it.

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It was it was original song from
I think it was the Kinks who

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originally did it, but it was
called common people and it it

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kind of blew my mind.
I thought it was strangely

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great.
Yeah.

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You know, so I don't, I wouldn't
put it past him to to do

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something in May.
But he's 95 years old.

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So I mean, at this point, if he
wanted to do a swimsuit edition

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of Sports Illustrated, I'd say
let him do it.

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He let him do it, Yeah.
He's one of, we've talked about

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this many times, like he's like
one of the last celebrities out

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there who just like he's done it
all.

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He's just, he's a master of his
crap.

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He's like the guy that is multi
generational cross platforms.

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Everybody knows who he is from
something.

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Some may know him from Star
Trek, some may know him as the

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Priceline guy, 'cause I remember
when he was on our show, I was

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telling all my friends we got
William Shatner on the show and

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they go who like the younger
kids.

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And I was like the Priceline
guy, Like, oh, the Priceline

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guy, He's on your show.
Or when he was on Boston Legal,

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like he's done so much.
Yeah.

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He's done plenty of some.
It's incredible.

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I guess like every decade he
does something for the most

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part.
I mean it goes to space for like

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2 seconds for real, you know?
And is our business.

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I do want to see him perform it
though.

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That is the thing I want to see
him on, Say I.

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Don't, boy.
I don't.

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Know about that?
If if he's fake playing what the

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people behind him, I think it'll
be just a spectacle to see.

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I feel like it's him, a
microphone and Metallica behind

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him.
That's.

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Kind of what it.
Is I'd rather not see that.

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I'd rather hear it than see it
because that could be, that

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could go both ways, you know,
and we don't want to humiliate

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him at the at the tail end of
his career.

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We just, you know, we just, we
just want to celebrate him.

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But that could be pretty rough.
All right, so.

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Remember here's here's a
Remember Dick Clark's Last Rock

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and Eve Oh.
Yeah.

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Uh huh.
I think it's a little different

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though, I feel.
Like that.

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But you all know exactly what I
mean when I say it, right?

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The the air in this room, just
the flame.

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Yes, I'm very sorry, but but it
could, it could be like that.

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I don't want it to be like that
all.

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Right now moving on to the last
bit of news, because this is an

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interesting one from the get the
AI out of here department.

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None other than Netflix, Warner
Brothers, Disney, Paramount,

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Sony, and the Motion Picture
Association of America all have

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sent cease and desist letters to
the Chinese company Byte Dance

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after the release of the new AI
program C Dance 2 Point O.

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A letter in part says the scale
and consistency of these results

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demonstrate systemic
infringement rather than

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inadvertent.
In other words, Sea Dance's

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copyright infringement is a
feature, not a bug.

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The harm to the MPA member
studio is a significant and

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ongoing problem.
While we acknowledge Bytedance's

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recent statements to the press,
at this point we need far more

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than general statements.
Ongoing investigation and review

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of social media platforms
continue to reveal example of

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Sea Dance's producing material
that clearly infringes on our

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members rights.
It is Bytedance itself that has

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trained as models of the MPA
Member Studios works without

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their consent, which is a
necessary first step towards its

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production of infringement
output and release.

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Its service, without guardrails
and by its own conduct,

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reproduce and distributed
content, blatantly infringes the

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MPA Member Studios copyrights.
Whoa.

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Bike Dance says our company
respects intellectual property.

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Right.
Bite me.

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And is taking steps to
strengthen its current

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safeguards as we work to prevent
the unauthorized use of

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intellectual properties and
licensed fight users.

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This marks the first time all
the studios and the motion

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picture associate of America
have agreed on anything against

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AI.
What?

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I'm blown away by this and the
fact that we've been talking

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about this for a lot. 2 years,
no, three years now about this

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thing because I remember when
they had the strike and the

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screen actually.
So that's at least three years.

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I can't believe that they're all
joining forces on this and why

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the hell it took so long.
That's my question as a

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filmmaker, Lee, what are your
thoughts?

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I mean.
I think it's because they're

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looking so good now, you know?
They're looking a lot better.

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You know, you take Brad Pitt and
Tom Cruise and you haven't fight

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for a little while, you know?
Yeah.

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Baby.
You know, it's, it's starting to

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look better and better.
And I'd be upset if it was all

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my, you know, material or my
likeness if I didn't sign in a

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way that somebody else was kind
of using and not getting

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compensated for it.
You know, I mean, I'm seeing

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that even Speaking of the Star
Trek, right?

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I've been I saw like a I don't
know, they were making up songs

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and on on a YouTube a YouTube
video and it would be like Spock

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and you know, Captain Kirk.
And it was like some kind of

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weird song.
And they'd all be in like a like

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a trailer park or something like
that and doing like this kind of

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song that they were saying.
And you're kind of like, wow,

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that looks pretty real, even
though like and you.

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Know this?
Right.

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Most of these guys are not
getting.

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That was legit.
Yeah, yeah.

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Nobody's getting paid, you know,
and, and now I just think just

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because you could make an action
film, yeah, you know, that's a

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lot of money right there, any
action movie, right.

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Hassan, what are your thoughts?
You knew what my thoughts are on

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all of this.
Well, I mean, what are your

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thoughts on that fact that
they're all teaming up?

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Like that's crazy.
I think it's great.

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I think it should have happened
about five years ago.

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But I mean, look, there you go
on YouTube now there's people

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who are so paranoid about being
sued because they're using it's

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a music and pieces of movie to
make their, you know, a long

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form essays that, you know, they
they have to alter and distort

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everything that they show you
and then that they play you just

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to make sure that they can
continue to monetize their own

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videos.
But here come these these Bros,

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these tech Bros, and they're
allowed to make movies and TV

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show.
I mean, look, AI wouldn't be

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half as impressive if you
weren't able to use the MCU

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characters or if you weren't
able to use Tom Cruise and and

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and Brad Pitt in these fights.
If it was just like two people

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on a bridge somewhere, it would
just it would be just as as

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visually impressive to but it
wouldn't move any of the needles

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because nobody would know who
these two idiots are.

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So like, why should I care?
But you do you have to use

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licensed characters in order to
prove that you know that these

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people in these blockbuster
movies can be used and

452
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,520
manipulated for whatever we
want.

453
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,360
And it's all at the, at the
touch of a button.

454
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,200
If it wasn't for the, for those
licensed characters, AI wouldn't

455
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,320
be able to sell itself as a, as
a viable, you know, technical or

456
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,880
technological entity for kids to
use so that they can flood the

457
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,280
zone right with their, with that
crap.

458
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:23,280
So it's, it's required to, for
them to do copyright

459
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,080
infringement in order for the,
the viability of the, of the

460
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,720
product that they're trying to
hawk to be appreciated by most

461
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,120
of the people.
So it is a, it's like an ongoing

462
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:40,400
circus in a circle.
And it's a little too late for

463
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,520
them all to capitulate together
and fight against it, although

464
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,720
they have a heck of a case.
You know, they could, I mean,

465
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,480
with the, with the violations
that they've done so far, they

466
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,960
could shut all those companies
down.

467
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,960
Unfortunately, those companies
now technically run the country,

468
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,160
so it's a little too late to be
upset about any of it it.

469
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,680
Might be one of those beat them
join them type things right?

470
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,960
You can't beat them.
You're going to join them so

471
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,320
they might buy their.
I mean, like, I don't

472
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,640
understand, like the, the, the,
the argument for is ridiculous

473
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,520
anyway, because every argument,
every time you see one of those

474
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,600
Hollywood is doomed.
So it's like, well, why wouldn't

475
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,560
Hollywood just take this stuff
and use it then make, you know,

476
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,920
make all those movies for
cheaper, you know?

477
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,640
So it's like the argument is is
more on in the 1st place, but

478
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,960
then what do you know?
It's it's so weird because the,

479
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,080
the we talked about how SAG
headed by Sean Astin is like,

480
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,200
yeah, we're going to now not
fight against AI, but we're

481
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,280
going to use it in a way that
we're going to if you're, if

482
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,520
you're going to use AI, we get a
cut of it.

483
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,920
Now they've already like
surrendered to it and they're

484
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,120
going to use that money to put
into their pension funds of the

485
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,000
actors.
So I'm like, it's already we're

486
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,200
ready.
We've already passed the point

487
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,080
of no return, I believe.
I think so.

488
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,240
So we're almost out, yeah.
But I just don't.

489
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,520
I just don't I.
Don't know.

490
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,560
I just don't think it's going to
do anything more than what it's

491
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,600
already done.
It's going to get prettier and

492
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,760
prettier, but I doubt you can
make a full movie out of it

493
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,800
anytime soon within the next
five years.

494
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,040
Five years.
What do you think?

495
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,440
You agree with that?
Film makers, do you think?

496
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,920
I think it's going faster than
you think.

497
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,520
I think even if it's a right,
maybe 90 minutes, but you

498
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,040
probably got a good short out of
it, that's for sure.

499
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,840
I I.
Yeah, though the good short, but

500
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,200
a whole movie.
It's just time.

501
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,480
Yeah, I think, I think it's
going to be way less than five

502
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,840
years, I really believe.
Well, and you'll incorporate it

503
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,160
into a real movie.
You know what?

504
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,160
I.
Mean that's what they're doing.

505
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,920
All right.
So we're almost out of time.

506
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,080
Almost out of time.
Hassan, do you have any final

507
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,200
thoughts?
No, no.

508
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,720
Lee, do you have any final
thoughts?

509
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,280
Check out my screenplay contest
on film Freeway Blue Eye Blue

510
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,440
Play Contest no filmfreeway.com
and you just go there and go to.

511
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,640
The way better than what my
final thought would have been

512
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,120
so.
That is it for this week's news

513
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,080
segment.
Everybody listen to us on the

514
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,120
air.
We'll see you next time.

515
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,480
For everybody else, stay tuned
for more.

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Hi, I'm Olivia Yonkers from Star
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533
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listening to It Came from the
Radio.

534
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,600
Now back to our show.
This is Jolly Saladino from It

535
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,880
Came from the Radio.
I'm here live at Long Island

536
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,720
Convention of Horror and I'm
here and very I'm very happy to

537
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,520
be here with the Queen of
Darkness, the multi talented

538
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,000
Shannon Michelle Collins, how
are you today?

539
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,240
I'm doing quite well, darling,
how are you?

540
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,680
I'm a little slice of heaven now
that I'm sitting next to you.

541
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,960
Shannon, tell everybody what you
do.

542
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,680
So I am a horror host for a
paranormal streaming network

543
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,240
called Paraflix.
It has all things spooky on

544
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,080
there.
It's kind of like chiller

545
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,680
theater or chiller whatever for
go for paranormal things.

546
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,880
So it's really, really cool.
I enjoy doing that.

547
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,080
I do modeling.
I'm acting right now in a movie

548
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,680
called The Hell Down Covenant.
We're hoping that it comes out

549
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,800
by October, November.
It's about the 1970s, based on

550
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,320
the satanic things that would
happen around that time and how

551
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,640
spooky it is.
I'm not going to give too much

552
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,280
away because I want you to come
see the movie, and I feel like

553
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,520
if I give too much away, it'll
ruin it.

554
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,280
So I've been doing that and I'm
working on a paranormal series.

555
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,000
NDANDA can't say too much about
that.

556
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,160
So I've been pretty busy.
I'm loving it, yeah.

557
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,320
So I'm I'm so amazed with the
paranormal.

558
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,000
Tell us some of your experiences
with that.

559
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520
I've had a lot of experiences
with paranormal.

560
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,600
I was an investigator or I'm an
investigator.

561
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120
I've been investigating for 14
years at this point.

562
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:42,480
You know, it's incredible
because you can sometimes feel

563
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,280
the history of the places that
you're going to and to be able

564
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:51,040
to step back almost in time and,
and almost relive that history

565
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,720
with them.
It's pretty cool to have

566
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,440
communication from things that
you can't see.

567
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,800
As a parental investigator, we
try to debunk all of that stuff

568
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,400
to make sure that we are getting
legitimate responses to to what

569
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,640
we're doing.
But when you're, when you know

570
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,480
that you're alone in a room and
you're asking questions and you

571
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,080
have a recorder or a camera that
picks up audio and you have

572
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,280
something talking back with you,
it's, it's really cool and it's

573
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,200
terrifying too.
So I enjoy that my experiences

574
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840
are a little scary.
So I don't know if I could say

575
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,400
that.
But yeah.

576
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:31,040
Well, like, I would not be able
to do that because I will be so

577
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,560
far away from that house the
minute I hear anything that's

578
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,240
not.
But I have in Smithtown, I've

579
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,480
heard everything.
So Smithtown is a hotbed, A

580
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:50,200
paranormal hotbed, isn't it?
Yeah, Smith Town is definitely

581
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,880
filled with his, You know, all
of the island is, but I know

582
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,880
that there are hotspots.
Smithtown is definitely a

583
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,720
hotspot for some stuff.
Southampton is a hotspot for

584
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,600
some stuff.
I think there is some farmhouses

585
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,880
around there that have definite
activity in the Smithtown area.

586
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:13,480
I believe if you go to
longislandparanormal.com, they

587
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,040
have a whole list of and it's
constantly being updated, but

588
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640
they have a whole list of
haunted locations on and off the

589
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,840
island with some stories, both
the history of the place and the

590
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,080
paranormal history as well.
So it's pretty cool.

591
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,400
If you were interested, you want
to look something up.

592
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,960
Yeah, I, I've, I've witnessed
some stuff, we've talked about

593
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,680
it and so it's definitely out
there.

594
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,840
So now where can people get in
touch with you and see what

595
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,520
you're about and see how very
beautiful you are?

596
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,120
So where can they do that?
So if they want to give me a

597
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,720
follow on Instagram, they can.
It's a dream under score within

598
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,000
a scream on Facebook, Shannon
Michelle, 1L Collins, the queen

599
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,640
of darkness.
Or you can go to my website,

600
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,920
adreamwithinascream.com.
And if you go through the menu,

601
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,000
I think there's a little link
tree button that'll bring you to

602
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,200
everything else.
I want you to know I love that

603
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,640
dream scream thing.
Thank you.

604
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,120
So actually that name was given
to me by my friend Thomas

605
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,040
O'Connell.
He has collabed on some poems

606
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:32,360
that I have done and I was
trying to find my way and I was

607
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,960
like, I don't want to, I didn't
want to use my actual name at

608
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,680
that point.
And he's like, why not?

609
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,360
You're just a dream within a
scream.

610
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,080
And I was like, that's my,
that's it.

611
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,040
And I asked his permission.
I was like, do you mind if if I

612
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,480
use that?
I use it for the title of my

613
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,800
book.
And then it just stuck with me

614
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,200
and I love it so much.
But he took that off of a play

615
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,040
from from Edgar Allan Poe.
So, well, not obviously some

616
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,240
people might not know that, but
a dream within a dream, so.

617
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,680
Yeah.
And just before we we go bye,

618
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,320
bye.
I just want to say that I have

619
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,120
your book of poetry.
I love that book.

620
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,560
It's it's amazing.
Thank you so much.

621
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,520
It was an interesting book
because it is my poetry, but

622
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,800
it's not at the same time
because I, I was automatic

623
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,760
writing through a spirit.
So it was their impressions,

624
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,000
their feelings.
And the more I was doing it, the

625
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,200
more it sounded like poems.
And I wound up getting like over

626
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,960
200 writings from that
particular session.

627
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,440
Well, not not in one session,
but throughout the time with

628
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,200
that particular spirit.
And when I put it together, it

629
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,480
told the story.
And so that was pretty

630
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440
incredible.
And then from there I just, I

631
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,360
got back into doing poems myself
and it's just taken off since

632
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,360
then.
So thank you.

633
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,240
I appreciate that.
It's a lot.

634
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,080
Yeah, it's an amazing book,
Shannon, thank you so much.

635
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:59,000
So for talking with us.
And folks, I cannot tell you how

636
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,800
multi talented this young lady
is.

637
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,960
Besides of that, we're not even
talking to how drop dead

638
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,480
gorgeous she is and beautiful.
You also model right and

639
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:16,280
everybody you can see, you can
see pictures on our Facebook

640
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,199
page.
Go to Shannon's social media.

641
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,280
You can see what she's about.
An amazing lady.

642
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,159
Shannon, thank you so much.
Thank you.

643
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,600
Thank you.
I love, I love being around you

644
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,159
and talking to you.
You're such a great time every

645
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,400
time, so thank you.
Thank you.

646
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,000
This is Charlie Saladino from It
Came from the Radio at Long

647
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Island Convention of Horror.
Back to you in the studio, MA.

648
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,520
This is Michael Bell, the voice
of Duke from GI Joe, and I am

649
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,480
here at Cradle Comm and I am
with it came from the radio now.

650
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Back to our show, you're.
Listening to it came from the

651
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,080
radio, you know, this is
Jennifer Elise Feldman.

652
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,320
If you don't, you do now.
I'm here with Gabe Symbolista.

653
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,240
Now, Gabe is a toureter, which I
just learned that term since a

654
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,160
young age.
And he's always wanted to work

655
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,680
in film.
So right now he's 38 whole years

656
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,320
old working in the film
industry, very fulfilling his

657
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,320
dreams, which is very cool.
I just spoke to him last week

658
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,440
about things he's working on.
It's very cool, very cool.

659
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,000
He's a cameraman, he's a video
editor, he's a producer.

660
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,000
I'm sure he's emotional and
physical support to a lot of

661
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,840
people.
He's a very caring guy, a very

662
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,200
empathetic guy.
He's a pianist.

663
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,880
He plays a piano, Let's not
confuse that.

664
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,200
And he's following his dream and
fulfilling his dreams of

665
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,840
becoming a director while
dealing with.

666
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,240
I'd say it's a pretty your case
of Tourette for most of your

667
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,000
life.
So yeah, welcome to the show.

668
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,400
Yeah, thank you, Jen.
Yeah.

669
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,360
My, my Tourette's is heads its
ups and downs.

670
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,520
It's evolved a lot since I was
younger.

671
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,120
It used to be a lot worse.
But now my verbal tics are like

672
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,760
back to the beginning where my
verbal tics were worse than my

673
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,000
physical tics or motor tics, as
they're called.

674
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,200
So it takes a toll on me.
So, but, but it's funny, like

675
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,640
you said, you know, when working
in the industry, when working on

676
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,840
sets, my Tourette's just goes
away.

677
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,480
Like I'm able to control it.
Really.

678
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,520
Very well.
Why do you think that is?

679
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,680
It's just a common thing with
people with Tourette's syndrome

680
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:29,120
that when they focus on
something and they're honed in

681
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,600
on something, they're Tourette's
goes away or, or it dies down,

682
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,360
so to speak.
I have intense, well, not really

683
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,280
now I'm almost 42, but I think
most of my life, you know,

684
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,040
everyone well, thank you.
Today I'm looking pretty young,

685
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,600
but it depends on the day, you
know, it depends on the day,

686
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,160
yeah.
I'd say for, I'd say more than

687
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,400
half my life I've had like very
insane, like food cravings,

688
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,280
'cause, you know, I, I, I go by
the belief that all humans are

689
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,760
addicts.
So you want to pick the

690
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440
addiction that's like the most
beneficial, like healthy

691
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,480
addictions rather than the
unhealthy ones, and that those

692
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,480
healthy addictions can kind of
crowd out bad ones.

693
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,000
But I would say, you know, for
years of my life, I had bad food

694
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,600
cravings.
You know, people disappointed

695
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,080
me.
I'd want to go get, you know,

696
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200
ice cream with sprinkles.
That's just like a thing.

697
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,560
It's like it, it sounds silly,
but what went on a film set and

698
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,640
doing that with things I love
creatively.

699
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,600
I don't think about, you know,
ice cream with sprinkles.

700
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,280
I don't think about having any
bread with butter.

701
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,600
I, I don't, I just think about
the process and who I'm with and

702
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,560
helping them or getting the
shot.

703
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,440
I, I really don't even think
about food at all.

704
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,880
It's very.
Funny you said that, that

705
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,960
everyone's an addict because
there's a great quote on a

706
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,680
trailer for Trainspotting, too.
I'm going to send it your way.

707
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,360
It's like you're an addict.
So be addicted, but be addicted

708
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,040
to the good things, Family,
friends, what you're passionate

709
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,480
about.
Like, like it's like, it's

710
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,960
almost like, yeah, healthy
addictions.

711
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,040
Right.
But I mean, you know, the brain,

712
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,120
it's wired a certain way.
So you would do something.

713
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,920
Let's say you have a food at
5:00 today.

714
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,920
There's a very high chance
you're going to create that same

715
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,840
food at 5:00 the next day.
So you can wire yourself in a

716
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,640
way that's going to set you up
for a good life or a crappy

717
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,240
life.
But anyway, back to you.

718
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:11,360
I want to ask you some
questions.

719
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:16,000
Now, people often fantasize
about the film industry or some

720
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,800
type of job or, you know, a
woman or a man and they put it

721
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,120
on a pedal steel and they think,
oh, I'm going to work in the

722
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,080
entertainment industry and it's
going to be like this.

723
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,040
So what fantasies did you have?
And like, how are things

724
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,120
different now that you're
actually working in the

725
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,520
industry?
So since I was five years old,

726
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,400
I, I love cinema, like like
specifically horror, but I

727
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:45,960
expanded as I got older and I
always like other things like

728
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,800
archaeological stuff like
paleontology when I was younger.

729
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,360
But like, it's never something I
could see myself doing as as a

730
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
profession.
Over the years, I developed a

731
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160
passion and a dream to be a
director.

732
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,240
And I know that I've directed a
few short films when I was in

733
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:06,680
college or when I was done with
college, I went to school visual

734
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,400
arts in New York City and I did
a few short films and I got a

735
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,560
taste of what it was like.
And I have a number.

736
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,320
And over the years, you know,
even before I got into the

737
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560
industry, which is just in the
last several years, I've had a

738
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,560
lot of friends in the industry
for the last, like I'd say 15

739
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,440
years or so.
And and I'm blessed because a

740
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,800
lot of them have become close
friends of mine, some of which

741
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,600
because of the Tourettes,
because it's a conversation

742
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,160
starter, because it connects
people.

743
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,040
And like, oh, I have a cousin
who has Tourettes.

744
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,680
I have a friend who I went to
school with the friend of his

745
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,320
Tourettes.
Like even some of the Terminator

746
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,160
cast I connected with because of
my Tourettes.

747
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,880
Like one had a friend she put me
in touch with who hopefully can

748
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,840
help me with my Tourettes.
Or Schwarzenegger stunt double

749
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,240
told me about a friend of his
restaurants.

750
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,600
We sat at the bar Saturday night
and just chilled and spoke, you

751
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,040
know, you know, and it's like,
you know, Tourette's is a

752
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,120
conversation starter and it
connects me with a lot of

753
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,800
people.
So I'm grateful for it as much

754
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,360
as it caused me pain.
But I also feel me as an

755
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,800
empathetic person.
But As for this film industry,

756
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,160
I've been wanting to work in the
film industry since I was young.

757
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,120
And only in the last few years
during COVID, I've officially

758
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,880
reached that point.
And it was all because I worked

759
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,080
on a pod.
I I hosted a podcast.

760
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Called the Indie called the
Indie Escape Network, or the

761
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,560
network is called The Indie
Escape Network.

762
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,160
And my podcast is called
Symbolistic Cynicism.

763
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,520
It's a play on my name and I met
a director in it named Cindy

764
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,600
Sanabria, who's great, who is
working on a film called Horror

765
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,880
Able and Horrible Women of a
documentaries about film makers

766
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,440
and actors with disabilities.
And we connected by I was

767
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,600
interviewing her and then
eventually she hired me to be

768
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,880
her editor and I wound up being
editor on both films because the

769
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,280
editors dropped out or they
couldn't do it before whatever

770
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,240
personal disability issues or
whatever.

771
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,200
And they weren't able.
They weren't able, Yeah.

772
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,520
And I took on the role and I
edited the short at first and

773
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,920
then she had an editor for the
feature.

774
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,600
Then the editor for the feature
dropped out.

775
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,000
So I took on the feature.
And that features one of my one,

776
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,920
I'm one I'm one of them projects
I'm most proud about because I

777
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,520
got to it went to a Film
Festival.

778
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,200
I edited the whole film in in a
even in a shorter amount of time

779
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,600
in the short film.
Horrible Women and I went to a

780
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,680
big Film Festival in Florida,
Spooky Empire, and I was honored

781
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,800
to be part of my first panel
with my director, Cindy, who's

782
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,680
directed the film.
I edited it and I'm very proud

783
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,080
of it.
Now it's on Amazon Prime.

784
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Very good.
I was going to ask you and the

785
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,880
name is called Horror Abel. 2
words Horror Abel and the are

786
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,440
able women the short which is is
which the feature also has

787
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,560
women, but this the short is
strictly women.

788
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,160
The short is on YouTube and the
feature is on Amazon Prime.

789
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,120
Well, all.
Right.

790
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,040
Nice, No?
Let's.

791
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:01,600
See, I just want to mention that
that opened up doors for me as

792
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,960
as I rest, like I got more jobs
in in the film industry after

793
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,440
that.
So it's like you get your foot

794
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,160
in the door.
Even though I knew a lot of

795
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,520
these celebrities prior to work
in the industry, now somebody

796
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:16,000
worked with me or want to work
with me or, or asked me to film

797
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,800
something.
So it was an honor.

798
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,840
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember a couple years

799
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,040
you were telling me about
working on this and then ever

800
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,800
since that it seems like you've
been really busy.

801
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,080
So that sounds, did you think
that this would open doors for

802
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,520
you?
Well.

803
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,280
You know, I've had a lot of odd
jobs and ongoing, ongoing

804
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,920
projects over the years, like
editing projects, which I got my

805
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,640
editing skills 20 years ago
before I even went to college.

806
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,560
So and I have done photography
and videography before that.

807
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:51,400
So I knew that working jobs
would open up more potential

808
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,840
possibilities for me and I, but
I didn't think like I get so

809
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,440
many like in a short term period
of time.

810
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,480
Yeah, I get so many small, like
even if they weren't like big

811
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,200
jobs, like it added up.
And now I have my, I have my

812
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,640
own, my IMDb page, which is, I
never would have thought a few

813
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,200
years ago that I'd have that so
soon, you know, even though I've

814
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,840
been doing this for years.
So yeah.

815
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,720
Nice.
I'm not surprised.

816
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,680
It makes sense.
It's it's cool and and really

817
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,840
happy for you it by the way.
You see yourself.

818
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,080
Oh, over there.
And the your poster's over

819
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,520
there.
Your movie poster Night's End is

820
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,520
right behind me.
Maybe.

821
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,880
Oh, I see.
I see a little bit.

822
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ha ha.

823
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,680
Put that out.
Oh, yeah.

824
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,040
All right.
So what would you say?

825
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,440
What's weren't you of the
coolest things that you worked

826
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,080
on?
So definitely horror.

827
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,800
Abel is definitely my most one.
I've worked in a number of

828
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,920
projects.
I have some upcoming ones I'm

829
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,960
very excited about, but I can't
say anything.

830
00:43:52,840 --> 00:44:00,280
OK, but I worked on I worked on
as a cameraman on a feature

831
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,920
short film by one of the stars
of the Nightmare in Elm St.

832
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,400
franchise.
He directed this film and he

833
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,600
hired me as a cameraman and he's
been praising me ever since.

834
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,240
He even praised me before like
he he found me very intriguing

835
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:14,960
and he's he's very he was very
excited to work with me.

836
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:19,480
And I worked as assistant camera
or a third cameraman on his film

837
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,760
and it and it it wound up in
film festivals all over the

838
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,720
world and wound up winning film
festivals all over the world,

839
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,760
which I'm honored to be part of
that.

840
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,440
And I also, even when I was in
LA and my friend, my friend

841
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,840
asked me to be in involved in a
horror film and I wound up be

842
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,200
doing the BTS on the upcoming
Boop R film, the Betty Boop R.

843
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,680
Now that the whole domain, you
have the Mickey Mouse, you have

844
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,440
the, you have the top eye, you
have the Winnie the Pooh, all

845
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,400
these hard public domain horror
films.

846
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,000
So I got to work as a BTS
photographer and videographer on

847
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000
the Winnie the Pooh, sorry, on
the Betty Boop horror film.

848
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,440
And also I mentioned, you know,
that I knew these directors and

849
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,520
people, these film makers and
actors all before I got into the

850
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,360
industry.
I actually, when I was in Lai,

851
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,400
also my one of my favorite film
makers, one of the soft film

852
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,240
makers actually asked me to film
his podcast.

853
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,480
And that was like a dream come
true.

854
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,240
That was one of the best days of
my life, not because I got to

855
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,960
film a podcast, but because it
was one of my favorite film

856
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,360
makers that I've been dreaming
to work with, to ask me to work

857
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,440
with him and another one of my
favorite film makers on their on

858
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,320
their podcast.
And that was an honor.

859
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,960
How's your dream come true?
Well, you know what I don't

860
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,120
know?
I've known you for maybe over 10

861
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,200
years, I want to say. 12 years
almost.

862
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,640
And I think you're pretty
trustworthy and you know, you,

863
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,760
you, you care.
You seem to have like a pretty

864
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,960
strong commitment like me to
like want to do the right thing.

865
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,400
And obviously you followed
through a bunch of times.

866
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120
So one thing like both my
parents taught me from like a

867
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,880
young age is, you know, sure you
want to have the skills, people

868
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,160
want to work with you if you
have, you know, certain skills

869
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,200
or connections, questions that
they need, sure.

870
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,520
But people including myself,
when I'm looking for people to

871
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,120
include on things, they want to
work with someone that they can

872
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,320
trust or people that they have a
good character.

873
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,760
So I'm sure people met you and
are like, OK, he obviously has

874
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,680
the editing skills, he obviously
has the camera skills.

875
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,720
He obviously knows like
everything about film, right?

876
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:20,920
Maybe not everything but you.
I also know it so.

877
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,320
Much I have a good.
But you also have a character.

878
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,400
Yes.
I am.

879
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,800
I am.
And I am a character, right?

880
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,800
Yeah.
Yeah, but you know, you try

881
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,040
really hard to do the right
thing.

882
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,800
Yeah, I, I have a good sense of
humor.

883
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,160
I've been told on sets that I
bring a lot of energy, good

884
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,520
energy to the sets, OK, from
people I had just met that I I

885
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,680
get that morale going.
So yeah, it actually you came to

886
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,160
the Film Festival that I think,
I don't know if I was.

887
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,240
No, I wasn't hosting.
I was hosting shows there, but I

888
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,080
wasn't hosting the whole event
that time.

889
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,000
No event was.
But whatever, it doesn't matter.

890
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,880
But I was hosting a lot of stuff
and there's.

891
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,120
To the actual host show like the
the.

892
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,640
Yeah, I don't.
I don't even remember one year I

893
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,480
hosted 1.
Where where like you did the

894
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,840
scream thing.
Yes, and you came and you really

895
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,840
helped out with filming, but
also there was like a lot of

896
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,720
moving parts and one of the cast
members even got kicked out.

897
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:16,000
He was so problematic.
He got my cast member got kicked

898
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:16,400
out.
I think he.

899
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,080
Got kicked out twice.
Got left out there or something

900
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,040
and someone else brought an
actual knife.

901
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,600
The guy playing Mike Myers
didn't bring a fake knife.

902
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:27,000
He bought an actual like like a
fake knife.

903
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,480
And I'm like, you can't wait.
What?

904
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,600
So there was mayhem, but you
were very supportive.

905
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,080
It's not rubber.
Yeah.

906
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,440
Whoa.
It was real.

907
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,280
And I'm like, you can't.
What the hell?

908
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,200
Yeah, I know this is what
happens when you test people who

909
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,440
aren't actors, but you were very
supportive, and I really needed

910
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,080
support that day.
Yeah.

911
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,520
Yeah, when somebody listen, I've
I've done my fair share of

912
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640
mistakes in my life and said
stupid things.

913
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,440
But but, but The thing is, is
that when it comes to at the end

914
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,080
of the day, I care about my
friends and I worry about them

915
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,800
and I want I want them to be
feel safe and it like it.

916
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,880
And like, if I ever made anybody
feel unsafe, I would be kicking

917
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,360
myself for years, you know?
Right, right, right, right.

918
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,200
I'm trying to think if I've ever
made anyone feel unsafe.

919
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,840
I feel like I should make more
people feel unsafe to be honest

920
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,200
with you.
Yeah, I was going to say I'm

921
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,280
surprised you don't.
I.

922
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,760
You're pretty tough.
You're pretty tough, Jen.

923
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,800
Really.
I don't know.

924
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,080
I think you're tough.
Yeah, I wouldn't.

925
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,600
Want to mess with you?
Yeah, No, no, no, no.

926
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,440
I I had to calculate a long time
ago around the time we first met

927
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,840
because someone really was going
after me.

928
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,480
And it's happened since then.
But I, I really calculated.

929
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,440
I was really afraid.
I was, I was actually caught my

930
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,640
I actually caught myself doing
what the phrase is sleeping with

931
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,760
one eye open.
I caught myself actually like

932
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,560
having one eye open at one point
because I was so afraid this guy

933
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,400
was going to come through my
ground floor apartment window

934
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,240
and like kidnap me to make the
things come true.

935
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,320
So I calculated, okay, this guy
really did like come after me.

936
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,360
I'm like, I figured out it would
really be like Kazakhstan going

937
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,360
against the US and China and
Russia and it, it would be no

938
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,440
problem.
So you know, whatever.

939
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,720
But anyway, back to you now the
surprises in filmmaking.

940
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,240
I feel like filmmaking for me,
even recording interviews today

941
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:27,040
that's full of surprises.
I had surprises on my last

942
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,840
interview.
Things that never happened.

943
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,800
What are some unexpected things
that have happened on the film

944
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,840
set or post production?
Pre production?

945
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,600
Well, weather is definitely one,
I mean, but that's not

946
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,960
expecting, you know, just bad
weather.

947
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,040
Sure.
I won't say unsuspecting.

948
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,200
I'd say like unfortunate or, or,
or like, or like, like things

949
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,800
that went went wrong or things
that were just disappointing.

950
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,120
But that happens with all sets.
Like I know sometimes like

951
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,120
cameras are have have issues.
So I have to constant like so I

952
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,080
have to constantly like if I,
let's say I'm running three

953
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,680
cameras and one of them heats up
too much and they're not mine,

954
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,240
but like, like it was heating up
too much, I have to turn it off

955
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:15,280
and let it cool off.
And then so I have to like,

956
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,280
'cause let's say a video was
going to be multi cams where we

957
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,520
shoot with multiple cameras.
Then we edit it together and

958
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,600
'cause we time it and we edit it
together and cut, cut it

959
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,480
together.
So it could cut from different

960
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,920
angle to different angle.
And but then we lose an angle

961
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,440
because the camera is hot or the
camera's having issues or

962
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,960
there's, sometimes there's drama
with people on set.

963
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,360
You know, you sometimes you have
that and you've, you've seen it

964
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,440
in big productions like with
Christian Bale and and other and

965
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,480
other celebrities.
You know, it, it happens.

966
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,920
Sometimes there's drama on set.
What kind of drama can you tell

967
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,440
us?
Can you tell us any story?

968
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,800
I'd rather not because it's it's
it's it's for a project that I

969
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,560
worked on.
That's not that.

970
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:11,040
It's not my place to say, OK,
OK, so but, but, but everything

971
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,560
worked out in the end.
That's all that mattered.

972
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,480
The production was completed and
everything worked out.

973
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:21,040
That's all that matters.
And and the film is hopefully is

974
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,760
coming out this year.
I just, I was looking forward to

975
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,840
that.
It was an honor to be part of

976
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,640
and listen.
Like even in the horror

977
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,640
convention world or New York
Film Festival or the OR the Film

978
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,200
Festival world, there's always
going to be drama or.

979
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,400
Yeah.
Patches you hit listen there,

980
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,080
there's a lot of productions
that run short on not not that

981
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,320
I've run.
Well, sort of maybe we're

982
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:55,880
showing short on funds and and
we things had to be squeezed out

983
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,360
or like I had to take a pay cut,
you know, to or not no pay at

984
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,880
all, just so the production
could could watch its budget.

985
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,240
And I offered to help out and
take a roll for free, you know,

986
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,240
and that doesn't always happen.
It has happened, but it's

987
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:14,560
unfortunate.
But you know what?

988
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,200
If I could get my names in
there, my name in there, it's

989
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,400
worth a day or two of work, you
know?

990
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,560
Yeah, I always ask about what
goes wrong and what goes right.

991
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,520
Sure, it could be interesting,
you know, for listeners gossip,

992
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,600
you know, but I'm not really the
TMZ type.

993
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,920
I'm more of like, let's diagnose
the problem and prevent

994
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,200
problems.
Like like along came Polly, the

995
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,120
the risk analysis, assessment
analysis.

996
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,880
So that's really why I ask.
It's 'cause if you know what

997
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,520
went wrong on this set, you can
go oh, OK.

998
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,880
Like, you know, let's say Co
stars are dating.

999
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,400
That can often end in a bad way.
Maybe you don't want to do that

1000
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,840
or, you know, maybe you're
having meetings and there's a

1001
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,680
lot of drinking involved.
That's a lot of you.

1002
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,440
Know it's very funny you said
all this because I just watched

1003
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,760
a video yesterday about Queen of
the damned Thalia that came and

1004
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,880
that she died when when it's
waking out and that the director

1005
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,320
was up to the third act and like
or like like the red director

1006
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,120
didn't only feel like 2/3 of the
movie and he was running low on

1007
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,800
funds like that.
He had to bring his own funds.

1008
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,480
The actors had to put in their
own funds like they were

1009
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,200
squeezing themselves out for
everything just to get the film

1010
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,560
done.
Like it was like like a third of

1011
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,280
the film or the finale or
whatever the climax, like every

1012
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,960
like they they were working
their off like and spending so

1013
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,520
much of their own money just to
get the film that they put so

1014
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,840
much into completed.
And that happens sometimes.

1015
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,400
Listen, even this first soft
film, the producers and

1016
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,640
directors, what whichever I I
forget, put put like put all

1017
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,560
their own money into the film
and like put in everything they

1018
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,600
had.
And now it's like a billion

1019
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,440
dollar box office hit like
franchise, you know, right?

1020
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,480
Right, right.
You never know.

1021
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,760
But like, and there was a lot of
problems in productions and some

1022
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,720
of the soft films like just
getting things done and

1023
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:11,720
completed and disagreements.
Like it just, it just happens

1024
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:13,480
sometimes.
But it's worth the investment

1025
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,480
for a lot of people.
Sometimes it's not.

1026
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,680
But for the people I know, it
has been worth the investment.

1027
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,680
Right, right.
Well, maybe it was coincidence

1028
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,880
that the saw creators invested
or maybe something they had a

1029
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,800
good instinct because part of
success at life, you know, in

1030
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,280
health if anything, is knowing
when to double down, when to

1031
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,760
keep investing in this food,
this film, this actor, and then

1032
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,360
to pull out everything.
To saw first saw film, but the

1033
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:41,840
ending.
Is.

1034
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,400
I think I did.
So the ending is one of the

1035
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,400
biggest greatest rated one of
the greatest twist endings of

1036
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:52,040
all time in cinema.
So I think that ending is what

1037
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,760
got people to fall in love with
it and burst the sequels, which

1038
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,920
six more sequels over the course
of the next six years or seven

1039
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:03,360
years and then more sequels
later on in the in the in the

1040
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,920
long run.
And yeah, it's it's become one

1041
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,240
of the most successful horror
franchises of all time.

1042
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Yeah, I actually like, felt
physical pain while watching it

1043
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,160
'cause it was just the way it
was done and shot.

1044
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,960
It was very scary and I felt
like things were happening.

1045
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,280
Yeah, there's a lot of
fast-paced editing and the soft

1046
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,580
phones which I enjoy, but I what
I love about it most is the non

1047
00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:28,560
linear storytelling and the
twists.

1048
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,520
It's very cool storytelling.
Interesting.

1049
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,000
So it wasn't like someone being
like thrown into a meat grinder,

1050
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,960
that was.
No, no, no, there was definitely

1051
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,200
some meat being thrown into a
into a pum pit of needles,

1052
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,160
that's for sure.
The meat grinder thing,

1053
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,080
definitely similar things.
I wouldn't say a meat grinder

1054
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,080
that the meat grinder thing was
more Texas Chainsaw 3D.

1055
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,000
That was my friend Dan Yeager
played Leatherface in that, but

1056
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,720
I'm just looking at the poster
of him.

1057
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,520
But yeah, he he chases somebody
and write it and cuts off their

1058
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,040
hand and they fall right into a
meat grinder.

1059
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,160
But I wouldn't.
I don't think there's a meat

1060
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,320
grinder in saw, but there's
definitely grinder.

1061
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,040
Yeah, there's like some pigs.
There's like a bunch.

1062
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,800
It's the thing that all the.
Pigs.

1063
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,760
The pigs grinder and it cuts up
the pig.

1064
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,440
The dead pigs and it drowns the
guy.

1065
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,160
Yeah, yeah, there's something
like that.

1066
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,800
I don't know, it is gross.
But anyway, you know, I like

1067
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,600
Caddyshack.
I I like stuff like that, you

1068
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,360
know?
Yeah, I like to laugh.

1069
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:31,120
I don't want to see anyone hurt
in real life at all, even if I

1070
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,560
don't really like them.
If I real like a little bit of

1071
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,640
blood in real life then I do in
the car movies with the gore.

1072
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,560
Interesting.
Anyway, game so let's say.

1073
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,200
Somebody has my family hit their
head?

1074
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,440
We got an end game.
I'm sorry, we got it.

1075
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,640
We got to cut it and call it
off.

1076
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,560
Sorry, we are way over the time
limit.

1077
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,120
And listen, I'd have you here
for a few more minutes, but I

1078
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,720
got someone waiting and Mark
Torres says I have to keep these

1079
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:55,600
interviews to 20 minutes or less
and we are over 20 minutes.

1080
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,800
So on that note, Gabe, tell us
where to find you.

1081
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,960
Find me on Instagram at Gabriel
symbols 2 that's GABRIELSCY MB A

1082
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,880
LS2 at Gmail.
Sorry I'm talking about my Gmail

1083
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,720
that's my Instagram.
My Facebook is Gabe symbolista

1084
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:17,120
spelled GY MB A/B ALISTA.
That's Cy MB ALISDA, the first

1085
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,480
name Gabriel.
I don't think you need help

1086
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,640
spelling that My Twitter, I
don't really use much.

1087
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,320
My TikTok is Gabe symbols or
Gabe symbolist.

1088
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,800
I'm not sure, but you could
pretty much figure that out.

1089
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,360
And yeah, I don't really use
Snapchat much, but sometimes.

1090
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,360
But yeah, I, I, I'm a social
media whore, I'll admit it.

1091
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,560
So so I post a lot, but I like
to entertain people.

1092
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,440
I have friends who just love
watching my stuff online and get

1093
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,680
get some through the day so.
Well, look him up.

1094
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,600
I'm sure Gabe will be up to some
really interesting things this

1095
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,480
year and next year and probably
the year after that.

1096
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,720
And on that note, back to the
studio with Mark Torres for

1097
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,160
more.
It came from the radio.

1098
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:11,400
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1099
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:21,920
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1100
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,280
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1101
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,240
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1102
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,640
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1103
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1104
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1105
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1107
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1108
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,040
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1109
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,440
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1110
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,040
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1111
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,160
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1112
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:56,080
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1113
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,000
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